Originally posted by SuperXero89

Anyone who forks over the cash to buy the game has access to the beta.  Don't mince words with me.

Did you miss the part about where I said the game truly deserves a bit more time i the oven before they start opening it up to the public?  At this point, "CPU bound" means practically unplayable to a large amount of people -- not a good impression at all.

There a big difference between "the public" and "fully fledged customers". Sure, anyone can access the game but to do so they must make a financial commitment to the game.

Beta's are known to have worse performance then the finished product and at this point that's all that matters. Word of mouth about any flaws during the beta won't matter if those issues are fixed by them; if they are not then GW2 will get slammed for it just like any other game.

Long story short, it doesn't matter what impression the BETA makes on players (aside from feedback of course).

P.S. the devs have already told us they are still optimizing performance and gave the reason why it's slow right now. Unless you want to pretend they are lying to us there is really nothing left to say except "the game need better FPS by launch".

Originally posted by Chrome1980
They should delay the game another 6 months atleast. I would rather see a polished release with stable servers compared to this mess.

/facepalm

Complaining about server stability an hour and thirty minutes after servers officially open.

Originally posted by fundayz

Originally posted by SuperXero89

Anyone who forks over the cash to buy the game has access to the beta.  Don't mince words with me.

Did you miss the part about where I said the game truly deserves a bit more time i the oven before they start opening it up to the public?  At this point, "CPU bound" means practically unplayable to a large amount of people -- not a good impression at all.

There a big difference between "the public" and "fully fledged customers". Sure, anyone can access the game but to do so they must make a financial commitment to the game.

Beta's are known to have worse performance then the finished product and at this point that's all that matters. Word of mouth about any flaws during the beta won't matter if those issues are fixed by them; if they are not then GW2 will get slammed for it just like any other game.

Long story short, it doesn't matter what impression the BETA makes on players (aside from feedback of course).

P.S. the devs have already told us they are still optimizing performance and gave the reason why it's slow right now. Unless you want to pretend they are lying to us there is really nothing left to say except "the game need better FPS by launch".

Did you copy and paste that response from the WAR forums??

Originally posted by fundayz

Originally posted by SuperXero89

Anyone who forks over the cash to buy the game has access to the beta.  Don't mince words with me.

Did you miss the part about where I said the game truly deserves a bit more time i the oven before they start opening it up to the public?  At this point, "CPU bound" means practically unplayable to a large amount of people -- not a good impression at all.

There a big difference between "the public" and "fully fledged customers". Sure, anyone can access the game but to do so they must make a financial commitment to the game.

Beta's are known to have worse performance then the finished product and at this point that's all that matters. Word of mouth about any flaws during the beta won't matter if those issues are fixed by them; if they are not then GW2 will get slammed for it just like any other game.

Long story short, it doesn't matter what impression the BETA makes on players (aside from feedback of course).

P.S. the devs have already told us they are still optimizing performance and gave the reason why it's slow right now. Unless you want to pretend they are lying to us there is really nothing left to say except "the game need better FPS by launch".

When every other dev says this, we pretend they are lying, or a good portion of these forums do.

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by evolver1972

Originally posted by Chrome1980
They should delay the game another 6 months atleast. I would rather see a polished release with stable servers compared to this mess.

LOL are you trying to start a riot?

I don't think most people could handle another 6 months of waiting.  :D

I can ;) i am very patient person. Seriously wouldn't you want a more stable game?

I definitely want a stable game.  But I look at this as an issue that is very fixable quickly.  Especially the server crashes.  Remember, this is the first truly large scale test they've done yet.  I bet most of these issues will be resolved by the end of the weekend.  We'll see.

Originally posted by DiabloRocks

Did you copy and paste that response from the WAR forums??

I fail to see how that is relevant.

Originally posted by niceguy3978

When every other dev says this, we pretend they are lying, or a good portion of these forums do.

So you just generalize ALL developers. nice.

Originally posted by fundayz

Originally posted by Chrome1980

They should delay the game another 6 months atleast. I would rather see a polished release with stable servers compared to this mess.

/facepalm

Complaining about server stability an hour and thirty minutes after servers officially open.

It is a suggestion not  a complaint. But not that anyone is expecting GW2 fans to acknowledge the problem. 

Originally posted by fundayz

Originally posted by DiabloRocks

Did you copy and paste that response from the WAR forums??

I fail to see how that is relevant.

 

 

Originally posted by niceguy3978

When every other dev says this, we pretend they are lying, or a good portion of these forums do.

So you just generalize ALL developers. nice.

No, if you reread what I said, I'm not generalizing developers at all, I'm generalizing these forums :)

Originally posted by Chrome1980

It is a suggestion not  a complaint. But not that anyone is expecting GW2 fans to acknowledge the problem. 

I wouldn't call it a "problem" if it's been going on for less than 2 hours. You can't complain about server stability about the a beta event that's been going for less than half a day.

If you wanna complain about the FPS, go ahead, it IS low. 

Originally posted by fundayz

Originally posted by DiabloRocks

Did you copy and paste that response from the WAR forums??

I fail to see how that is relevant.

 

 

Originally posted by niceguy3978

When every other dev says this, we pretend they are lying, or a good portion of these forums do.

So you just generalize ALL developers. nice.

People made the same arguments for WAR day in and day out about the performance, that is how it is relative

Originally posted by QSatu
The game runs ok for me but could run much better after playing for 2 hours. Most options do almost nothing. Only shadows affect my framerate in any significant way. But I have amd/ati cpu and gpu so I expect some improvements. iot's a little bad coming from TERA which run flawlessly but yea.. it's beta =]

Did you have those issues in Tera's beta just wondering?

