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  MMOExposed

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OP  4/28/12 12:26:07 PM#1

WvW seem very lacking.

The Travel times are horrid, while at the same time its not rewarding. I can get way faster EXP from PvE than WvW per hour. its crazy.

I believe you need to get killing blow. and with issues already in place from the combat, it is very easy to die from zerging.

its not rewarding, and I feel this will have long lasting damage to WvW's appeal.

 

 

Most of my money I earn has to be spent in WvW just to repair Gear. this is a major issue.

  ebonized

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4/28/12 12:30:13 PM#2
Originally posted by MMOExposed

WvW seem very lacking.

The Travel times are horrid, while at the same time its not rewarding. I can get way faster EXP from PvE than WvW per hour. its crazy.

I believe you need to get killing blow. and with issues already in place from the combat, it is very easy to die from zerging.

its not rewarding, and I feel this will have long lasting damage to WvW's appeal.

 

 

Most of my money I earn has to be spent in WvW just to repair Gear. this is a major issue.


While you can do WvW at early levels, it just simply isn't really designed around it. I'm sure it gets better as you level up/acquire more gold/etc

  MMOExposed

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OP  4/28/12 12:33:14 PM#3
Originally posted by ebonized
Originally posted by MMOExposed

WvW seem very lacking.

The Travel times are horrid, while at the same time its not rewarding. I can get way faster EXP from PvE than WvW per hour. its crazy.

I believe you need to get killing blow. and with issues already in place from the combat, it is very easy to die from zerging.

its not rewarding, and I feel this will have long lasting damage to WvW's appeal.

 

 

Most of my money I earn has to be spent in WvW just to repair Gear. this is a major issue.


While you can do WvW at early levels, it just simply isn't really designed around it. I'm sure it gets better as you level up/acquire more gold/etc

Anet promised to make leveling via WvW a viable option. So this is no excuse.

  Cromica

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4/28/12 12:38:49 PM#4
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by ebonized
Originally posted by MMOExposed

WvW seem very lacking.

The Travel times are horrid, while at the same time its not rewarding. I can get way faster EXP from PvE than WvW per hour. its crazy.

I believe you need to get killing blow. and with issues already in place from the combat, it is very easy to die from zerging.

its not rewarding, and I feel this will have long lasting damage to WvW's appeal.

 

 

Most of my money I earn has to be spent in WvW just to repair Gear. this is a major issue.


While you can do WvW at early levels, it just simply isn't really designed around it. I'm sure it gets better as you level up/acquire more gold/etc

Anet promised to make leveling via WvW a viable option. So this is no excuse.

Can you still level in pvp? Yes you can. This game in not about getting to max level fast, so it works just fine IMO

  Excession

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4/28/12 12:39:20 PM#5
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by ebonized
Originally posted by MMOExposed

WvW seem very lacking.

The Travel times are horrid, while at the same time its not rewarding. I can get way faster EXP from PvE than WvW per hour. its crazy.

I believe you need to get killing blow. and with issues already in place from the combat, it is very easy to die from zerging.

its not rewarding, and I feel this will have long lasting damage to WvW's appeal.

 

 

Most of my money I earn has to be spent in WvW just to repair Gear. this is a major issue.


While you can do WvW at early levels, it just simply isn't really designed around it. I'm sure it gets better as you level up/acquire more gold/etc

Anet promised to make leveling via WvW a viable option. So this is no excuse.


In what way is it not viable? this is just the first BWE, the game has not launched.

Just because there is a lack of players in WvW now, does not mean that is how it will be all the time.

Personally, I would not expect to level the same in WvW as PVE anyway, as WvW is dependant on other players being there, and PVE is not.

A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.

  MMOExposed

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OP  4/28/12 12:44:41 PM#6
Originally posted by Byrhofen
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by ebonized
Originally posted by MMOExposed

WvW seem very lacking.

The Travel times are horrid, while at the same time its not rewarding. I can get way faster EXP from PvE than WvW per hour. its crazy.

I believe you need to get killing blow. and with issues already in place from the combat, it is very easy to die from zerging.

its not rewarding, and I feel this will have long lasting damage to WvW's appeal.

 

 

Most of my money I earn has to be spent in WvW just to repair Gear. this is a major issue.


While you can do WvW at early levels, it just simply isn't really designed around it. I'm sure it gets better as you level up/acquire more gold/etc

Anet promised to make leveling via WvW a viable option. So this is no excuse.


