Originally posted by alacres

Originally posted by sadeyx

Came expecting a discusion about Titan quest and Diablo...

Arrived with a discusison about Path of Exile Vs Diablo.  (srsly OP, I'd complain about users trying to de-rail your discussion)

Path of Exile is awful,  it seriously doesnt compete with either Titan Quest 'Immortal Throne' or Diablo 3.    Its more on the level of Torchlight.   Which imo was just a joke, a studio that had some spare time to make a quick hack n slash.

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TQ Vs D3

 

This is tough since we've only seen 1% of diablo,  I do agree though TQ is awesome!  The class combinations alone are mindboggling,  the vast amount of items (you dont even realise how many items there are until you download TQCollector.

And yes, the graphics on TQ do seem better than D3,  although I dont think the animations and the effects are quite as good.

 

Then of course there is TQ's biggest problem,  client side items.  This makes duping and modding easy, you wont see this in D3 and when you do find rare items in d3 it will be a lot more exciting than in TQ.. esp since you can sell items for real money.

 

Diablo is Diablo though,  its a phenomena, a historical game that will set new records,  I was never part of the Diablo 2 history making and Im sure as hell not going to miss out this time.

At the risk of de-railing it even further, what exactly makes PoE awful compared to the others? It's pointless saying sh*t like that without giving any reasoning behind it.

So what makes the game seem so terrible for you?

I can answer that one...

PoE has ugly graphics, just varying shades of red and grey. It has no story at all or if it had one, it was so shallow, i missed it altogether. The towns and npcs are lackluster at best, with no character at all. the monster fighting was 97% crabs and didnt change much from 1 zone to the next. bosses were just bigger crabs.

I bought a beta key for 5 bucks. worst 5 bucks i've ever spent. It would of been much better spent on hot pockets and a can of red bull to enjoy while i played the D3 beta.

I could never get into Titan Quest, it just never drew me in. I'm looking at Grim Dawn and PoE as the real successors.

This is unfortunately true. The makers of Titan Quest are making Grim Dawn. :)

Originally posted by wrightstuf

Originally posted by alacres

Originally posted by sadeyx

Came expecting a discusion about Titan quest and Diablo...

Arrived with a discusison about Path of Exile Vs Diablo.  (srsly OP, I'd complain about users trying to de-rail your discussion)

Path of Exile is awful,  it seriously doesnt compete with either Titan Quest 'Immortal Throne' or Diablo 3.    Its more on the level of Torchlight.   Which imo was just a joke, a studio that had some spare time to make a quick hack n slash.

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TQ Vs D3

 

This is tough since we've only seen 1% of diablo,  I do agree though TQ is awesome!  The class combinations alone are mindboggling,  the vast amount of items (you dont even realise how many items there are until you download TQCollector.

And yes, the graphics on TQ do seem better than D3,  although I dont think the animations and the effects are quite as good.

 

Then of course there is TQ's biggest problem,  client side items.  This makes duping and modding easy, you wont see this in D3 and when you do find rare items in d3 it will be a lot more exciting than in TQ.. esp since you can sell items for real money.

 

Diablo is Diablo though,  its a phenomena, a historical game that will set new records,  I was never part of the Diablo 2 history making and Im sure as hell not going to miss out this time.

At the risk of de-railing it even further, what exactly makes PoE awful compared to the others? It's pointless saying sh*t like that without giving any reasoning behind it.

So what makes the game seem so terrible for you?

I can answer that one...

PoE has ugly graphics, just varying shades of red and grey. It has no story at all or if it had one, it was so shallow, i missed it altogether. The towns and npcs are lackluster at best, with no character at all. the monster fighting was 97% crabs and didnt change much from 1 zone to the next. bosses were just bigger crabs.

I bought a beta key for 5 bucks. worst 5 bucks i've ever spent. It would of been much better spent on hot pockets and a can of red bull to enjoy while i played the D3 beta.

You giving me your subjective opinion about something doesn't answer my question. Personally, I greatly prefer the art style of PoE to D3, because I like grittier over cartoon-ish. As for the story, they're are still working on a lot of stuff, but from what I've seen I disagree with your point on this too. The game is still in closed beta stage, and they're working with a much more limited funding, so naturally there are some things they still need to work on.

So yeah, all things considered, I still fail to see what's so much cripplingly worse about PoE. You might not personally like the style of it, among other things, but that doesn't make it "awful" compared to the others. People need to get over themselves and realize that their opinion isn't the gospel.

 In light of the highly subjective nature of this thread, I'll throw my virtual weight around.

D3 > TQ

Titan's Quest is a horrid game, it has none of the charm of the Diablo universe. Therefore Diablo 3 , even the small percentage we've seen, is miles ahead of the Titans Quest in every aspect.

