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General Discussion  » I'm still not convinced by the Guild Wars 2 hype.

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  tixylix

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OP  4/26/12 3:16:10 AM#1

Everything about the build up to this game reminds me of every other MMO that has come out since WoW and failed. It's always the media going "how amazing is this" because they go to some controlled event and are told by the developer why this and that feature are so innovative. Then you get to play the game and realise the smoke and mirrors behind that feature and realise it isn't so great. I bet this "dynamic" content isn't so dynamic when the game is released, people get to play for longer and get bored and see patterns in it. PC Gamer even said it seems rather scripted in their playthrough of GW2 and didn't seem that enthusiastic about it.

Everything is warning me off like the horrible choice of races, I think they all look like they came from an Asian MMO such as AION, Tera, Arche Age or Lineage etc. They have that horrible rabbit looking race which annoys me, it's like what Final Fantasy does with some small midget race to try and be "cute" because I guess the culture over there loves that stuff. Then you have how you teleport all over the world, which really breaks the immersion for me and just feels more like a game than a world. You had them stupid looking teleport doorways which I don't understand why they're a colour in  wall.... looks more placeholder to me. They could just have a doorway where you can see into the next zone so it feels a bit more immersive. 

The worst thing of all is I thing all the classes really bland, I've watched countless videos of them all and everyone praising them for being so amazing and unique and yet they all sort of look the same. I mean without the "trinity" they all do the same thing and they don't really look all that unique either. When you play TF2 you even have a trinity and every character is really unique and sticks out. You have your favourite class but you love to play them all because they all have their own personality and are really different. You have the DPS classes, the tank classes and the healer but the difference is you don't need the trinity to win because it is twitch based so it requires skill to win. 

Every MMO where I've found the classes to look really bland, I find that I don't like it. I just end up levelling 4 or 5 characters to level 20 before realising I hate them all, they all feel watered down or the same and just get bored and quit. The best MMO for classes was WoW, every class felt so unique, so fun to play and they all looked different, you could tell what class someone was playing just by looking at them in a split second. I found myself playing every class because I loved them all and not because I was struggling to find one I liked.

There are no mounts which are something everyone likes to get, they're the ultimate loot and running around everywhere is so much more fun with a mount. There is no open PVP either, it's all battleground based like SWTOR was where you have them calling Ilum as World PVP when it isn't because it isn't...

I just find the whole game bland really, the story just doesn't excite me, the world just looks rather generic and the art style just looks like another generic fantasy Asian MMO. Yet I pre ordered the game because I've been waiting since 2005 for an MMO I liked, I even bought Dark and Light back in the day even though it looked like crap, people were hyping that game up massively too lol. 

Guess I'll see on Friday, though I bet I'll hate it and it'll be more money down the drain.... only good news is the login screen is nice lol. I hope I eat my words and it's the best MMO since WoW. It's just all the fans as well saying how amazing it is that makes me think even more that it isn't. Every MMO it's the same story where either they're excited to be the only ones in beta so they feel part of a club and have to defend it or they believe the media hype who only get to see it in controlled bursts. They always drive players away as well when they claim that everything they say is wrong.

Like I said I hope on Friday I'm eating my words.

  gaeanprayer

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4/26/12 3:24:11 AM#2

Okay.

*moves on*

"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."

  Gwahlur

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4/26/12 3:26:08 AM#3

Good for you

  Draftbeer

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"Why Are You Wearing that Stupid Man Suit?"

4/26/12 3:27:12 AM#4

kthxbai

  Greyhooff

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Posts: 682

4/26/12 3:28:16 AM#5

To be fair, he does have a point.

GW2 is hyped like crazy and that's never been a good thing in the past. Better to be realistic about it.

Might just be me but all MMOs seem a bit rubbish now. WoW is in major decline, SWTOR is dying super-fast, Rift is kind of meh, Tera just doesn't seem like it can be huge like WoW was, AOC LOTRO CoH etc are kind of stale...

So naturally everyone is looking to GW2 to give them that "first MMO" feeling again. And that's just not realistic.

  LordDevil

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Joined: 1/09/04
Posts: 246

4/26/12 3:28:34 AM#6

The game is totally overhyped anyway.

I am pretty sure its not bad.. but who wants another fair pvp game with some battle grounds. Questing is all nice... but its limited till the end game.

I want a more dynamic game with open world pvp and some thrill to it. Hopefully at least Tera can give us that.

Currently playing: Tera
Waiting for: -

  MMOExposed

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4/26/12 3:29:10 AM#7

tell people this on Saturday

  jusomdude

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4/26/12 3:32:59 AM#8

The main reason I'm even thinking about getting this game is that there's no sub costs, and it seems like the pvp might be good. If it had a sub cost I probably wouldn't bother.

