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General Discussion  » Swearing is now against the code of conduct..?

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  Sovrath

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4/19/12 3:51:43 PM#81
Originally posted by Praetalus

 

So if we were playing a game, and I said, "damn, that mob is f**cking (filtered for ya) huge!" You would report me?

 

What you guys seem to be missing is that "curse" words and slang have become part of everyday speach. I know what you mean about when and where to curse, and I of course agree; but gaming is down time. It's meant to be relaxing, to let off steam. Someone is not a bad person just because they say to another friend at the end of a long day... "man, this was a shitty f**cking day".  That's completely normal and an accepted way amoungst friends to get your point accross is it not? Is the person who said that some type of  ne'er do well that you should aviold at all cost and report to the authorities?

 

Also, just wondering, do you guys watch only PG or G rated movies? Or do you find it acceptable in that medium to use any language the writer sees fit?  When you're watching a movie and someone curses, do you turn it off?

 

You mentioned "socially acceptable" before. So I ask you this: Look around you. Look at the "R" rated movies, the language in video games such as Modern Warfare, look at the comics, look at the art, guess what> The lanuage you're so offended by is everywhere. It's rampant.  It is socially acceptable. 

well "no" I wouldn't report you. If you were going on and on and insulting people and swearing at them and letting us know how you just found your  li'l pee pee then "yes" I would.

As far as becoming part of everday speech; I think you should tell that to every company that I've ever worked for. Because if you swear under your breath or as a simple expletive then probably nothing. IF everything out of yoru mouth was profanity you woudl be fired.

This really is common sense. I have as filthy a mouth as the next person. In some cases "more",  I also seem to be accutely aware of when it's appropriate and when it's not. I'm not sure why this is hard for some?

Regardless of whether you think it's "just words", some people and organizations are going to judge you on how you present yourself. Sorry, that's life. Can it be hypocritical? Are the people judging you saints? "yes" and probably not. But when you go into your job interview, lay down some profanity and tell the HR Rep that they are just words and they are part of every day culture I would wonder whether you would be called back.

  Banisco

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4/19/12 3:56:58 PM#82

You cant swear in a game full of childs and prety ladies, you know, those who play elin and castanic...

  MMOarQQ

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4/19/12 6:04:04 PM#83

Swearing is something I'll engage in at the bar over a pint with some buddies (or on vent with the guys), but I'd find it shameful in any other social setting.

It's not a behavior anyone should be proudly displaying.

-2 cents

  EvilGeek

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4/19/12 6:18:37 PM#84

The whole issue of when is swearing acceptable is one of respect, I don't swear when I'm around people who aren't in my circle of friends, I respect the fact they might not like swearing, it's about manners, something that is also about respect and we don't see enough of. This whole thing about freedom of speech and imposing your language filter on me is just selfishness in my book, it's because you don't want to have to concern yourself with other peoples feelings about the language you use.

I come from a part of england where f**k is used every second word and much harsher words are used as a term of endearment but we were bought up to know when it's appropriate and when it isn't. I rate Tera for doing this it shows respect to those who don't want to see endless profanity in public chat. leave it to guild and party when you know it's around people who don't give a s**t. Show some respect, it's hardly an imposition unless you are incapable of expressing yourself in more eloquent ways.


  Thorkune

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4/19/12 7:21:38 PM#85
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Boatsmate

I'm retired from the US Navy, and I can carry on a conversation without swearing, and never do around people I don't know or may not want to hear that. I f I can do that, anyone can. Now drop and give me 30 for the Navy.

I was military too for 24 years and don't swear unless it's necessary (hammer on thumb). Not to stereotype but it seems kids nowadays have started swearing worse than sailors from the 50s. Not sure what brought it on but it may be our generations fault for not being able to whip the stuff out of them.  :D 

I was a member of the military and I used to be the most foul mouthed individual you would ever meet. But, the day my son was born, I stopped all profanity and have not used a curse word around him in 18 years. He leaves for the Marines in a few months and he can leave our home knowing that his dad never once cursed around him as a child. I have found that replacing curse words with normal phrases is quite easy. when I now get mad or "hammer on thumb" my word of choice is MAN!

