Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

And another person that fails at reading.  

Ok lets try this again.  Body type is the only thing that is keeping Norns and Humans from looking the same (taking hight out of it).  Ok NOW do you get it?  Just so you know body type does effect your customization.    

It is very hard to have a discussion with obnoxious people but i will try again. The guy who wrote the article isn't just taking about size and height . You just developed a strawman here which had nothign to do with the ongoing discussion regarding having more options in character creation. Yes height and size does matter but there other things to which can keep the look of NORN intact so that they don't look like human but still look different from other norns.So saying i am ok with limited options is just bull.

I love it when poeple can't bring up a counter argument they always say "strawman".  I was not talking about just height or body shape.  The fact is that Norn and Humans look very similar,  if we were given full options on changing thier features than we could make them look the same (not counting hight).   How am i grasping at straws?  Oh and if you could read i said i didn't like how it had limited options, but i am willing to take limited options if A.Net (you know the ones that are creating the game, and the artistic feel of the game) feels its needed.  

Yes YOU were but that doesn't mean that the original point made by author was wrong or less accurate considering you wrapped it all nicely into 'i am ok with limited options since they are trying to keep artisitic style of visuals'. So you jumbled up the original point of lack of optimization with your own strawman to arrive to this ridiculous conclusion.

Yet again your not going to talk about the points of the post, just say "strawman".  So in other words you can't counter argue. 

I have already countered your argument several times. You were just trying to undermine the reviewers point of view by bringing in ' NORN's body size' strawman even though his criticism wasn't just about Norn or Asura in particular.

Sorry but if you are goign to create a strawman i will have to mention it.

I was saying nothing about the authors points.  I have no reason too, he did that all himself.  Again go back and read the posts and don't just jump in at the end.  

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

And another person that fails at reading.  

Ok lets try this again.  Body type is the only thing that is keeping Norns and Humans from looking the same (taking hight out of it).  Ok NOW do you get it?  Just so you know body type does effect your customization.    

It is very hard to have a discussion with obnoxious people but i will try again. The guy who wrote the article isn't just taking about size and height . You just developed a strawman here which had nothign to do with the ongoing discussion regarding having more options in character creation. Yes height and size does matter but there other things to which can keep the look of NORN intact so that they don't look like human but still look different from other norns.So saying i am ok with limited options is just bull.

I love it when poeple can't bring up a counter argument they always say "strawman".  I was not talking about just height or body shape.  The fact is that Norn and Humans look very similar,  if we were given full options on changing thier features than we could make them look the same (not counting hight).   How am i grasping at straws?  Oh and if you could read i said i didn't like how it had limited options, but i am willing to take limited options if A.Net (you know the ones that are creating the game, and the artistic feel of the game) feels its needed.  

Yes YOU were but that doesn't mean that the original point made by author was wrong or less accurate considering you wrapped it all nicely into 'i am ok with limited options since they are trying to keep artisitic style of visuals'. So you jumbled up the original point of lack of optimization with your own strawman to arrive to this ridiculous conclusion.

Look you were not following the topic its ok.  We were talking about why we didn't have more options. Sliders and everything.  I was giving a logical reason why they would want to control how the players looked.  Is it the correct reason, who knows.  

And i am talking about more options in over all customization and not just body sliders. You seem to make your point as 'end of it all' in discussion about customization.

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

And another person that fails at reading.  

Ok lets try this again.  Body type is the only thing that is keeping Norns and Humans from looking the same (taking hight out of it).  Ok NOW do you get it?  Just so you know body type does effect your customization.    

It is very hard to have a discussion with obnoxious people but i will try again. The guy who wrote the article isn't just taking about size and height . You just developed a strawman here which had nothign to do with the ongoing discussion regarding having more options in character creation. Yes height and size does matter but there other things to which can keep the look of NORN intact so that they don't look like human but still look different from other norns.So saying i am ok with limited options is just bull.

I love it when poeple can't bring up a counter argument they always say "strawman".  I was not talking about just height or body shape.  The fact is that Norn and Humans look very similar,  if we were given full options on changing thier features than we could make them look the same (not counting hight).   How am i grasping at straws?  Oh and if you could read i said i didn't like how it had limited options, but i am willing to take limited options if A.Net (you know the ones that are creating the game, and the artistic feel of the game) feels its needed.  

