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  Talonsin

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OP  4/05/12 8:49:27 AM#1

A few red flags have been triggered by this recent annoucnement of life time subs.

1. The game currently does not have any beta at the moment, beta invites go out sometime this month but the game launches on June 19th.  Seems like a very short beta and not enough time to correct the issues that are identified in beta.

2. The lifetime sub being thrown out before a beta and at a cost just a hair above the one year price.

3. The current gameplay videos look clunky.  I understand some may be older but you would think that right before an annoucement for pre-orders you would release some of your best videos to entice people into buying.

4. The cash shop is being built in from the start with pets and inventory space leading me to believe that F2P is a viable option that FunCom has as a backup plan after the inital launch. 

 

I was really excited about this one and was thinking of grabbing the life time sub but now I am seriously rethinking it.

  User Deleted
4/05/12 8:52:51 AM#2
Originally posted by Talonsin

A few red flags have been triggered by this recent annoucnement of life time subs.

1. The game currently does not have any beta at the moment, beta invites go out sometime this month but the game launches on June 19th.  Seems like a very short beta and not enough time to correct the issues that are identified in beta.

2. The lifetime sub being thrown out before a beta and at a cost just a hair above the one year price.

3. The current gameplay videos look clunky.  I understand some may be older but you would think that right before an annoucement for pre-orders you would release some of your best videos to entice people into buying.

4. The cash shop is being built in from the start with pets and inventory space leading me to believe that F2P is a viable option that FunCom has as a backup plan after the inital launch. 

 

I was really excited about this one and was thinking of grabbing the life time sub but now I am seriously rethinking it.

EA = auto red flag.

 

 

  Vesavius

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4/05/12 8:53:51 AM#3

I haven't been following this yet... but...

No large scale beta testing and yet they are already selling the game and life time memberships?

ouch ><

That's NEVER a good sign.

  Keyh

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4/05/12 8:54:49 AM#4

1. They've had several beta phases before this, it's not like this will be the first beta phase that they do...

2. Again, they've had plenty of beta phases before now, and from what I hear,  the lifetime sub will be available well into the launch life of the game.

3. I don't see what you see. The only problems I've seen are some of the animations. Maybe you're looking at GDC 2011 videos?

4. And?

  DarkPony

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4/05/12 8:55:55 AM#5

Funcom, y u so mani red falgs?

  User Deleted
4/05/12 8:58:09 AM#6
Originally posted by DarkPony

Funcom, y u so mani red falgs?

LOL

 

What happened to your sig? It was classic!

  Sevenwind

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4/05/12 8:59:33 AM#7

There has been a closed beta going for quite awhile. They acknowledged that. They did Rise of the Godslayer the same way. I didn't get into closed beta till a month before it went into public beta and only then did I see the patch notes and forums from people went back several months.

As for lifetime subscription, if it does turn out to go F2P then I hope Funcom will do like other games that offered lifetime subs and give players that purchased a monthly stipen of points. But like LOTRO those that paid lifetime subs you basically paid for two years of service and that time has come and gone. So they push that marketplace into your face a lot now to everyone.

I'm sure you'll get into the beta, either closed or public beta as it gets close to release so you can make a decision if you want to buy a lifetime sub. I think they even said the offer would be good even shortly after release.

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  Thane

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4/05/12 8:59:45 AM#8

haters gonna hate.

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  DarkPony

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4/05/12 9:01:03 AM#9
Originally posted by TROLL_HARD
Originally posted by DarkPony

Funcom, y u so mani red falgs?

LOL

 

What happened to your sig? It was classic!

It ate 10 gigs of bandwith in a week or so. So the photobucket people got real angry and shut it down and now they are trying to sell me a premium account for unlimited bandwith V_V

 

  User Deleted
4/05/12 9:01:57 AM#10

I'm glad I saw it. I shall remember.

  Torqia

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4/05/12 9:02:22 AM#11

Honestly. Im surprised that funcoms history (read AoC launch) isnt on your red flag list. I can tell you its nr. 1 on mine:)

But when ever i see Life Time sub i allways think of Hellgate and run away screeming, so im gonna watch this one from safe distance and hope for the best.