Yes .....  that is what the thread amounts to.

Originally posted by wrightstuf

Originally posted by alacres

Originally posted by sadeyx

Came expecting a discusion about Titan quest and Diablo...

Arrived with a discusison about Path of Exile Vs Diablo.  (srsly OP, I'd complain about users trying to de-rail your discussion)

Path of Exile is awful,  it seriously doesnt compete with either Titan Quest 'Immortal Throne' or Diablo 3.    Its more on the level of Torchlight.   Which imo was just a joke, a studio that had some spare time to make a quick hack n slash.

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TQ Vs D3

 

This is tough since we've only seen 1% of diablo,  I do agree though TQ is awesome!  The class combinations alone are mindboggling,  the vast amount of items (you dont even realise how many items there are until you download TQCollector.

And yes, the graphics on TQ do seem better than D3,  although I dont think the animations and the effects are quite as good.

 

Then of course there is TQ's biggest problem,  client side items.  This makes duping and modding easy, you wont see this in D3 and when you do find rare items in d3 it will be a lot more exciting than in TQ.. esp since you can sell items for real money.

 

Diablo is Diablo though,  its a phenomena, a historical game that will set new records,  I was never part of the Diablo 2 history making and Im sure as hell not going to miss out this time.

At the risk of de-railing it even further, what exactly makes PoE awful compared to the others? It's pointless saying sh*t like that without giving any reasoning behind it.

So what makes the game seem so terrible for you?

I can answer that one...

PoE has ugly graphics, just varying shades of red and grey. It has no story at all or if it had one, it was so shallow, i missed it altogether. The towns and npcs are lackluster at best, with no character at all. the monster fighting was 97% crabs and didnt change much from 1 zone to the next. bosses were just bigger crabs.

I bought a beta key for 5 bucks. worst 5 bucks i've ever spent. It would of been much better spent on hot pockets and a can of red bull to enjoy while i played the D3 beta.

I disagree.. POE has the best grahics of any of the Diablo clone games out there. gameplay, atmospshere and graphics its well ahead of D3s cartoon style graphics and schooby doo scary atmos.. only thing D3 has over POE at the moment is the story and lore but then again they have made 2 other diablo games so have a lot to fall back on...

I spend $15 on POE is its the best $15 i have spent in a long time.. I am not saying this because i hate D3 or anything infact i think its realyl fun as well but not as good as POE...

Now the TQ series was also fun adn i agree its better than D3 as well

Titan's Quest is an AMAZING game, but in my opinion, was just about as fun as D2 (although not quite as addictive), but isn't near the quality of D3.

Like I said, my opinion. I would HIGHLY recommend it to anyone to pass the time from now to D3 however. It's got an awesome storyline and is epic.

Originally posted by FrodoFragins
This thread got me to reinstall TQ and I'm playing an hour or so a day until D3 comes out.  It really should of been much more popular, and maybe would have if it was released a couple of years later.  There were still lots of people playing D2 in 2006.  TQ just slipped under my radar for years.

I guess D2 was why I missed TQ too. I remember a lot of publicity about D2 but don't remember any real competitor to it. Blizz had a pretty successful marketing strategy apparently. TQ seems worth going back to though, even up against D3. I just know it is almost inevitable that Steam will have another 75% sale so I figure I can just wait till then and play PoE for now.

Originally posted by snoocky

If you like Titan Quest, give Path of Exile a go :)

Wrong, PoE is poor compared to both TQ and D3. Big fan of both games and PoE didn't last one day on my hard drive once I got into the beta.

Originally posted by Mannish
Titan Quest was an amazing game and I would love to see a sequal for it. Diablo 3 is a total LOL.

Been in the works for a while now:

http://www.grimdawn.com/

Dang double posts!

Originally posted by jpnole

Originally posted by Mannish
Titan Quest was an amazing game and I would love to see a sequal for it. Diablo 3 is a total LOL.

Been in the works for a while now:

 

http://www.grimdawn.com/

 

 

I'll be playing D3 for sure, but this game does look a lot darker and grittier than D3 for sure. It looks great.

Originally posted by jpnole

Originally posted by Mannish
Titan Quest was an amazing game and I would love to see a sequal for it. Diablo 3 is a total LOL.

Been in the works for a while now:

 

http://www.grimdawn.com/

They just don't have the financial backing to do it justice.

Originally posted by FrodoFragins
TQ is a very solid filler game when you are sick of D2 and most likely D3.  I had more fun with TL combat than TQ but TQ has much more replayability and depth to TL.  TL2 may surpass TQ though once the mods come out.