Yes YOU were but that doesn't mean that the original point made by author was wrong or less accurate considering you wrapped it all nicely into 'i am ok with limited options since they are trying to keep artisitic style of visuals'. So you jumbled up the original point of lack of optimization with your own strawman to arrive to this ridiculous conclusion.

Look you were not following the topic its ok.  We were talking about why we didn't have more options. Sliders and everything.  I was giving a logical reason why they would want to control how the players looked.  Is it the correct reason, who knows.  

And i am talking about more options in over all customization and not just body sliders. You seem to make your point as 'end of it all' in discussion about customization.

So since you quoted me perhaps you should stick to what i was talking about.  If you want to start something else than perhaps you should say that.   man talk about some one building a strawman.  you just admitted you did just that.  

Originally posted by TheYear1500

I was saying nothing about the authors points.  I have no reason too, he did that all himself.  Again go back and read the posts and don't just jump in at the end.  

So why did you even bother to quote me in first place? because i was talking about  over all lacking customization and not just the body sliders for size and height. 

Originally posted by TheYear1500

 

So since you quoted me perhaps you should stick to what i was talking about.  If you want to start something else than perhaps you should say that.   man talk about some one building a strawman.  you just admitted you did just that.  

 

Wow..just wow..dude go back and read up. You quoted me, i wasn't even talking to you.

/facepalm

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

I was saying nothing about the authors points.  I have no reason too, he did that all himself.  Again go back and read the posts and don't just jump in at the end.  

So why did you even bother to quote me in first place? because i was talking about  over all lacking customization and not just the body sliders for size and height. 

 

wow your just sad.  I was never talking about sliders for size and height.  I said it over and over again that it was not about size and hight.  Perhaps you could go back and try reading.   

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

I was saying nothing about the authors points.  I have no reason too, he did that all himself.  Again go back and read the posts and don't just jump in at the end.  

So why did you even bother to quote me in first place? because i was talking about  over all lacking customization and not just the body sliders for size and height. 

 

wow your just sad.  I was never talking about sliders for size and height.  I said it over and over again that it was not about size and hight.  Perhaps you could go back and try reading.   

So you forgot after one page that you quoted me first even though i wasn't even talking to you? or shall i send you link to refresh your memory? i think i should since you are so irritating.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/347961/page/15

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

And another person that fails at reading.  

Ok lets try this again.  Body type is the only thing that is keeping Norns and Humans from looking the same (taking hight out of it).  Ok NOW do you get it?  Just so you know body type does effect your customization.    

It is very hard to have a discussion with obnoxious people but i will try again. The guy who wrote the article isn't just taking about size and height . You just developed a strawman here which had nothign to do with the ongoing discussion regarding having more options in character creation. Yes height and size does matter but there other things to which can keep the look of NORN intact so that they don't look like human but still look different from other norns.So saying i am ok with limited options is just bull.

I love it when poeple can't bring up a counter argument they always say "strawman".  I was not talking about just height or body shape.  The fact is that Norn and Humans look very similar,  if we were given full options on changing thier features than we could make them look the same (not counting hight).   How am i grasping at straws?  Oh and if you could read i said i didn't like how it had limited options, but i am willing to take limited options if A.Net (you know the ones that are creating the game, and the artistic feel of the game) feels its needed.  

 

The only thing keeping them from looking the same are their physical features.  Only way of making sure they look different is if you limit the physical features options you give the players.  

I will even show my quote again.  If you had sliders to change the physical features you could make a Norn that looked like a tall Human, Or you could make a Human that looked like a short Norn.  

Again see i was leaving size out of it.  It has nothing and has never been about size or height.  

You are right, i misspoke.  I keep forgetting how lost you are.   And i joined you in being lost.  

This is what started it all..and yes i need to do a /facepalm here. Talking about being lost you can't even keep track of who quoted whom.

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by Kakkzooka

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by Kakkzooka

This article only proves one thing: ArenaNet doesn't write checks in exchange for positive previews. EA did.