In what way is it not viable? this is just the first BWE, the game has not launched.

Just because there is a lack of players in WvW now, does not mean that is how it will be all the time.

Personally, I would not expect to level the same in WvW as PVE anyway, as WvW is dependant on other players being there, and PVE is not.


Being forced to Get Killing Blow just to get EXP from kills isnt good balance in design. its not Viable. simple as that.

  daniel!!!

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4/28/12 12:44:48 PM#7
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by ebonized
Originally posted by MMOExposed

WvW seem very lacking.

The Travel times are horrid, while at the same time its not rewarding. I can get way faster EXP from PvE than WvW per hour. its crazy.

I believe you need to get killing blow. and with issues already in place from the combat, it is very easy to die from zerging.

its not rewarding, and I feel this will have long lasting damage to WvW's appeal.

 

 

Most of my money I earn has to be spent in WvW just to repair Gear. this is a major issue.


While you can do WvW at early levels, it just simply isn't really designed around it. I'm sure it gets better as you level up/acquire more gold/etc

Anet promised to make leveling via WvW a viable option. So this is no excuse.

maybe your just bad at WvW ?  iv went in from the start on on character and absolutly destroyed it lol

  MMOExposed

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OP  4/28/12 12:45:32 PM#8
Originally posted by Cromica
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by ebonized
Originally posted by MMOExposed

WvW seem very lacking.

The Travel times are horrid, while at the same time its not rewarding. I can get way faster EXP from PvE than WvW per hour. its crazy.

I believe you need to get killing blow. and with issues already in place from the combat, it is very easy to die from zerging.

its not rewarding, and I feel this will have long lasting damage to WvW's appeal.

 

 

Most of my money I earn has to be spent in WvW just to repair Gear. this is a major issue.


While you can do WvW at early levels, it just simply isn't really designed around it. I'm sure it gets better as you level up/acquire more gold/etc

Anet promised to make leveling via WvW a viable option. So this is no excuse.

Can you still level in pvp? Yes you can. This game in not about getting to max level fast, so it works just fine IMO


Oh yes it is, since higher level characters get the best/most skills. Higher Level > Lower Level.

 

and Leveling isnt Viable in WvW.

  ebonized

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Posts: 61

4/28/12 12:50:45 PM#9
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by Byrhofen
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by ebonized
Originally posted by MMOExposed

WvW seem very lacking.

The Travel times are horrid, while at the same time its not rewarding. I can get way faster EXP from PvE than WvW per hour. its crazy.

I believe you need to get killing blow. and with issues already in place from the combat, it is very easy to die from zerging.

its not rewarding, and I feel this will have long lasting damage to WvW's appeal.

 

 

Most of my money I earn has to be spent in WvW just to repair Gear. this is a major issue.


While you can do WvW at early levels, it just simply isn't really designed around it. I'm sure it gets better as you level up/acquire more gold/etc

Anet promised to make leveling via WvW a viable option. So this is no excuse.


In what way is it not viable? this is just the first BWE, the game has not launched.

Just because there is a lack of players in WvW now, does not mean that is how it will be all the time.

Personally, I would not expect to level the same in WvW as PVE anyway, as WvW is dependant on other players being there, and PVE is not.


Being forced to Get Killing Blow just to get EXP from kills isnt good balance in design. its not Viable. simple as that.


I agree. So report it, make a suggestion, try to improve the game before launch. That's why you're playing the beta, right? It's not a demo

  Master10K

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4/28/12 12:52:08 PM#10

I'm not sure I agree with the whole killing blow thing you mentioned, because it seems you just have to deal a substantial amount of damage to your foe, in order gain XP & loot from a player (not an actual killing blow). I just think it needs to be balanced better, so that it is easier to pass the threshold to qualify for loot & XP from defeating a foe. Right now it doesn't feel as rewarding as PvE, but I find it more enjoyable than PvE (when it's open skirmishes & not Gate Wars 2).

 

My Level 5 Engineer entered WvW earlier today and now she's Level 8. Hasn't left yet. ^_^

  waynejr2

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4/28/12 12:53:39 PM#11
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by Byrhofen
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by ebonized
Originally posted by MMOExposed

WvW seem very lacking.

The Travel times are horrid, while at the same time its not rewarding. I can get way faster EXP from PvE than WvW per hour. its crazy.

