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  Honner

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4/29/12 7:38:25 PM#61
Originally posted by Ulorik

For me this Beta weekend had been an absolute desaster. Out of two days trying to get into the game I have managed to actually play for a full hour, and that happened to be at 4am this morning.

The forums are full of people suffering a wide variety of technical problems. In other betas you may have had 2 or 3 main technical problems which the dev team can concentrate on, here there seem to be dozens of different problems going on at the same time.

Technically this game is not even at an acceptable beta stage and I regret having given Anet my money already now as the inability of the tech team to deal with all those problems does not bode well for release.

Bad luck I have been playing all the weekend and I haven't experienced a single crash...

  Xthos

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4/29/12 7:39:08 PM#62

I played this weekend, had one patch of time I could not log in, no problems the other times.  I have a decent cpu, but my gfx card is a little dated, so I played the game on 'balanced' I think it was called and I had zero lag (did not do the WvWvW, probably would of there?).

 

I do wish I could pull the camara off of my guy more, I am closer than I usually like to play, do not know if their is a setting that will allow it...I didn't do a ton of looking, just some basic remapping.

 

I didn't bother to push the graphics, given they released a statement about expect lag, so when it is closer to launch, I will see where I can go with my GTS 450...But on balanced and 1920x1080, I didn't lag, so I was suprised, given their statement.

 

Game is a little different, not sure I like the targeting, but they have where you can take that off, and my pet as a ranger was like insta dead much of the time, I just ignored him till fights were over, sometimes I could save him, but my heal was pretty slow, given how fast he goes down.

 

Its beta, none of this you get to keep, and like it or not it may be 3+ months till release, i'd say atleast 2...So we got a long time to go and a lot of patching/tweaking....If everyone is having all these problems a month out, i'd say get to worrying, as the last month should be polish, not hoping for the miracle patch that everyone talks about, and never comes.

 

  Xthos

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4/29/12 7:40:01 PM#63
Originally posted by Honner
Originally posted by Ulorik

For me this Beta weekend had been an absolute desaster. Out of two days trying to get into the game I have managed to actually play for a full hour, and that happened to be at 4am this morning.

The forums are full of people suffering a wide variety of technical problems. In other betas you may have had 2 or 3 main technical problems which the dev team can concentrate on, here there seem to be dozens of different problems going on at the same time.

Technically this game is not even at an acceptable beta stage and I regret having given Anet my money already now as the inability of the tech team to deal with all those problems does not bode well for release.

Bad luck I have been playing all the weekend and I haven't experienced a single crash...

 Me too, but to be fair, I only played for 4-5 hours...

  Amjoco

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4/29/12 7:41:30 PM#64
Originally posted by Illyssia
Beta access is one of the selling points of pre-purchase game.  I think you expect to be wowed  by the beta, and fact is a bunch of folk just feel ripped off by the hype.

That is just plain silly. Only a fool would expect to enter a first BWE and be wowed. Can you please reference where a majority of peope got together and said I'm going to join the GW2 beta and expect to be "wowed"? 

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  Theocritus

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4/29/12 7:42:49 PM#65
Originally posted by Honner
Originally posted by zaylin
Originally posted by strangepower

I did not pay for the beta, it was extra, I paid for a game.

If you bought it for the beta... well.


enough said


here is the answer

          Im not sure if its any wiser to buy a game most know little or nothing about......I also understand where the OP is coming from as it is a bad trend for people to buy their way into betas with preorders......Apparently many gamers have alot more money than sense.

  Amjoco

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4/29/12 7:44:31 PM#66
Originally posted by Honner
Originally posted by Ulorik

For me this Beta weekend had been an absolute desaster. Out of two days trying to get into the game I have managed to actually play for a full hour, and that happened to be at 4am this morning.

The forums are full of people suffering a wide variety of technical problems. In other betas you may have had 2 or 3 main technical problems which the dev team can concentrate on, here there seem to be dozens of different problems going on at the same time.

Technically this game is not even at an acceptable beta stage and I regret having given Anet my money already now as the inability of the tech team to deal with all those problems does not bode well for release.

Bad luck I have been playing all the weekend and I haven't experienced a single crash...

I played 8 hours yesterday and about the same today with no problems at all! The first night I did get lag but Saturday I got on and it was smoothe sailing. And for all you Tera fans I play both. 

