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Originally posted by kDeviL
Roflstomping everybody 1v1

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hence the no "dueling" function.

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I think comparing it to Planetside is a little unfair, since PS is 100% about PvP, FPS, and base capture.  GW2 has to be an RPG and have PvE, so given that it has amazingly engaging combat and PvP..

But I was definitely disappointed with the WoW-battlegrounds-like WvW in GW2.  I really was imagining something more like Planetside.  I think I got some videos of Archeage confused with GW2 so I had high expectations going into beta weekend.

My 2h mace warrior decimated thief players in pvp, I was kinda worried they were underpowered to be honest. Mostly because when they go stealthed you just pull out an aoe stun, and then do some aoe snare and damage moves and the basically came out slowed and low on hp cause they thought stealth meant immune to damage and cc. 

Still loved the game, awesome fun pvp. 

Originally posted by synn
They need to add a buff like minstrels from daoc had :D

this is what hapens when you talk about minstrels in GW2 forum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n0i9lqdk4g

Originally posted by Rollcage8

My 2h mace warrior decimated thief players in pvp, I was kinda worried they were underpowered to be honest. Mostly because when they go stealthed you just pull out an aoe stun, and then do some aoe snare and damage moves and the basically came out slowed and low on hp cause they thought stealth meant immune to damage and cc. 

Still loved the game, awesome fun pvp. 

In their defense, Thief is actually not an easy class to understand. It's easy to spam and spread strikes all over, but it does require a further comprehension of skills to be really efficient. For example, I'm pretty sure half of the Thieves weren't aware of the first skill slot changing when you're stealthed (with dagger, it is backstab, doing 10 times more damage than a regular hit), and that you got 50% crit chance too.

Originally posted by ShakyMo
It's good, but sorry its not as good as daoc / planetside.

Why?
Scale, not as much of it
Annominity, that plain sucks, good enemies are as important as good friends
Persistence, the server shuffle should be for emergency use if things get too imbalanced, not done as a matter of course every 2 weeks regardless, as again good enemies are important
Distraction, neither daoc or planetside had e"sports" for players to go hide in if rvr wasn't going their way
Purpose, needs some sort of darkness falls type reward in my opinion.

That said best game for pvp since those 2 and eve hands down.

Nothign cna beat DAOC really. It will always be at the top.

Did not play beta, but played Darkfall for years and I doubt GW2 will beat the 200v200+ persistant battles I've seen in an FPS MMO style... Or the 50v200+ Battles... haha. Nonetheless, GW gives me the most fun out of any MMO

Originally posted by ShakyMo
It's good, but sorry its not as good as daoc / planetside.

Why?
Scale, not as much of it
Annominity, that plain sucks, good enemies are as important as good friends
Persistence, the server shuffle should be for emergency use if things get too imbalanced, not done as a matter of course every 2 weeks regardless, as again good enemies are important
Distraction, neither daoc or planetside had e"sports" for players to go hide in if rvr wasn't going their way
Purpose, needs some sort of darkness falls type reward in my opinion.

That said best game for pvp since those 2 and eve hands down.

I played DAOC recently. I think you have a serious case of rosy glasses.

Here is my quick write up of DAOC.

"If you are spoiled by modern games you will probably dislike DAOC.

I downloaded the game to give it a try. The UI is terrible by modern standards. It was painful to use. Tab targeting is only short range. So you have to click to target on enemies in PvP. The game does a stutter when strafing and turning at the same time.

In RvR players warp all over the place. It is also possible to be one shot if you get hit by a crit. Even if you don't it is quite common to be two shot. The cc is ridiculous IMO. You can get snared or mezzed for close to a minute.

Buying stuff is also painful. It makes SWTOR's auction house look amazing in comparison.

But don't take my word for it. Grab the 14 day trial and see for yourself."

I found GW2 superior to DAOC in every way. I would wager anybody going to play DAOC after playing GW2 WvWvW would have a hard time getting into it.

Originally posted by ShakyMo
It's good, but sorry its not as good as daoc / planetside.

Why?
Scale, not as much of it
Annominity, that plain sucks, good enemies are as important as good friends
Persistence, the server shuffle should be for emergency use if things get too imbalanced, not done as a matter of course every 2 weeks regardless, as again good enemies are important
Distraction, neither daoc or planetside had e"sports" for players to go hide in if rvr wasn't going their way
Purpose, needs some sort of darkness falls type reward in my opinion.

That said best game for pvp since those 2 and eve hands down.

DAOC has anonymity aswell yet you praise DAOC and criticize guild wars 2...strange. when DAOC and planetside were released esports was not as big as it is today.

overpowered....underpowered... Here is what I noticed after a lot of pvp in gw2 this weekend. Every class is overpowered in the hands of a player who is good with that class. You stomped everyone 1v1 with a thief, yet many felt thieves were underpowered.

You will find people thinking every class is OP either because they play it really well or because they went up against someone who played really well.

I do have to agree I found the pvp to be phenomenal. We will see if it holds up to the test of time

p.s. DaoC players, imho, have a lot of nostalgia and fond memories of their game. First love syndrome. For many, no game can surpass it. That doesn't mean that it was a better game, just that it was their first that captured their heart. That is okay. I feel bad for the ones who don't open themselves up to new experiences, because they could be missing recapturing those feelings in a different way with a different game