The article is very positive..why the hell Anet needs to write check? or they already did based on positive article.

I don't think you even read the whole thing.

I'm being slightly facetious. I did read the article and it does turn out to be positive. But read this same reviewer's opinion of TOR - and if that doesn't make you go "Hmmmmmm," then I don't know what would.

 

Why he would start off with inanities about playing a female character and not having the choice to make an older woman, whereas when he reviewed TOR (a game that only gives you about eight different choices in character creation - there are carbon copies to the brim in SWTOR) there were no negatives mentioned. Particulary not about perceived shallow character choices.

That, objectively, is very suspicious.

You are just trying too hard to find faults here.  The character creating of GW2 is but a slight improvement especially for human race. Will it change in future or not who knows but his disliking of how human looks has nothing to do with TOR.

I think people who just hate TOR and pretty obsessed with it try to find connections even when they do not exist. Also expectations with GW2 are pretty high so i don't blame people for expecting a bit more out of character creation in GW2, isn't that what GW2 is all about? improving on existing features?

I like how GW2 fans deflect any criticism regarding GW2 towards TOR..as if it gives it a free pass.

Since when has GW2 been about improving on existing features?   It was not GW2 fans or people on this forum that dragged TOR into this, the author did, he is the one that was compairing the two.  While I do agree that the options in the character creation is lacking for some races.  I also understand that they are going for an artistic style, and thats the reason you have body types and not sliders.  This might also explain the lack of older, or perhaps ugly options.  They are really treating the game like an art project in terms of visuals.  So i am willing to have limmited options, in order to maintain that artistic style   

 

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

I was saying nothing about the authors points.  I have no reason too, he did that all himself.  Again go back and read the posts and don't just jump in at the end.  

So why did you even bother to quote me in first place? because i was talking about  over all lacking customization and not just the body sliders for size and height. 

 

wow your just sad.  I was never talking about sliders for size and height.  I said it over and over again that it was not about size and hight.  Perhaps you could go back and try reading.   

So you forgot after one page that you quoted me first even though i wasn't even talking to you? or shall i send you link to refresh your memory? i think i should since you are so irritating.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/347961/page/15

I love how you still are unable to read a post.  

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

I was saying nothing about the authors points.  I have no reason too, he did that all himself.  Again go back and read the posts and don't just jump in at the end.  

So why did you even bother to quote me in first place? because i was talking about  over all lacking customization and not just the body sliders for size and height. 

 

wow your just sad.  I was never talking about sliders for size and height.  I said it over and over again that it was not about size and hight.  Perhaps you could go back and try reading.   

So you forgot after one page that you quoted me first even though i wasn't even talking to you? or shall i send you link to refresh your memory? i think i should since you are so irritating.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/347961/page/15

I love how you still are unable to read a post.  

And i love how you accuse me for quoting you first when it was indeed you who quoted me and went on an off tangent rant about body sliders and size of NORN. Which had nothign to do with what i was saying.

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

I was saying nothing about the authors points.  I have no reason too, he did that all himself.  Again go back and read the posts and don't just jump in at the end.  

So why did you even bother to quote me in first place? because i was talking about  over all lacking customization and not just the body sliders for size and height. 

 

wow your just sad.  I was never talking about sliders for size and height.  I said it over and over again that it was not about size and hight.  Perhaps you could go back and try reading.   

So you forgot after one page that you quoted me first even though i wasn't even talking to you? or shall i send you link to refresh your memory? i think i should since you are so irritating.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/347961/page/15

I love how you still are unable to read a post.  

And i love how you accuse me for quoting you first when it was indeed you who quoted me and went on an off tangent rant about body sliders and size of NORN. Which had nothign to do with what i was saying.

LOL i did address your post and i added to the thread.  Would making a new paragraph helped sure.

Its called adding to a thread perhaps you know what this is? 

Good read. He makes some interesting observations. Its weird that so many GW2 fans in this thread are bashing the guy. He really liked it. In fact, he called it an evolution of the genre.

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

I was saying nothing about the authors points.  I have no reason too, he did that all himself.  Again go back and read the posts and don't just jump in at the end.  

So why did you even bother to quote me in first place? because i was talking about  over all lacking customization and not just the body sliders for size and height. 

