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World of WarPlanes is the latest entry into the MMO-space by Wargaming.net. During the recent Game Developer's Conference, we had a chance to check out WoWP and to talk with the team about this highly anticipated title. See what we found out!
Read more of Som Pourfarzaneh's World of WarPlanes: GDC 2012 Preview. Associate Editor: MMORPG.com |
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3/23/12 7:27:01 AM#2
They won't ever get into e-sports until they balance russian vehicles with other vehicles. There has been a bias towards russian stuff since day one closed beta. |
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3/23/12 7:40:36 AM#3
But premium ammo does disturb the game balance........... I'm taking a shot of vodka every time I see a reference to a game being a WoW or Diablo clone. |
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3/23/12 8:06:28 AM#4
Yeah the russians are imbalanced due to the bias of the devs who are ya russian. |
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3/23/12 8:20:24 AM#5
VVVVVrrrooooooooaaaarrrrrrrrr .... TAK TAK TAK TAK TAK .... VRrrrrrrrrrrrrrooooo .... Pssssheeeew, psssheeeww ... Brings back a lot of Secret Weapons of The Luftwaffe memories from 17 years ago. (Or maybe I'm just becoming senile). |
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MMOarQQ
Novice Member
Joined: 2/20/12
"Against stupidity the very gods themselves contend in vain." |
3/23/12 8:30:07 AM#6
Am I the only guy who checks out these "Previews" expecting some video? wtf... |
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3/23/12 8:53:45 AM#7
No, you're not the only one.
As for the Russians being imbalanced. I can say that in World of Tanks, for the longest time, Russian armor has always been the top dog in any match. IS-3, IS-4, IS-7, SU-152, ISU 152, Object.704, their Object 212 artillery etc etc. They always pack the most punch, but on paper they have relatively 22% less penetration of German or American guns. The deal is however, that Russian armor generally sits MUCH lower to the ground with their gun. Meaning, Russian armor's penetration values are, on average, MUCH higher than listed on paper. Where as Germans, Ameircans, and now French tanks have to deal with steeper angles from their turret's higher sitting angle compared to Russian Armor. This isn't even close to balanced. If it WERE balanced, they wouldn't have had to nerf German armor across the board by roughly 46% in effectiveness. German Armor is relatively the best in the front (only has changed in the past 4months from when they used to be almost the same as Russian), but their guns are known as the least hardest hitting, and "bounce" the most regardless of their supposed "Higher" penetration values for their guns.
All in all, I don't trust the World of Tanks biased Russian devs. They constantly claim its just in the player's head, but when we play the game more than they do and WE see the imbalancend nature of the game it really gets to you.
Oh, let's not even go into how BADLY Artillery is OverPowered and completely imbalanced in WoT atm either. /shiver The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity: |
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3/23/12 9:00:08 AM#8
Originally posted by Yizle Big suprise, most of the money comes from Russia also. Bigger issue is the fact that this flight game has absolutly nothing to do with real flying! Well no suprise really, WoT was as close to tank battle as Call of Duty is to real war. Sadly raise of F2P trend means there won't any good realistic war games coming in future. Hopefully Arma3 and IL-2 future versions would bring some MMO features to multiplayer. |
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3/23/12 9:01:55 AM#9
Is it just me or does world of Warplanes sound like its going to be a great game??.....I enjoyed world of tanks for het most part, though I spent alot of time just sitting in brush cover.....We wont be able to do that in the air as easily.....I jsut hope they can bring us a fairly well balanced game. |
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3/23/12 9:16:17 AM#10
Originally posted by Yizle But Russian WWII tanks were actually superior, so they could get away with it to some degree.
But if you start seeing Yak-9's and Mig-3 kicking around Fw-190's and Ta-152's. That will be a hard pill to swallow.
IL-2 was a great game, but man, those ruskies had no sense of reality when it came to their Russian planes. I totally dominated in PvP in my little La-5. Yet could'nt even bank hard in my Mustang without going into a full stall. National pride is a bit "overblown" in the minds of many Russians. |
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3/23/12 9:23:11 AM#11
I went Premium on my World of Tanks account when it was released. I quickly realized how biased the gameplay was towards the Russian line of tanks though, so I stopped putting money into the game. Now i just play it for sh*ts and giggles while I wait for downloads. "The problem with quotes from the Internet is that it's almost impossible to validate their authenticity." - Abraham Lincoln |
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3/23/12 10:06:46 AM#12
"WOT is just the most amazing game ever and WoWP will be just as incredulous incredibly! Why it will have more online people concurrently than a real mmo like eve! Thats just absolutely incredibly! That's how the WoT devs sound to me. |
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3/23/12 10:59:52 AM#13
You need to brush up on your history of WWII if you think Russian tanks were superior. |
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3/23/12 11:09:41 AM#14
Will World of Planes and World of Tanks be integrated? Otherwise they have missed a trick if you ask me. |
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3/23/12 11:26:04 AM#15
"you'll be able to use microtransactions to purchase premium ammo and camouflages that won't disturb the game balance, as well as enhanced XP and currency buffs." This quote shows complete misunderstanding of the gameplay. Sorry guys, premium ammo heavily disturbs the game balance. If the game plays the same way as WOT, they will bump up what was a very weak Russian airforce to being the best planes in the game. Germans had by far the best tanks in WWII, while the US had by far the best planes, so this not a historical representation at all. They also don't even have the British in the game.