I believe you need to get killing blow. and with issues already in place from the combat, it is very easy to die from zerging.

its not rewarding, and I feel this will have long lasting damage to WvW's appeal.

 

 

Most of my money I earn has to be spent in WvW just to repair Gear. this is a major issue.


While you can do WvW at early levels, it just simply isn't really designed around it. I'm sure it gets better as you level up/acquire more gold/etc

Anet promised to make leveling via WvW a viable option. So this is no excuse.


In what way is it not viable? this is just the first BWE, the game has not launched.

Just because there is a lack of players in WvW now, does not mean that is how it will be all the time.

Personally, I would not expect to level the same in WvW as PVE anyway, as WvW is dependant on other players being there, and PVE is not.


Being forced to Get Killing Blow just to get EXP from kills isnt good balance in design. its not Viable. simple as that.

In your opinion which really isn't that important.

  Chrome1980

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4/28/12 12:54:20 PM#12
Originally posted by Byrhofen
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by ebonized
Originally posted by MMOExposed

WvW seem very lacking.

The Travel times are horrid, while at the same time its not rewarding. I can get way faster EXP from PvE than WvW per hour. its crazy.

I believe you need to get killing blow. and with issues already in place from the combat, it is very easy to die from zerging.

its not rewarding, and I feel this will have long lasting damage to WvW's appeal.

 

 

Most of my money I earn has to be spent in WvW just to repair Gear. this is a major issue.


While you can do WvW at early levels, it just simply isn't really designed around it. I'm sure it gets better as you level up/acquire more gold/etc

Anet promised to make leveling via WvW a viable option. So this is no excuse.


In what way is it not viable? this is just the first BWE, the game has not launched.

Just because there is a lack of players in WvW now, does not mean that is how it will be all the time.

Personally, I would not expect to level the same in WvW as PVE anyway, as WvW is dependant on other players being there, and PVE is not.

PVE in GW2 is very dependent upon other players because of DE's. you can try to lvl soloing  DE's but you won't get very far.

  kalimah

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4/28/12 12:56:00 PM#13
Thank god these people never played  MMORPGS like DAOC.  If we had "give me fast...give me all.." types of people in DAOC, that game would have failed from the start.   Suck it up...
  Excession

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4/28/12 12:58:06 PM#14
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by Byrhofen
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by ebonized
Originally posted by MMOExposed

WvW seem very lacking.

The Travel times are horrid, while at the same time its not rewarding. I can get way faster EXP from PvE than WvW per hour. its crazy.

I believe you need to get killing blow. and with issues already in place from the combat, it is very easy to die from zerging.

its not rewarding, and I feel this will have long lasting damage to WvW's appeal.

 

 

Most of my money I earn has to be spent in WvW just to repair Gear. this is a major issue.


While you can do WvW at early levels, it just simply isn't really designed around it. I'm sure it gets better as you level up/acquire more gold/etc

Anet promised to make leveling via WvW a viable option. So this is no excuse.


In what way is it not viable? this is just the first BWE, the game has not launched.

Just because there is a lack of players in WvW now, does not mean that is how it will be all the time.

Personally, I would not expect to level the same in WvW as PVE anyway, as WvW is dependant on other players being there, and PVE is not.

PVE in GW2 is very dependent upon other players because of DE's. you can try to lvl soloing  DE's but you won't get very far.

DE's scale to the amount of players taking part, so not really a valid statement.

A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.

  MMOExposed

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OP  4/28/12 12:58:51 PM#15
Originally posted by Master10K

I'm not sure I agree with the whole killing blow thing you mentioned, because it seems you just have to deal a substantial amount of damage to your foe, in order gain XP & loot from a player (not an actual killing blow). I just think it needs to be balanced better, so that it is easier to pass the threshold to qualify for loot & XP from defeating a foe. Right now it doesn't feel as rewarding as PvE, but I find it more enjoyable than PvE (when it's open skirmishes & not Gate Wars 2).

 

My Level 5 Engineer entered WvW earlier today and now she's Level 8. Hasn't left yet. ^_^


I just tested this. Fighting a NPC in PvP for a bit, while kiting to guard and let a Guard get KB. No EXP was gained.

  skeaser

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4/28/12 1:00:37 PM#16
Make sure to post a constructive list of your concerns on the GW2 forums. That's the whole reason for these tests. If you feel something needs adjustment make sure to list what and why. If enough players share your feelings the devs will likely fix it. If there's no feedback they won't know that it needs to be fixed.


