uhm, not so sure about it, couple of points:

1-to the ones asking is gonna cost more than a monthly P2P sub? yes (for the player actually paying of course), that's y every company is starting to "develop" cash shops, they get more money

2-The EVE comparison...well isn't such a great move, PLEXes made a nicely balanced player driven market a bit (not so bit) less balanced, and opened the door to CCP's cashshop (monocle-gate anyone?) , on a side note didn't eliminate RMT at all..

3- is it P2W? that's not so easy to say, 'cause everyone has his own interpretation of "win", but i'd say almost everything (speaking of gaming or other real life issues) that depends on money is P2W, back on the game, no way for me to say if it will be actually P2W now, but surely opens a lot of doors to it.

My personal consideration is, players like me, who work all day , so can't spend 8hrs/day playing/farming, and aren't rich, so can't buy load of stuff from cash shops...we'll get the "short stick"

is it something shocking or wrong?not really, is how RL mostly works, point is:

for them (developers) is a work, for us (players) should be a game

bye

Originally posted by Melangel

Originally posted by gainesvilleg

I was once on the bandwagon for GW2.  Over the last several months I wavered on and off the bandwagon as new details emerged.  There was always the cash shop hanging over this but people assured me Anet would never implement a F2P style cash shop, so I hadn't really concerned myself over it until their "manifesto" change a couple months ago.  Then I got a little worried but people said "Hey it will be fine.  Anet is in it for us the gamers"

Now as the details emerge and Anet changes their philosophy AGAIN on the cash shop, it is WAY WORSE than even the biggest pessimists were saying.  Even the "haters" a few months ago had no idea the cash shop would be this crass.  Anet doesn't really even try to hide it anymore, which shows this is now a lost cause.  They will never change their tune now.

This may go down as maybe the biggest letdown in MMO history.  A once promising game spoiled by greed and a "game built around the microtransaction concept."  One "hater" summed it up best.  They should call it "GW2:  The online store"

It's over...

 

gainesvilleg you could have been typing out of my own brain just then :) As I said in my other post I had other reasons also but I think this was the tipping point in my decision.It threw me off the bandwagon probably for good. Still I hope it succeeds for those that don't mind and who still love the game regardless, my other half included.

I wish GW2 well....but it isn't for me based on ARenaNet discloures over past month. I don't want to pay vastly more than NA people for a game or have a launch cash shop. Nope, no GW2 for me this summer it will be SWTOR and Diablo3.

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Originally posted by Illyssia

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Originally posted by Melangel

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Originally posted by gainesvilleg


I was once on the bandwagon for GW2.  Over the last several months I wavered on and off the bandwagon as new details emerged.  There was always the cash shop hanging over this but people assured me Anet would never implement a F2P style cash shop, so I hadn't really concerned myself over it until their "manifesto" change a couple months ago.  Then I got a little worried but people said "Hey it will be fine.  Anet is in it for us the gamers"
Now as the details emerge and Anet changes their philosophy AGAIN on the cash shop, it is WAY WORSE than even the biggest pessimists were saying.  Even the "haters" a few months ago had no idea the cash shop would be this crass.  Anet doesn't really even try to hide it anymore, which shows this is now a lost cause.  They will never change their tune now.
This may go down as maybe the biggest letdown in MMO history.  A once promising game spoiled by greed and a "game built around the microtransaction concept."  One "hater" summed it up best.  They should call it "GW2:  The online store"
It's over...
 

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gainesvilleg you could have been typing out of my own brain just then :) As I said in my other post I had other reasons also but I think this was the tipping point in my decision.It threw me off the bandwagon probably for good. Still I hope it succeeds for those that don't mind and who still love the game regardless, my other half included.

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I wish GW2 well....but it isn't for me based on ARenaNet discloures over past month. I don't want to pay vastly more than NA people for a game or have a launch cash shop. Nope, no GW2 for me this summer it will be SWTOR and Diablo3.

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I remember when ANet started releasing video footage of the different classes on it's website. One by one over time.
I'd watch with excitement. I remember emailing my brother the link with the only text in the subject line, "No sub Fees!"

Now...It's looking like a pass. Idunno yet.

Cash Shop as a quick cut over in game play always is a hard one for gamers to swallow. The hi price of CE is another one I am angry over. Let's face it everyone this is sort of typical from NCsoft, though, I just think that as with Aion they don't get the EU market with GW2 at all.