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3/23/12 12:18:30 PM#16
No, YOU need to brush up on YOUR history. When the germans captured their first T-34 tank, they were amazed at how the supposedly inferior Russians had constructed a tank that was superior to what they had at that time. What made the Germans so effective was their use of the radio to coordinate their tactics. The Germans began to pull away at the end of the war, but that was because Hitler insisted on pushing development of expensive, difficult to produce weaponry that was impossible to field effectively. There were German tanks, that while awesome fighting machines on paper, sunk into the ground under their own weight. Not so sure I would call that "superior". |
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ZoeMcCloskey
Elite Member
Joined: 7/14/05
INTJ, polite but difficult to be friends with :P |
3/23/12 12:24:14 PM#17
I love WoT but I do wish that premium ammo was not allowed in regular matches, save it for the clanwars epeen stuff. Russian tanks taken as a whole, to me at least are not extremely OP. Some tanks, IS-4 specifically are wayyy strong but IS-4 is getting moved to T10 also. The TDs do get stronger guns sooner but they have armor that bounces basically nothing. So if you get found out, you are dead, wheras a Ferdinand, Jagdtiger, T28, T95 do have the armor to stick around fight some more. Not saying ISU-152 and Obj704 aren't scary though :) I do think on the Russian/German subject though that the E-75 was given too many soft spots to hit in front and the IS-4 basically has no soft spots. If any tank line is currenly screwed it is American high tier heavies, but that is changing soon. |
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ZoeMcCloskey
Elite Member
Joined: 7/14/05
INTJ, polite but difficult to be friends with :P |
3/23/12 12:28:08 PM#18
Yes, the T-34 was the overall "best tank" of WW2, that is a pretty common opinion across the board. Really some of the French tanks were better than the German tanks, it is just that Germany mastered the tactics of using armor and that goes a long way. Imagine handing 10 really advanced rifles to 10 people who have never seen a rifle, give them no training. Then hand an inferior rifle to some really well trained master rifleman type, watch what happens :P Tanks are also just tools/machines, so operators make the most difference in their effectiveness, not tech. Germans used tanks best, especially early on, but that doesn't mean their tanks were best. |
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3/23/12 12:29:41 PM#19
Originally posted by Bunks A T-34 didn't really have a fair fight against a Tiger, what made the russian tanks so good was that they were a lot faster to produce and many times so easy to learn to handle. So superior isn't fair, in 1 Vs 1 a German tank was better but it wasn't 1 Vs 1, it was 10 Vs 1 or more. The Germans focused on quality and that does not always win a war (particularly when you have politicians that lay hinders in the way for the generals). With fighterplanes the problem was that Stalin hated flying and had all his airo engineers locked in in a camp and never really were motivated. As you said, Il-2 was their masterpiece until Korea when they invented they invented the brilliant Mig-15 that suddenly made all US planes look like junk. I am still very happy with what I read though, they are adding WW1 planes as well, before they talked about WW2 and Korea, but all the really cool planes and amazing pilots were in WW1. But German planes and pilots were best in both Wars even if French and English were pretty close in WW1. There is a reason that the first 112 pilots with most kills in WW2 were Germans followed by a Fin, and it wasn´t just superior planes but also tactics. I am happy as long as I get my Albatross DIII. :) |
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3/23/12 12:52:38 PM#20
Originally posted by Loke666 History is one of my expertiese, so I don't need to brush up too much.(not you lokey but the funny guy above)
The T-34 was a medium tank and was an early designed tank. so it is only fair to compare gun penetration, armor thickness, reliability, production speed ect. of like models and years of production. 42 v 42 and so on. The panther and tiger didn't score its first combat hour till Kursk 43. The T-34 was already in its 3rd revision at that point. The t-34 was the equal to the Pz-II & Pz-III models. And it was superior in every way. Even the later Panthers & Tigers were inferior to JS-I and JS-II(compared by wieght and year of production). JS-II was all but immune to the standard 88mm , yet the JS-II 122mm cut through a Panther's armor quite easily. The main difference between the two sides were tactics and command control. Germany had a far superior C&C over their Russian counterparts.
As for the air wars, yes german pilots were dominating. But watch out for these russian devs, they tend to make their "national" icons more from a fantasy perspective. If you like DIII, ever try Rise of Flight? Awesom game, and its free if you just want to fly a Spad-XIII |
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