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  adam_nox

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4/29/12 9:02:29 PM#67
Originally posted by ELE3551
And in the end it's only sixty fuckin dollars. You waste that going to see one movie nowadays.


wow I don't know where you see your movies, but it's under 10 dollars a person where I go.  Unless it's 3D, then it's a couple bucks more.  I hope you aren't buying a bunch of junkfood there, that's just not smart.

  Eir_S

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GW2 socialist.

4/29/12 9:08:20 PM#68
The technical problems have decreased almost universally since Friday, which impressed me.  I don't mind paying for something that will help get this amazing game into my hands sooner.  I had fun with my friends and we helped to improve a product we purchased.  If you didn't, that's a shame.
  Loke666

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4/29/12 9:17:55 PM#69

I decided that I would buy the game 5 years ago when it was first mentioned. I bought it as soon as I could, if they wouldn´t have offer the beta as part of the perorder I might have waited a few weeks but it really had little to do with my decision to purchase the game as soon as possible.

My buddie and old GW1 guldie have also bought it even though he knew that he would be in Asia for 6 weeks and would miss this weeken and the next as well.

We really liked the first game so buying the sequel was a no brainer then. And I thought the game was good, ´cept the login problems this friday, but I actually expected it to be worse this weekend. 

I did not pay to play the beta, I paid for GW2 and I will get it as soon as it is released. I knew what I was buying (more or less at least) so I don't see the problem.

I still play GW, best investment in a game I ever made.

  Loke666

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4/29/12 9:19:58 PM#70
Originally posted by adam_nox
Originally posted by ELE3551
And in the end it's only sixty fuckin dollars. You waste that going to see one movie nowadays.


wow I don't know where you see your movies, but it's under 10 dollars a person where I go.  Unless it's 3D, then it's a couple bucks more.  I hope you aren't buying a bunch of junkfood there, that's just not smart.

It is 15 bucks here for most movies, but yeah, even with a large popcorn and a coke it is still 3 movies, not one.

Still not that much money though.

  waynejr2

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4/29/12 9:22:48 PM#71
Originally posted by stringboi

I believe all the people with problems are in the minority.....either bad PCs or ISPs.   Just because your having a problem doesnt mean this is their fault.  I havnt had a single issue except when the servers actually went down to do an update or restart.  

Stop blaming other for your mistakes,  NEVER lay out money for something that you wont put your own foot in your mouth for if things dont work out for you. 

 

The voting of GW2  is still at 8.75 on the games underdevelopment on mmorpg.com.  If so many people were having problems, it should have dropped a ton.

  Quesa

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4/29/12 9:24:20 PM#72
The amount of dumb in this thread is amazing.
  Talin

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4/29/12 9:26:31 PM#73
Originally posted by Ulorik

For me this Beta weekend had been an absolute desaster. Out of two days trying to get into the game I have managed to actually play for a full hour, and that happened to be at 4am this morning.

The forums are full of people suffering a wide variety of technical problems. In other betas you may have had 2 or 3 main technical problems which the dev team can concentrate on, here there seem to be dozens of different problems going on at the same time.

Technically this game is not even at an acceptable beta stage and I regret having given Anet my money already now as the inability of the tech team to deal with all those problems does not bode well for release.


Welcome to beta testing, perhaps you weren't paying attention when they said it was in BETA?

There are issues that I'm sure ANet know about that aren't fixed yet, and there are other issues that would only manifest with player load across the servers. This perception of "the game isn't nearly polished enough" in beta is completely backwards.

If you don't want to contribute to testing, don't log in during beta. I'm not sure what else to tell you.

  WoW_Refugee

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4/29/12 9:26:36 PM#74

The OP is one of Blizzard's paid shills out to brew up a riot on the message boards of yet another competing game.

That, or he's just stupendously unintelligent.

  Quizzical

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4/29/12 9:34:43 PM#75
I usually think it's acceptable when companies let people pay for stuff that doesn't give them any in-game advantage.  Think of it as an early piece of fluff in the game's item mall.  It's more revenue for the game company (because some people will buy the game now who wouldn't later if they couldn't before release) at no cost to me.
  stringboi

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4/29/12 9:59:06 PM#76
Originally posted by Quesa
The amount of dumb in this thread is amazing.


Mmhm

  atziluth

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4/29/12 10:08:02 PM#77
Originally posted by Ulorik

For me this Beta weekend had been an absolute desaster. Out of two days trying to get into the game I have managed to actually play for a full hour, and that happened to be at 4am this morning.