I think society has grown too tolerant of a lot of things. If I am out with my family in a "family" type restaraunt and Someone is using foul language around them, I quickly address it. Public places are no place to show off your disrespectful vocabulary. I won't allow my wife to be subjected to it.

  Elikal

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4/19/12 7:25:51 PM#86

Goddammit, s'bloody saviour's beard!

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  Eir_S

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4/19/12 7:26:01 PM#87
Originally posted by bigsmiff

I was a member of the military and I used to be the most foul mouthed individual you would ever meet. But, the day my son was born, I stopped all profanity and have not used a curse word around him in 18 years. He leaves for the Marines in a few months and he can leave our home knowing that his dad never once cursed around him as a child. I have found that replacing curse words with normal phrases is quite easy. when I now get mad or "hammer on thumb" my word of choice is MAN!

That is quite the display of willpower, good sir.

  MMOarQQ

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4/19/12 7:26:23 PM#88
Originally posted by bigsmiff
If I am out with my family in a "family" type restaraunt and Someone is using fould language around them, I quickly address it. Public places are no place to show off your disrespectful vocabulary. I won't allow my wife to be subjected to it.

 

Good for you man. More people today need to take a stand.

  User Deleted
4/19/12 7:32:04 PM#89

  I like the quotes (unattributed)

 

 "Profanity is for those who lack the creativity and intelligence to otherwise express themselves. "

and

 "Profanity is used by simple minds trying to express simple thought "

 

  Well done on En Masse!

  Rhoklaw

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4/19/12 7:35:00 PM#90
Originally posted by bigsmiff
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Boatsmate

I'm retired from the US Navy, and I can carry on a conversation without swearing, and never do around people I don't know or may not want to hear that. I f I can do that, anyone can. Now drop and give me 30 for the Navy.

I was military too for 24 years and don't swear unless it's necessary (hammer on thumb). Not to stereotype but it seems kids nowadays have started swearing worse than sailors from the 50s. Not sure what brought it on but it may be our generations fault for not being able to whip the stuff out of them.  :D 

I was a member of the military and I used to be the most foul mouthed individual you would ever meet. But, the day my son was born, I stopped all profanity and have not used a curse word around him in 18 years. He leaves for the Marines in a few months and he can leave our home knowing that his dad never once cursed around him as a child. I have found that replacing curse words with normal phrases is quite easy. when I now get mad or "hammer on thumb" my word of choice is MAN!

I think society has grown too tolerant of a lot of things. If I am out with my family in a "family" type restaraunt and Someone is using fould language around them, I quickly address it. Public places are no place to show off your disrespectful vocabulary. I won't allow my wife to be subjected to it.

Greetings gentlemen, active duty army medic here and all I can say on the subject of swearing is this. Cursing, swearing or cussing is a means to amplify ones current feelings or frustrations usually. For instance, you decided to replace swearing with MAN!

Granted, MAN! is a very general term, but all your doing it substituting a common word for a curse word in order to accomplish the same thing. I'm not saying thats pointless approach, but language is nothing more then a means to communicate. So despite the use of profanity every other word, like some folks may do, it's more about who they are, not what they say. For instance, I could create a brand new word, which happens a lot nowadays and set it to mean the same thing as a curse word, like Jaggal. Now, set Jaggal to mean the same thing as a commonly spoken curse word and we are right back to square one. Sure, not everyone is going to know what you mean when you say Jaggal but if it catches on, who knows. That's how curse words got started in the first place.

Anyways, a lot of people curse way too much. I know I do curse, not a lot, but I do curse. Mainly because I'm surrounded by idiots all day and they frustrate the heck out of me. So yeah, not sure what this post even accomplished but hope someone enjoys it.

  svann

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4/19/12 7:43:58 PM#91

"We reserve the right to refuse service to fucktards"

  Buttski

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4/20/12 3:25:58 AM#92

main playerbase is mainly kids (~14 yrs).

ofc you shouldn't swear there.

  Xasapis

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4/20/12 3:30:17 AM#93
Originally posted by Buttski

main playerbase is mainly kids (~14 yrs).

ofc you shouldn't swear there.