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  Nitth

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4/05/12 9:03:28 AM#12


1. The game currently does not have any beta at the moment, beta invites go out sometime this month but the game launches on June 19th.  Seems like a very short beta and not enough time to correct the issues that are identified in beta.
Game Currently is undergoing a closed beta.


2. The lifetime sub being thrown out before a beta and at a cost just a hair above the one year price.

Offer is extended upto and after games official release.


3. The current gameplay videos look clunky.  I understand some may be older but you would think that right before an annoucement for pre-orders you would release some of your best videos to entice people into buying.

Im sure the marketing machine will continue to speed up right till release

4. The cash shop is being built in from the start with pets and inventory space leading me to believe that F2P is a viable option that FunCom has as a backup plan after the inital launch.

Whats exactly wrong with having a Contingency plan? 


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  Kyleran

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4/05/12 9:07:24 AM#13

C'mon, you pair up Funcom with EA and you just know there's going to be some shenanigans.

Sort of like pairing up bad and evil. 

Definitely won't be pre-ordering.

 

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  Darth_Osor

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4/05/12 9:09:07 AM#14
Originally posted by Kyleran

C'mon, you pair up Funcom with EA and you just know there's going to be some shenanigan's?

Sort of like pairing up bad and evil. 

Definitely won't be pre-ordering.

 

Could you imagine Cryptic and Funcom pairing up?

Edit:  I don't think EA has anything to do with the LTS or cash shop.  SWTOR doesn't have either, and EA has to pay  royalties to Lucas Arts.  I think the sub+cash shop is all Funcom's doing.

  Hurvart

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4/05/12 9:09:37 AM#15

Normally if they sell life time subs it means the game will be F2P shortly after release. They do that to boost profit and grab more money.

I dont think I would trust anything funcom is doing anyway. And I doubt they can release a quality game. Most of the players will probably leave after the first month.

  Rayshe

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4/05/12 9:14:31 AM#16

If Funcom was marketing this game as The next Big game or a WoW killer then i would have red flags. they really aren't. its like they are saying "this game will be what it is" they took their time in release, they held off excessive Marketing, the only thing they promised was new ideas.

 

the Funcom games i have played i have enjoyed. sure their launches suck, all launches suck. However i have complete faith that if the game isnt up to snuff at launch, it will be a month or 2 down the road.

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  User Deleted
4/05/12 11:23:23 AM#17

You shouldn't be, unless you invested in their stock, in which case.. I'm sorry.

I think this might be funcoms final endeavor.

Generally funcom products are hyped to all hell, but this one.. this one is shrouded in so much secrecy...

 

Contrast the gameplay footage from this game with that from AoC before it was released. This game could be the next big thing to hit the fan since STO... .well.. maybe not as big, since no major IP is behind it.

Still, it's sad to see a company go under and one that was among the original companies to put the genre on the map.

 

  ButeoRegalis

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4/05/12 11:32:08 AM#18
Originally posted by Talonsin

(snip)

1. The game currently does not have any beta at the moment, beta invites go out sometime this month but the game launches on June 19th.  Seems like a very short beta and not enough time to correct the issues that are identified in beta.

(snip)

In this day and age, we are probably shifting away from the use of open beta as a bug-finding tool to open beta as a marketing tool.

See GW2. "Press beta"? Really? You think ANet is using the press to look for bugs? Nope, it's a demo, alright.

  Zekiah

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4/05/12 11:35:20 AM#19

I'm right there with ya. I've been researching this game for a couple of days and although I like the concept I just can't justify dropping a dime on it.

It looks shallow and incomplete.

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  ethion

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4/05/12 8:57:34 PM#20

I like the game concept and what I've seen of it but no way I'm buying a funcom game on preorder.  They have historically had 1 aweful launchs and 2 incomplete games where the first 20 levels of aoc were awesome but the rest was be comparison poor and not complete.  No beta is bad news also.  yeah yeah I know they have closed beta but seriously have you ever really seen a beta that didn't have leaks.  For SW there aren't any leaks from beta testers.  That tells me they have a very small beta...

I'm hoping the 3rd times the charm.  I like the game concept.  I've preordered every prior funcom game and been disappointed.  This time I'm not gonna put faith in them.  I'll wait till the game is released or at least the beta feedback starts coming out.

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