The hype really is bad though.

  lathaan

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Joined: 8/02/04
Posts: 392

4/26/12 3:33:53 AM#9

and why should we care?

  makii

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Posts: 293

4/26/12 3:35:12 AM#10

Well just wait and see what ppl will tell. My brother bought GW2 too and i will look over his shoulder to make my own opnion if its worth or not. Btw im the guy who thinks GW2 graphics looks so 2006. But tbh, not that i dont want GW2 to succeed (loved GW1 so much, it had everything i wanted), but im just sceptical in term of mmos. One youve played 10 different mmos, you played everyone for the next 100years. What changes is only the skin.

  alanthecelt

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Joined: 1/26/10
Posts: 122

4/26/12 3:38:28 AM#11

Have you played it?

*Edited in jsut because*

What can you lose out on, you buy a typical game and expect to get 30 hours out of it for £30-40, you'll play this for much longer, as and when you want to. Its a game that you will be able to pick up and put down for a very long time.. sure if you "powerlevel" then you could probably burn out on it... just dont play it like that...

 

  Caldrin

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4/26/12 3:40:13 AM#12

Dont believe what people will say this weekend.. all the fanboys will be defending the game as much as possible even if its turns out like all the other super hyped games.. try it yourself and see at least after this weekend we can start talking about it haha.. unlike the guy above who just broke NDA by saying he played a beta weekend..

 

 

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  makii

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4/26/12 3:42:48 AM#13
Originally posted by Caldrin

Dont believe what people will say this weekend.. all the fanboys will be defending the game as much as possible even if its turns out like all the other super hyped games.. try it yourself and see at least after this weekend we can start talking about it haha..

Well this Forum is know for its critism. I think you will read more bad things than good things. If you enjoyed it though, i wouldnt recommend to come to this Forum. They may smash your vision of a great game. 

  gaeanprayer

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4/26/12 3:44:29 AM#14
Originally posted by Caldrin

Dont believe what people will say this weekend.. all the fanboys will be defending the game as much as possible even if its turns out like all the other super hyped games.. try it yourself and see at least after this weekend we can start talking about it haha.. unlike the guy above who just broke NDA by saying he played a beta weekend..

 

 

Unlikely. MMORPG.com forums are 5 troll to every 1 fan boy, especially considering most trolls are a fan boy of one rival game or another. It's far more likely you're going to be reading innaccurate negative reviews than inaccurate positive ones.

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  Pigozz

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Nihil gratis

4/26/12 3:46:22 AM#15

Jesus OP, the dynamic events ARE scripted!! :D

What did you expect, some AI that just do whatever the hell it feels like doing? :D

Dynamic events are (general speaking) chains of quest that arent insatnced for every player, but are public - so GW2 dont have to use phasing, the world "phases" for everyone based on whether they complete or fail or dont participate at all in an event, moving them upwards or downwards the event chain

After some time (depends on the grandness of the event chain) the whole system will return to some of it previous states and will repeat itself

The difference is that there is many of those events so when you revisit a zone you cannot know if the city will be burning/poisoned/attacked by bandits/just standing etc; 

 Also you lost some credit when whining about mounts that just mean you' re another wow indoctrinated I-need-the-same-as-Im-used-to-in-other-mmos!! player

And you lost it completely when after bashing how bland GW2 is, you still preordering it - that just means you jumped on the hypetrain. I mean if you dont find it good dont buy it...why the hell would you..Guys like you are the reason the latest MMOs were so bad, because people like you bought them for the hype

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Runescape,Lineage II, WoW,Tabula Rasa, AoC,Eve Online,Guild Wars, Rift(beta only),SWTOR(beta only),Star Trek Online
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  alanthecelt

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Posts: 122

4/26/12 3:51:25 AM#16

pretty sure my comments were general enough to not have broken any NDA

but yer just play it make your own mind up what have you got to lose? you'll get value for money thats for sure

  Zeroxin

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4/26/12 3:52:37 AM#17
Originally posted by tixylix
*snip*

First thing I'll say is, Guild Wars 2 looks forward to converting you. Second thing I'll say is, get your facts and lies straight after the beta ends because *straightens tie* we'll be watching you.

This is not a game.

  cinos

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Posts: 911

4/26/12 3:57:27 AM#18

Ok that's fine, I can understand your opin....wait, YOU STILL BOUGHT IT! 0_o

  EvilGeek

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4/26/12 4:00:32 AM#19

OP look forward to hearing how you feel after this weekends event, going in with low expectations is better than going in with overly high expectations, less chance of being disappointed.


  Voiidiin

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4/26/12 4:02:51 AM#20

Hmm, i am just plain sick of feeling i need to defend the game anymore, it speaks for itself. Call video proof and previews by respected game bloggers/reviewers hype all you want but its there and as i said it speaks for itself. 

If you do not feel this game is not for you at this moment why in the world would you pre-purchase it ? 

Comes across as attention mongering, in hopes you could start a flame war and be the OP of it. I won't flame you or any others for feeling this way, you have every right to, but i will be flabbergasted at you for buying a game you seem to dislike so much.

 

I for one cannot wait for Friday April 27th 2012 @12:00pm PST.  Then i will know how justified i am in my view of Guild Wars 2 and ANet.

By the way, if it sucks as much as those who have posted in this thread claim it to, i promise to eat my words and come back here to state how wrong i was and how terrible it is. Course i really do nto see that happening because i already know how great it is beause of all the evidence i have witnessed.

Lolipops !

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