I find that hard to believe for an M game. Perhaps the odd tenager here and there sure, but the majority are adults, as will the majority of mmorpg players.

  Slampig

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4/20/12 3:41:29 AM#94
Originally posted by Cakeisyummeh

Also! 

When the game launches, does everyone start out on the island as a level twenty then convert back to a level one?

 

I think that's kinda annoying.. People will just do that to check out classes now instead of trying themselves ><

Huh?

That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!

  Ichmen

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4/20/12 3:48:50 AM#95

this might be new but umm.. online games that have a ToS and RoC tend to make it pretty clear, swearing is not allowed.. while most games do not go so far as to add filter programs (which never really work as intended... "hello GM i need ******* " for example; when the filter takes out proper english do to 1 or more letters in a string.. [assistance]...ugh)

i personally dont see a problem with filters, other then the fact they never work.. or are way too touchy that you say Hello im nuts and you get filtered. 

given Tera is developed by an asian company, most likely its a carry over from their localization. as alot of asian  games now days have filters or something :/ that i have run across.

while i swear at randomly i personally do find it hard to carry on a conversation with someone who is flipping out over really pointless things (raid wipe, NPC quest log mess up.. ect.)

but to ask if its NOW against a RoC or ToS for Tera or any game... kinda pointless when it generally is :/

 

i dont like censors or filters but its generally required at somepoint ...

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  troublmaker

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4/20/12 3:57:24 AM#96

If you're just saying something like "effin eh" no one is going to report you and no one is going to really mind your use of language.

If you are chewing someone out because you're so much better than him and he's skill-less... than you are more likely to get reported.

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  Ikonoclastia

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4/20/12 6:06:29 AM#97
Originally posted by Cakeisyummeh
Originally posted by Boatsmate

I'm retired from the US Navy, and I can carry on a conversation without swearing, and never do around people I don't know or may not want to hear that. I f I can do that, anyone can. Now drop and give me 30 for the Navy.

I really don't care if you can talk without swearing :P good for you ^^

 

All I'm saying is that it's annoying that we're being filtered, it'd be nice to be able to say what I want.

Freedom of speech doesn't give you the right to say what you want.  It gives you the right to voice an opinion.  If you can do so without swearing but you choose to swear then you can be punished for that if there is a punishment prescribed for using swear words.

I'm sure most of us would like to be able to say and do what we want, however unfortunately most of us cannot, its called life and we must learn to live with it.

  Kehdar

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4/20/12 7:08:59 AM#98

Guys are you really comparing a profanity filter to censorship?

This look to me as an insult to all those who have and will suffer from real censorship. 

I don't care for profanity filters in games, they are usually the first thing I disable, but when i play a game i know that i must submit to the rules of that game. In the case of TERA i turned of the area chat altogher.

You can choose not to play that game, come here and post on this forum complaining about those rules. That's is the freedom you are entitled too. If you are suggesting that developers/publishers should be prohibited to enforce the rules they see fit in their games, you are actually the one trying to limit their freedom in their own game.

More on topic, there are some players who have fun just spam profanity and insulting everyone on general chat (I'm not talking about OP of course), I'm sorry but I really don't see this as a display of freedom, I usually go with the old old good saying "my freedom ends where yours begins", you may want to swear all the time I may don't want to hear swearing all the time. So it's just common sense and education trying to avoid bad words in a public chat.

  JTST83

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4/20/12 7:54:30 AM#99

For the record, Swearing isn't a freedom of speech issue, in fact, other peoples right trump your right to swear.

 

In other words, you're not allowed to swear if it offends someone else because then you're encroaching on their rights.

  Dirkzen

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4/20/12 9:08:35 AM#100

I think its kinda funny how much i'm hearing this 'freedom of speech' thing about a game thats based in Korea.  ..lol.. just sayin.

 

Anyhow.  Congrats to Tera for keeping thier game from turning into Xbox live. 

Its gonna be funny as crap listening to someone try to troll or argue with another player without resorting to swearing.

I'm really looking forward to this.  :)

 

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