 

wow your just sad.  I was never talking about sliders for size and height.  I said it over and over again that it was not about size and hight.  Perhaps you could go back and try reading.   

So you forgot after one page that you quoted me first even though i wasn't even talking to you? or shall i send you link to refresh your memory? i think i should since you are so irritating.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/347961/page/15

I love how you still are unable to read a post.  

And i love how you accuse me for quoting you first when it was indeed you who quoted me and went on an off tangent rant about body sliders and size of NORN. Which had nothign to do with what i was saying.

LOL i did address your post and i added to the thread.  Would making a new paragraph helped sure.

 

Its called adding to a thread perhaps you know what this is? 

Still changing goal posts i see. I think you are one of those people who just love to have a last word on internet and then pat themselves on the back for winning an argument. Now you create another strawman ignoring how you completely messed up here. Now you are talking about adding to a thread and addressing me when just few minutes back you couldn't even remember whom quoted whom first and you were telling me not to quote you if i had nothing to add to your points being made. /facepalm

Seriously dude make up your mind. Which one is it? 

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

I was saying nothing about the authors points.  I have no reason too, he did that all himself.  Again go back and read the posts and don't just jump in at the end.  

So why did you even bother to quote me in first place? because i was talking about  over all lacking customization and not just the body sliders for size and height. 

 

wow your just sad.  I was never talking about sliders for size and height.  I said it over and over again that it was not about size and hight.  Perhaps you could go back and try reading.   

So you forgot after one page that you quoted me first even though i wasn't even talking to you? or shall i send you link to refresh your memory? i think i should since you are so irritating.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/347961/page/15

I love how you still are unable to read a post.  

And i love how you accuse me for quoting you first when it was indeed you who quoted me and went on an off tangent rant about body sliders and size of NORN. Which had nothign to do with what i was saying.

LOL i did address your post and i added to the thread.  Would making a new paragraph helped sure.

 

Its called adding to a thread perhaps you know what this is? 

Still changing goal posts i see. I think you are one of those people who just love to have a last word on internet and then pat themselves on the back for winning an argument. Now you create another strawman ignoring how you completely messed up here. Now you are talking about adding to a thread and addressing me when just few minutes back you couldn't even remember whom quoted whom first and you were telling me not to quote you if i had nothing to add to your points being made. /facepalm

Seriously dude make up your mind. Which one is it? 

Nope not at all.  And your the one that keep posting with out adding anything to the thread.  Perhaps you should try looking up some information about GW2 before posting.     

Norns and Humans look very similar,  to keep them from looking the same (just having a height difference).  It is nessary to limit the options in how you change the physical features.  This is a very logical reason for having limitied options.   Body shape is one of them.   

I never said i didn't quote you.  But your quote of me had nothing to do with what i said.  If you unable to read a post and talk about what is in that post....

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

I was saying nothing about the authors points.  I have no reason too, he did that all himself.  Again go back and read the posts and don't just jump in at the end.  

So why did you even bother to quote me in first place? because i was talking about  over all lacking customization and not just the body sliders for size and height. 

 

wow your just sad.  I was never talking about sliders for size and height.  I said it over and over again that it was not about size and hight.  Perhaps you could go back and try reading.   

So you forgot after one page that you quoted me first even though i wasn't even talking to you? or shall i send you link to refresh your memory? i think i should since you are so irritating.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/347961/page/15

I love how you still are unable to read a post.  

And i love how you accuse me for quoting you first when it was indeed you who quoted me and went on an off tangent rant about body sliders and size of NORN. Which had nothign to do with what i was saying.

LOL i did address your post and i added to the thread.  Would making a new paragraph helped sure.

 

Its called adding to a thread perhaps you know what this is? 

Still changing goal posts i see. I think you are one of those people who just love to have a last word on internet and then pat themselves on the back for winning an argument. Now you create another strawman ignoring how you completely messed up here. Now you are talking about adding to a thread and addressing me when just few minutes back you couldn't even remember whom quoted whom first and you were telling me not to quote you if i had nothing to add to your points being made. /facepalm

Seriously dude make up your mind. Which one is it? 

