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  Kaocan

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Joined: 8/18/09
Posts: 1312

The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.

3/21/12 3:03:35 PM#61
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by Kaocan

Oh hey, I almost forgot. SWTOR has passed by the 3 month mark as of yesterday. All those people back then who said it would be dead and gone by now, and who gave thier word to come back at the 3 month mark and appolige to everyone for being wrong....well...I'm waiting. Afterall you did give your word.

 

You might do better if you name those individuals, although that would require evidence of who they are rather than a generalised comment.

I could go back and search these forums and find thier posts sure. I guess I could come out and single them out by name. But you know as well as I do if I do that the only thing they will do is report me for personal attacks and the post will be deleted by a mod and I'll get 3 days off. :) Again, if they have any honor in thier own word, they will do what they said they would. I shouldn't have to call them out to do it. They know who they are. 

I have a couple emails saved on here for a couple of them, the rest are in posts on these forums where they openly stated they would. Its there, not a generalized comment. Trust me, they know who they are. And again, like I said already, I dont honestly expect ANY of them to do what they gave thier word on.

(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)

  darkehawke

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Joined: 11/03/10
Posts: 180

3/21/12 3:05:35 PM#62
Originally posted by bigsmiff
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Kaocan
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Kaocan

Oh hey, I almost forgot. SWTOR has passed by the 3 month mark as of yesterday. All those people back then who said it would be dead and gone by now, and who gave thier word to come back at the 3 month mark and appolige to everyone for being wrong....well...I'm waiting. Afterall you did give your word.

well the servers are dead :P

Wrong, nice try though. Spin Spin Spin all you want, game is still there. Its ok though, I dont honestly expect any of those that promissed to actually do what they said they would. 

I'm wrong? how can i be wrong when i log in and see no-one pray tell?

even when i travel around to various planets and see the numbers in single figures?

its not spin, its fact, but fact based only on my server. so please dont accuse me of lying when i'm still logging onto what is essentially a dead server

Sith Wyrm server is doing fine. But, I am sure someone will post a link to one of those "accurate" server population sites though.

well thats great, but not all servers are maintaining their players. There are more than a few that have the same story as mine. 

 

Currently playing- SWG PreCU & GW 2
Have tried WoW, AoC, & Vanguard, SWG:NGE, GW, LOTRO & SWTOR
Best MMO: SWG
Worst MMO: SWTOR

  agriffin85

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Joined: 9/03/07
Posts: 67

3/21/12 3:07:26 PM#63
Originally posted by Kaocan

Oh hey, I almost forgot. SWTOR has passed by the 3 month mark as of yesterday. All those people back then who said it would be dead and gone by now, and who gave thier word to come back at the 3 month mark and appolige to everyone for being wrong....well...I'm waiting. Afterall you did give your word.

 

If you're going to call those people out, don't forget to call out all those people who said "The game just got released, give it a few months and it will be working great!"

  Kaocan

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Joined: 8/18/09
Posts: 1312

The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.

3/21/12 3:07:36 PM#64
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by bigsmiff
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Kaocan
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Kaocan

Oh hey, I almost forgot. SWTOR has passed by the 3 month mark as of yesterday. All those people back then who said it would be dead and gone by now, and who gave thier word to come back at the 3 month mark and appolige to everyone for being wrong....well...I'm waiting. Afterall you did give your word.

well the servers are dead :P

Wrong, nice try though. Spin Spin Spin all you want, game is still there. Its ok though, I dont honestly expect any of those that promissed to actually do what they said they would. 

I'm wrong? how can i be wrong when i log in and see no-one pray tell?

even when i travel around to various planets and see the numbers in single figures?

its not spin, its fact, but fact based only on my server. so please dont accuse me of lying when i'm still logging onto what is essentially a dead server

Sith Wyrm server is doing fine. But, I am sure someone will post a link to one of those "accurate" server population sites though.

well thats great, but not all servers are maintaining their players. There are more than a few that have the same story as mine. 

 

Again, its not what you say, but how you say it. You said "servers are dead", isnt' that what you said? Last I checked my server isnt dead, this person here says his server isnt dead, so obviously they are not ALL DEAD AND GONE BEFORE THE 3 MONTH MARK...now are they?

 

(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)

  Kaocan

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Joined: 8/18/09
Posts: 1312

The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.

3/21/12 3:08:55 PM#65
Originally posted by agriffin85
Originally posted by Kaocan

Oh hey, I almost forgot. SWTOR has passed by the 3 month mark as of yesterday. All those people back then who said it would be dead and gone by now, and who gave thier word to come back at the 3 month mark and appolige to everyone for being wrong....well...I'm waiting. Afterall you did give your word.