The forums are full of people suffering a wide variety of technical problems. In other betas you may have had 2 or 3 main technical problems which the dev team can concentrate on, here there seem to be dozens of different problems going on at the same time.

Technically this game is not even at an acceptable beta stage and I regret having given Anet my money already now as the inability of the tech team to deal with all those problems does not bode well for release.

Clearly you have not been in many betas. Sorry you had so many problems, but given that all but maybe three US servers were FULL by Sunday morning I would say the vast majority of players managed to log in and play. 

Now lets move on to "Pay to test our game"... This beta weekend and those to come are a "thanks" for buying the game. While some (Including myself) reported bugs... Most players do not. So the amount of "testing" other than hardware stress was minimal. Just because you feel entitled because you bought the game does not mean you are. The game will improve and on release if you continue to have the same issues... then you will have a reason to complain. 

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  just1opinion

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4/29/12 10:17:11 PM#78
Originally posted by DarkPony

Well, there have been warnings from people speaking their mind about the unknowns and people being very critical about this practice in general.

NDA + no release date set, yet asking for your money = there is a risk involved.

Fun fact: we still don't know most of those unknowns as we just got to play a little starter content.

Keep in mind that if further beta's still are just weekend events and STILL just starter content, i.e. when high level content is being kept under wraps until launch, that this equals a huge alarm bell going off.

 

Pony, with all due respect....what beta have you ever played in that let you play the ENTIRE game all the way to max level?  Because that just isn't going to happen here.  I can pretty well assure you of that.  They've already said they want some element of surprise (my word, not theirs) left for launch, so they are going to limit our access to some things.  I'm not even SURE that the Asura and Sylvari areas are unfinished.  I think they might actually just not be showing them so that SOMETHING is left to discover at launch.  Do you think that's a BAD thing?  I don't.  I don't want to play the whole game now while it's not optimized and it's in a beta state, no thank you.  I'm happy with just getting a "taste."  And I have no problem paying for a game and getting to do BWEs as a bonus perk.  I wasn't paying for the beta.....I was paying for the game.

 

Just one opinion, Pony.  You know I respect yours and understand what you're saying, but there's really two sides to that coin.

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  Adalwulff

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4/29/12 10:51:36 PM#79

I have played so many betas, never have I been wowed. Not once.

Every game has issues, many of them were worse than GW2.

We got at least 2 more months, if not longer, I dont see a problem.

  nyxxis

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4/29/12 11:47:13 PM#80

Are you kidding me? I love how there all tons of opinions by people, that most, do not have game development experiance then being in one or two open betas in the last 10 years. I actually saw someone say in this list of ignorance, "not in an acceptable state of beta." How many of you "expert" labradoodles actually provided real feedback? Then how many of those actually provided real feedback...you know more than "I gots the laggs and my sword swings funny!"?

I am not going to say everything was perfect because it wasn't, but lets be real here...IT IS IN TESTING!!!! Had this been release day I would understand all the hate and even be willing to forgive some the the stupidity running rampant. If you are not going to provide helpful fact based feedback then stay off the game.

As for the cash shop, nothing in it helps anyone get a real advantage over anyone else. Actually look at the items provided and the workings of the game before spewing dribble just because a game has one. Not even to mention the fact that you pay no sub so a cash shop helps keep them funded, ohh and no one is forcing you to use it.

No one payed to test the game, they payed for the game and got the benefit of being part of testing weekends. You want to know how I know not one person payed to test the game? I doubt there is one person that will just play the test weekends then uninstall on release day because testing is now over. If someone hates the game so badly they do not want to play after paying for the game will most likely do so long before the testing is over.

To all of you that are to ignorant to know what a beta is and vomit nonsense based on very little if any game development experiance, you are the reason that MMOs are not living up to their potential. Your loud mouthed chunks, of fiffy and below IQ, overpass grafitti level of "feedback" force developers to spit out piles of trash, to placate caveman brained, idiotmongers, because sadly its a large percentage of their player base.

How dare a game in beta testing not be up to par!!!

How dare it have issues and and bugs!!!

I just hope the dev team has the brains to see past the nonsense.

Now at the end of my rant I just have to remember that the same people complaining that their beta had bugs, are the same people that would blame the contractor if they slept in a building with no roof and they got rained on.

All Murlocs must die horrible, painful, bloody deaths!

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