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  Chrome1980

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4/28/12 1:01:44 PM#17
Originally posted by Byrhofen
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by Byrhofen
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by ebonized
Originally posted by MMOExposed

WvW seem very lacking.

The Travel times are horrid, while at the same time its not rewarding. I can get way faster EXP from PvE than WvW per hour. its crazy.

I believe you need to get killing blow. and with issues already in place from the combat, it is very easy to die from zerging.

its not rewarding, and I feel this will have long lasting damage to WvW's appeal.

 

 

Most of my money I earn has to be spent in WvW just to repair Gear. this is a major issue.


While you can do WvW at early levels, it just simply isn't really designed around it. I'm sure it gets better as you level up/acquire more gold/etc

Anet promised to make leveling via WvW a viable option. So this is no excuse.


In what way is it not viable? this is just the first BWE, the game has not launched.

Just because there is a lack of players in WvW now, does not mean that is how it will be all the time.

Personally, I would not expect to level the same in WvW as PVE anyway, as WvW is dependant on other players being there, and PVE is not.

PVE in GW2 is very dependent upon other players because of DE's. you can try to lvl soloing  DE's but you won't get very far.

DE's scale to the amount of players taking part, so not really a valid statement.

It is very valid statement because even if you do DE with 3 or 4 people you are still dependent on other players You said WVW is player dependent but PVE isn't. So you are contradicting your own statement regardless of DE's scaling according to party size.

And if you solo it and think you can finish all the stages be my guest. You will most probably end up dead and move on to next DE just to leave it half finished once again.

  StoneRoses

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4/28/12 1:04:11 PM#18
Originally posted by kalimah
Thank god these people never played  MMORPGS like DAOC.  If we had "give me fast...give me all.." types of people in DAOC, that game would have failed from the start.   Suck it up...

Yeah, I know, this guy really complains a lot...

 

Maybe this will be his gamebreaker and we can see less of players like him around. 

 

No, nevermind, I don't thinks even possible. Folks around here force themselves to play a game they don't like all the damn time!

  synn

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4/28/12 1:09:09 PM#19
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by Byrhofen
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by ebonized
Originally posted by MMOExposed

WvW seem very lacking.

The Travel times are horrid, while at the same time its not rewarding. I can get way faster EXP from PvE than WvW per hour. its crazy.

I believe you need to get killing blow. and with issues already in place from the combat, it is very easy to die from zerging.

its not rewarding, and I feel this will have long lasting damage to WvW's appeal.

 

 

Most of my money I earn has to be spent in WvW just to repair Gear. this is a major issue.


While you can do WvW at early levels, it just simply isn't really designed around it. I'm sure it gets better as you level up/acquire more gold/etc

Anet promised to make leveling via WvW a viable option. So this is no excuse.


In what way is it not viable? this is just the first BWE, the game has not launched.

Just because there is a lack of players in WvW now, does not mean that is how it will be all the time.

Personally, I would not expect to level the same in WvW as PVE anyway, as WvW is dependant on other players being there, and PVE is not.


Being forced to Get Killing Blow just to get EXP from kills isnt good balance in design. its not Viable. simple as that.

 they have constant events ongoing and you can get xp from participating in those also. WvW isn't that bad aslong as you play smart. I think i died like 3 times in 2 1/2 hours and got 2 lvls and a pretty new sword.

  Reklaw

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4/28/12 1:10:29 PM#20
Originally posted by MMOExposed

WvW seem very lacking.

The Travel times are horrid, while at the same time its not rewarding. I can get way faster EXP from PvE than WvW per hour. its crazy.

I believe you need to get killing blow. and with issues already in place from the combat, it is very easy to die from zerging.

its not rewarding, and I feel this will have long lasting damage to WvW's appeal.

 

 

Most of my money I earn has to be spent in WvW just to repair Gear. this is a major issue.

Just curious, how long have you been in beta? Did it cross your mind many people might want to try out other things like actually getting to know their character and the gameworld before they might enter WvW?

In what way are the travel times horrid? I read there are teleports of some sorts, you need to travel on foot first to enable them? could that solve your issue partially??

In what way is WvW not rewarding? because you rush into it? << question, not many people in yet?? << another question

You made this topic but you're not giving any substantial information.

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