Nope not at all.  And your the one that keep posting with out adding anything to the thread.  Perhaps you should try looking up some information about GW2 before posting.     

Norns and Humans look very similar,  to keep them from looking the same (just having a height difference).  It is nessary to limit the options in how you change the physical features.  This is a very logical reason for having limitied options.   Body shape is one of them.   

I never said i didn't quote you.  But your quote of me had nothing to do with what i said.  If you unable to read a post and talk about what is in that post....

And there he goes again about NORNS lol... hahahahaha!!!! no you clearly said 'why i quoted you in first place if i didn't stick to what you were saying' which i didn't. You did and thats where the discussion went down hill . Sad irony is that it is you who didn't stick to what i was saying and just completely dragged discussion off the rails.

So before you accuse me of not beign able to read..how about this..make sure when you quote someone you stick to what they are saying? thank you, that would be a great start and also some vitamins for your memory loss.

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by Kakkzooka

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by Kakkzooka

This article only proves one thing: ArenaNet doesn't write checks in exchange for positive previews. EA did.

The article is very positive..why the hell Anet needs to write check? or they already did based on positive article.

I don't think you even read the whole thing.

I'm being slightly facetious. I did read the article and it does turn out to be positive. But read this same reviewer's opinion of TOR - and if that doesn't make you go "Hmmmmmm," then I don't know what would.

 

Why he would start off with inanities about playing a female character and not having the choice to make an older woman, whereas when he reviewed TOR (a game that only gives you about eight different choices in character creation - there are carbon copies to the brim in SWTOR) there were no negatives mentioned. Particulary not about perceived shallow character choices.

That, objectively, is very suspicious.

You are just trying too hard to find faults here.  The character creating of GW2 is but a slight improvement especially for human race. Will it change in future or not who knows but his disliking of how human looks has nothing to do with TOR.

I think people who just hate TOR and pretty obsessed with it try to find connections even when they do not exist. Also expectations with GW2 are pretty high so i don't blame people for expecting a bit more out of character creation in GW2, isn't that what GW2 is all about? improving on existing features?

I like how GW2 fans deflect any criticism regarding GW2 towards TOR..as if it gives it a free pass.

Since when has GW2 been about improving on existing features?   It was not GW2 fans or people on this forum that dragged TOR into this, the author did, he is the one that was compairing the two.  While I do agree that the options in the character creation is lacking for some races.  I also understand that they are going for an artistic style, and thats the reason you have body types and not sliders.  This might also explain the lack of older, or perhaps ugly options.  They are really treating the game like an art project in terms of visuals.  So i am willing to have limmited options.  

He made but two obscure references to TOR. people need to read the whole article first. he would have said 'TOR' randomly in article somewhere and it would produce same result. Doesn't change the fact that article is very positive.

I am telling you what i have understood after reading the opinions of fans on these forums that GW2 is about improving and innovating the existing features. So yes GW2 will have to bear the brunt of these high expectations.

You can have artistic style and still have sliders. I don't even know how sliders make it less artistic.For first time i ever read that to make visuals an art project one has to be satisfied with limited options.

*scratches head*

Well since you don't understand.  

 

Norn and Humans have very similar looks.  If they gave us sliders it would make it possible to make a human look like a short Norn and a Norn look like a tall human.  This would break the artistic style they are doing.   By having body types they make sure that Norns don't just look like tall humans and humans don't look like just short Norns.  

You are talking about height and size of body and i am talking about over all customization while making your character.

I was talking about how with unlimited options in physical features (sliders) it would be possible to make a Norn look like a Human and a Human that looked like a Norn.  

Your the one that got obsessed with size and body height..  

This is the quote i was talking about.  

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

Originally posted by Chrome1980

Originally posted by TheYear1500

I was saying nothing about the authors points.  I have no reason too, he did that all himself.  Again go back and read the posts and don't just jump in at the end.  

So why did you even bother to quote me in first place? because i was talking about  over all lacking customization and not just the body sliders for size and height. 

 

wow your just sad.  I was never talking about sliders for size and height.  I said it over and over again that it was not about size and hight.  Perhaps you could go back and try reading.   