 

If you're going to call those people out, don't forget to call out all those people who said "The game just got released, give it a few months and it will be working great!"

I could if I asked them back then if they would come back in 3 months and appologize for being wrong. But alas, I did not think to ask them for the same promiss at that time. I am sorry, I will remember to do that on the next game...GW2 is coming up, maybe I can do it  on that one. Acceptable?

 

Hey all I'm for it really, personally I think EVERYONE should be held accountable for everything they say in public. If they get caught telling BS, they should be held to account for it, either for a game or against it, doesn't matter to me. :)

(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)

  darkehawke

Novice Member

Joined: 11/03/10
Posts: 180

3/21/12 3:10:02 PM#66
Originally posted by Kaocan
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by bigsmiff
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Kaocan
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Kaocan

Oh hey, I almost forgot. SWTOR has passed by the 3 month mark as of yesterday. All those people back then who said it would be dead and gone by now, and who gave thier word to come back at the 3 month mark and appolige to everyone for being wrong....well...I'm waiting. Afterall you did give your word.

well the servers are dead :P

Wrong, nice try though. Spin Spin Spin all you want, game is still there. Its ok though, I dont honestly expect any of those that promissed to actually do what they said they would. 

I'm wrong? how can i be wrong when i log in and see no-one pray tell?

even when i travel around to various planets and see the numbers in single figures?

its not spin, its fact, but fact based only on my server. so please dont accuse me of lying when i'm still logging onto what is essentially a dead server

Sith Wyrm server is doing fine. But, I am sure someone will post a link to one of those "accurate" server population sites though.

well thats great, but not all servers are maintaining their players. There are more than a few that have the same story as mine. 

 

Again, its not what you say, but how you say it. You said "servers are dead", isnt' that what you said? Last I checked my server isnt dead, this person here says his server isnt dead, so obviously they are not ALL DEAD AND GONE BEFORE THE 3 MONTH MARK...now are they?

 

my apologies

i assumed the tongue out smiley may have illustrated how my comment was slightly tongue in cheek

next time i may put a disclaimer in to avoid future panties getting in a twist :P

Currently playing- SWG PreCU & GW 2
Have tried WoW, AoC, & Vanguard, SWG:NGE, GW, LOTRO & SWTOR
Best MMO: SWG
Worst MMO: SWTOR

  RefMinor

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Joined: 7/16/11
Posts: 3448

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3/21/12 3:10:08 PM#67
Originally posted by Kaocan
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by bigsmiff
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Kaocan
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Kaocan

Oh hey, I almost forgot. SWTOR has passed by the 3 month mark as of yesterday. All those people back then who said it would be dead and gone by now, and who gave thier word to come back at the 3 month mark and appolige to everyone for being wrong....well...I'm waiting. Afterall you did give your word.

well the servers are dead :P

Wrong, nice try though. Spin Spin Spin all you want, game is still there. Its ok though, I dont honestly expect any of those that promissed to actually do what they said they would. 

I'm wrong? how can i be wrong when i log in and see no-one pray tell?

even when i travel around to various planets and see the numbers in single figures?

its not spin, its fact, but fact based only on my server. so please dont accuse me of lying when i'm still logging onto what is essentially a dead server

Sith Wyrm server is doing fine. But, I am sure someone will post a link to one of those "accurate" server population sites though.

well thats great, but not all servers are maintaining their players. There are more than a few that have the same story as mine. 

 

Again, its not what you say, but how you say it. You said "servers are dead", isnt' that what you said? Last I checked my server isnt dead, this person here says his server isnt dead, so obviously they are not ALL DEAD AND GONE BEFORE THE 3 MONTH MARK...now are they?

 

 

An empty server does not equal a dead one, but the effect is the same, anecdotal evidence shows many are rerolling on the busier servers so if yours is busy then it is unlikely to change anytime soon.

"i don't waste my time building relationship in games" - nariusseldon
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"Never before has any other MMO done so extensive a job in breathing life into a game world." SBFord of mmorpg.com on SWTOR.

  Unlight

Novice Member

Joined: 12/10/08
Posts: 2586

3/21/12 3:11:55 PM#68
Originally posted by stragen001
Originally posted by Yizle
Originally posted by stragen001

Personally I no longer play SWTOR. 

However numbers dont lie. This game has 1.7million subscribers. That makes it at worst, the 3rd most popular MMO (After WoW and Eve). Thats a massive success no matter which way you look at it. The haters on this site are by no means a fair representation of the MMO playing community as a whole. 

Anyone that says the 1.7million number is innaccurate doesnt understand coporate liability - If they lie about the subscriber numbers to the shareholders they are commiting a criminal offense. I seriously doubt they are doing that. 