Originally posted by fundayz

Originally posted by Chrome1980

It is a suggestion not  a complaint. But not that anyone is expecting GW2 fans to acknowledge the problem. 

I wouldn't call it a "problem" if it's been going on for less than 2 hours. You can't complain about server stability about the a beta event that's been going for less than half a day.

If you wanna complain about the FPS, go ahead, it IS low. 

I don't know how hoping that ANET delays the release a little bit more to polish the game is a complaint? and yes people can complain about server stability in first few hours. They paid for the beta slot when they paid for the game. ANET isn't some rookie company.

But please free to shut everyone up..not that you will be successful.

Originally posted by DiabloRocks

Originally posted by QSatu
The game runs ok for me but could run much better after playing for 2 hours. Most options do almost nothing. Only shadows affect my framerate in any significant way. But I have amd/ati cpu and gpu so I expect some improvements. iot's a little bad coming from TERA which run flawlessly but yea.. it's beta =]

Did you have those issues in Tera's beta just wondering?

Tera has some of the best optimization/scaling that I've seen in a game, let alone an MMO. I'm running on a Core 2 Duo with a gtx460 and can often run the game on full in less dense areas with over 45fps. The awesome thing about the game is that even on medium settings, it still looks great. Tera is just solid...not much else to say.

Originally posted by DiabloRocks

Originally posted by evolver1972

Originally posted by Thralia

Originally posted by darkhalf357x
How many of you (complaining) have actually been in a beta before?

I ask because some are upset over optimization that ANet themselves said they were working on. The point of the beta is not for you to test the game. That's really a side perk

The actual point is for ANet to get real data/stress performance on the servers and client. Like others said, get angry IF after launch you see the same issues. Right now keep trying to play exposing what needs to be fixed so in the end we have a quality world to play in.

that would be the point if the gw2 + beta access woudl cost the same amount of € without beta access.

but it does not.

Where are you getting your info?  The cost of the game isn't any different whether you get beta access or not.  The only difference is when you pay the money.  If you pre-purchase (pay the money right now), you get access to beta.  If you pre-order or wait until after release, you pay the same amount but don't get the guaranteed access to beta.  I thought that was pretty clear by now....

I never paid a dime and I got into SWTOR, RIFT beta's, that is his point

thanks for pointing that out man !

Originally posted by DiabloRocks

Originally posted by QSatu
The game runs ok for me but could run much better after playing for 2 hours. Most options do almost nothing. Only shadows affect my framerate in any significant way. But I have amd/ati cpu and gpu so I expect some improvements. iot's a little bad coming from TERA which run flawlessly but yea.. it's beta =]

Did you have those issues in Tera's beta just wondering?

I only tried TERA 1 week ago and had a wonderful performance. but we have to remeber that TERA was release year ago in korea so they had lots of time to optimise the game. And GW2 has so much more detail ><

Originally posted by Feudalism

Originally posted by DiabloRocks

Originally posted by QSatu
The game runs ok for me but could run much better after playing for 2 hours. Most options do almost nothing. Only shadows affect my framerate in any significant way. But I have amd/ati cpu and gpu so I expect some improvements. iot's a little bad coming from TERA which run flawlessly but yea.. it's beta =]

Did you have those issues in Tera's beta just wondering?

Tera has some of the best optimization/scaling that I've seen in a game, let alone an MMO. I'm running on a Core 2 Duo with a gtx460 and can often run the game on full in less dense areas with over 45fps. The awesome thing about the game is that even on medium settings, it still looks great. Tera is just solid...not much else to say.

I agree I find it funny though how one game can have moreorless a stellar beta with zero issues while this one has quite a few issues and everyone defends it. This is WAR all over again trust me.

Originally posted by DiabloRocks

Originally posted by QSatu
The game runs ok for me but could run much better after playing for 2 hours. Most options do almost nothing. Only shadows affect my framerate in any significant way. But I have amd/ati cpu and gpu so I expect some improvements. iot's a little bad coming from TERA which run flawlessly but yea.. it's beta =]

Did you have those issues in Tera's beta just wondering?

Just wondering, did you know that TERA is 1 year old?

Originally posted by IceAge

Originally posted by DiabloRocks

Originally posted by QSatu
The game runs ok for me but could run much better after playing for 2 hours. Most options do almost nothing. Only shadows affect my framerate in any significant way. But I have amd/ati cpu and gpu so I expect some improvements. iot's a little bad coming from TERA which run flawlessly but yea.. it's beta =]

Did you have those issues in Tera's beta just wondering?

Just wondering, did you know that TERA is 1 year old?

But all betas have issues according to all the responses here, so now the excuses start I see

Originally posted by DiabloRocks

Originally posted by IceAge

Originally posted by DiabloRocks

Originally posted by QSatu
The game runs ok for me but could run much better after playing for 2 hours. Most options do almost nothing. Only shadows affect my framerate in any significant way. But I have amd/ati cpu and gpu so I expect some improvements. iot's a little bad coming from TERA which run flawlessly but yea.. it's beta =]

Did you have those issues in Tera's beta just wondering?

Just wondering, did you know that TERA is 1 year old?

But all betas have issues according to all the responses here, so now the excuses start I see

Re-read what i've been saying or /quit this thread. All beta have problems when they FIRST release. So for TERA that was 1 + year ago. Go read the korean forums, else shut up!