So you forgot after one page that you quoted me first even though i wasn't even talking to you? or shall i send you link to refresh your memory? i think i should since you are so irritating.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/347961/page/15

I love how you still are unable to read a post.  

And i love how you accuse me for quoting you first when it was indeed you who quoted me and went on an off tangent rant about body sliders and size of NORN. Which had nothign to do with what i was saying.

LOL i did address your post and i added to the thread.  Would making a new paragraph helped sure.

 

Its called adding to a thread perhaps you know what this is? 

Still changing goal posts i see. I think you are one of those people who just love to have a last word on internet and then pat themselves on the back for winning an argument. Now you create another strawman ignoring how you completely messed up here. Now you are talking about adding to a thread and addressing me when just few minutes back you couldn't even remember whom quoted whom first and you were telling me not to quote you if i had nothing to add to your points being made. /facepalm

Seriously dude make up your mind. Which one is it? 

Nope not at all.  And your the one that keep posting with out adding anything to the thread.  Perhaps you should try looking up some information about GW2 before posting.     

Norns and Humans look very similar,  to keep them from looking the same (just having a height difference).  It is nessary to limit the options in how you change the physical features.  This is a very logical reason for having limitied options.   Body shape is one of them.   

I never said i didn't quote you.  But your quote of me had nothing to do with what i said.  If you unable to read a post and talk about what is in that post....

And there he goes again about NORNS lol... hahahahaha!!!! no you clearly said 'why i quoted you in first place if i didn't stick to what you were saying' which i didn't. You did and thats where the discussion went down hill . Sad irony is that it is you who didn't stick to what i was saying and just completely dragged discussion off the rails.

So before you accuse me of not beign able to read..how about this..make sure when you quote someone you stick to what they are saying? thank you, that would be a great start and also some vitamins for your memory loss.

You do understand that Norns are in the game right?  And you are capable of understanding that when you have two races that look so similar it creates problems with customization correct?  I can understand if its over your head, its ok i am sure lots of things are.  

Originally posted by TheYear1500

I was talking about how with unlimited options in physical features (sliders) it would be possible to make a Norn look like a Human and a Human that looked like a Norn.  

Your the one that got obsessed with size and body height..  

 

This is the quote i was talking about.  

All great and good my NORN lover but i wasn't even talking about that in original post you quoted.

Originally posted by TheYear1500

You do understand that Norns are in the game right?  And you are capable of understanding that when you have two races that look so similar it creates problems with customization correct?  I can understand if its over your head, its ok i am sure lots of things are.  

 

Now you sound like a broken record. 

Originally posted by TheYear1500

So in other words your not going to answer the question?  

1)  they change the size of the weapons, so that they scale.  How about instead of changing the subject you answer the question.  How does it make any since having a FAT person jumping and running around?  

2) Does not matter since we will see both.  Does not matter what they do, it will happen.  That was my point.    

3) So again you want to add an unrealistic body typeas your the one that wants to add a FAT option.  So again how is this a good thing?  I never said they should keep them all skinny,  But how does adding a FAT option good?

Wow, are you just trolling now?

1) I answered your question. Just because someone is large does not mean they cannot fight. Even if it would be unrealistic... it is a fantasy game. Suspension of disbelief is fine for tiger people (Char) and dragons, but fat people is where you draw the line? Really? It is no more unrealistic than an 80 lb girl weilding a 100lb hammer or casting fireballs. To be fine with one but not the other is hypocritical and undermines your entire argument. 

2) Objectification of a sex compared to a simple annoyance DOES matter. They are not the same and I am not sure we can have a discussion if you think the objectification of women does not matter. 

3) Fat is not unrealistic... It is actually realistic. There are people of every size out there and you are presuming just because a person is large they cannot do something that you yourself probably have no real life experience with. Go to an SCA event and look at some of the fighters... There are plenty on the large size and many of them fight quite well and frankly hit like a truck. So this presumption that fat or large cannot possibly fight is a rather presumptive opinion. We could also delve into the many large characters that dot fictional tales both eastern and western.

Why exactly are you so against anything ugly or fat in a game?

I agree. I would love to see a character creator that lets you be fat (and many other "unconventional" shapes).