This was my experience with TQ as well. I found its skill trees, dual class speccing to be more in depth than the TL talent trees, but I actually had more fun with TL overall and ended up replaying it much more often than TQ. I am eagerly awaiting TL2.

The thing I really did not like about TQ was all of the hitching and stuttering of the game. I played it on several different computers, so did my brother, and it didn't matter. It stuttered no matter what I did to try to eleviate the problem. D2 had some quirky areas (like once Bhaal was killed) but usually the fps dropped for only a second or two consistantly in some areas. In TQ, it could hitch for quite some time and in random areas so you could not guess when it would happen.

Despite the very many class combos, I found most of the classes drabber to play than the D2 ones. Blizzard's strength is that it always seems to make really good, compelling classes. I don't know if D3 follows suit, but the ones in D1 and D2 were so much fun to play.

Originally posted by MurlockDance

Originally posted by FrodoFragins
TQ is a very solid filler game when you are sick of D2 and most likely D3.  I had more fun with TL combat than TQ but TQ has much more replayability and depth to TL.  TL2 may surpass TQ though once the mods come out.

This was my experience with TQ as well. I found its skill trees, dual class speccing to be more in depth than the TL talent trees, but I actually had more fun with TL overall and ended up replaying it much more often than TQ. I am eagerly awaiting TL2.

The thing I really did not like about TQ was all of the hitching and stuttering of the game. I played it on several different computers, so did my brother, and it didn't matter. It stuttered no matter what I did to try to eleviate the problem. D2 had some quirky areas (like once Bhaal was killed) but usually the fps dropped for only a second or two consistantly in some areas. In TQ, it could hitch for quite some time and in random areas so you could not guess when it would happen.

Despite the very many class combos, I found most of the classes drabber to play than the D2 ones. Blizzard's strength is that it always seems to make really good, compelling classes. I don't know if D3 follows suit, but the ones in D1 and D2 were so much fun to play.

I definitely agree that Blizzard always makes sure the classes are really fun to play.  TQ really dropped the ball there in many cases, but they were pretty ambitious with their dual class system.

"I can answer that one...

PoE has ugly graphics, just varying shades of red and grey. It has no story at all or if it had one, it was so shallow, i missed it altogether. The towns and npcs are lackluster at best, with no character at all. the monster fighting was 97% crabs and didnt change much from 1 zone to the next. bosses were just bigger crabs.

I bought a beta key for 5 bucks. worst 5 bucks i've ever spent. It would of been much better spent on hot pockets and a can of red bull to enjoy while i played the D3 beta."

An absolutely laughable exaggeration, that hardly merits a reply. However, it appears that tens of thousands of people disagree with your ridiculous assessment of POE.  They had an "Open Beta" stress test of the game over Easter, which had nearly 50,000 different people play it, despite it still being quite "in Beta" and not being that well known.

In the aftermath of that, they raised over $200,000 in donations in just five days of fund raising, and from what I hear, that total is closing in on $350,000.  This is for a first title from a small, New Zealand-based indie studio

There is a deep story in POE, but right now it's communicated through NPCs, lore on Unique items, and on the website.  Yes, I know that means you actually have to *read* your lore rather than just listen to it, but good news wrightstuf!  They've promised the game will contain full voice overs when it releases.  The game also has only two of three planned Acts currently, and Act 3 will contain a lot of those missing story elements.  The entire point of the story is that you're abandoned on a desolate beach, without really initially knowing why you're there or where you're headed. 

And seriously, can you actually say that you enjoyed the D3 Beta?  A boring, repetitous slog through 45 minutes of shallow content with zero challenge or customization?  The game has a handful of skills that are basically interchangeable, and all of them demolish your enemies instantly without a hint of danger.  Oh yeah, and the loot system is a complete joke, basically a copy paste of WoW's green items, even down to the names of the prefixes and suffixes.  As a hardcore ARPG player, there is nothing I like more than a big giant NUMBER on every weapon I find, so that I don't have to take even five seconds to actually figure out if it's an upgrade for me.  

POE is a fantastic game, already astonishing in its ambitions and depth, that promises to be perhaps the best game ever made in the ARPG genre when it's done.  It's also free, figured I'd mention that too.

This thread does a pretty good job of demonstrating I'm far from alone in my assessments:

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/29092

Originally posted by FrodoFragins

Originally posted by jpnole

Originally posted by Mannish
Titan Quest was an amazing game and I would love to see a sequal for it. Diablo 3 is a total LOL.

Been in the works for a while now:

 

http://www.grimdawn.com/

 

They just don't have the financial backing to do it justice.

Not true they will meet their goals through Kickstarter and finish the game in 2013. Can't wait to play it!