And no one would ever fudge numbers or lie to shareholders. Just ask Wall Street

If you have evidence to support your claim i suggest you contact the authorities. Do you? No? Didnt think so. 

There's a difference between people paying a sub because they are locked into it with a multi-month plan, and those people actually playing and still interested in the game.  I'll give you the first part, but I think you've been smoking the drapes if you think there are 1.7 million of the second group.  After the free month, the three month plans should end towards the end of April, is that about right?  May's numbers, if they are released, will be the first accurate gauge of the health of the population.  Three months after that will be an even better gauge. 

The numbers cited shortly after the release are meaningless.  Everyone knew it would be a ridiculously large launch.  Some of us though, didn't believe it had the legs for a long distance race.  Nothing I've seen so far has dissuaded me from that.  After the six months plans have expired and the bong smoke has cleared, I'm still calling for a 300,000 - 400,000 population.  By no means small, but not anywhere in the neighbourhood of what is being claimed right now.

  Paithan

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Joined: 6/12/06
Posts: 383

3/21/12 3:20:57 PM#69
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Kaocan
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Kaocan

Oh hey, I almost forgot. SWTOR has passed by the 3 month mark as of yesterday. All those people back then who said it would be dead and gone by now, and who gave thier word to come back at the 3 month mark and appolige to everyone for being wrong....well...I'm waiting. Afterall you did give your word.

well the servers are dead :P

Wrong, nice try though. Spin Spin Spin all you want, game is still there. Its ok though, I dont honestly expect any of those that promissed to actually do what they said they would. 

I'm wrong? how can i be wrong when i log in and see no-one pray tell?

even when i travel around to various planets and see the numbers in single figures?

its not spin, its fact, but fact based only on my server. so please dont accuse me of lying when i'm still logging onto what is essentially a dead server

Using your logics, I logged onto WoW a few times this week and on my server the zones I went to i found 1-2 players . most of the ones I ran into where named RTYUIOOIA or KJSIHAPIUD, I asume you see what Im getting at.

You ARE wrong, the game isnt dead, the game isnt gone, the game isnt even making plans to go FTP yet, it may not have the subsciber numbers as some would have hoped but the game is far from circling the drain. Heck my own server(s) are rather active and there even seems to be an increase of activity.

  darkehawke

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Joined: 11/03/10
Posts: 180

3/21/12 3:25:55 PM#70
Originally posted by Paithan
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Kaocan
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Kaocan

Oh hey, I almost forgot. SWTOR has passed by the 3 month mark as of yesterday. All those people back then who said it would be dead and gone by now, and who gave thier word to come back at the 3 month mark and appolige to everyone for being wrong....well...I'm waiting. Afterall you did give your word.

well the servers are dead :P

Wrong, nice try though. Spin Spin Spin all you want, game is still there. Its ok though, I dont honestly expect any of those that promissed to actually do what they said they would. 

I'm wrong? how can i be wrong when i log in and see no-one pray tell?

even when i travel around to various planets and see the numbers in single figures?

its not spin, its fact, but fact based only on my server. so please dont accuse me of lying when i'm still logging onto what is essentially a dead server

Using your logics, I logged onto WoW a few times this week and on my server the zones I went to i found 1-2 players . most of the ones I ran into where named RTYUIOOIA or KJSIHAPIUD, I asume you see what Im getting at.

You ARE wrong, the game isnt dead, the game isnt gone, the game isnt even making plans to go FTP yet, it may not have the subsciber numbers as some would have hoped but the game is far from circling the drain. Heck my own server(s) are rather active and there even seems to be an increase of activity.

i am talking about every day in nearly every shared zone i can fnd. not just 1 or 2. i literally go around trying to find people, even if it is to help new players/toons on the starter planets.

i have admitted not all servers are like mine, ther are clearly a few busy servers. but there is a hell of a lot of dead servers too. so dont come telling me i'm wrong without due reason

Currently playing- SWG PreCU & GW 2
Have tried WoW, AoC, & Vanguard, SWG:NGE, GW, LOTRO & SWTOR
Best MMO: SWG
Worst MMO: SWTOR

  Kaocan

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Joined: 8/18/09
Posts: 1312

The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.

3/21/12 3:33:31 PM#71
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Paithan
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Kaocan
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Kaocan

Oh hey, I almost forgot. SWTOR has passed by the 3 month mark as of yesterday. All those people back then who said it would be dead and gone by now, and who gave thier word to come back at the 3 month mark and appolige to everyone for being wrong....well...I'm waiting. Afterall you did give your word.

well the servers are dead :P

Wrong, nice try though. Spin Spin Spin all you want, game is still there. Its ok though, I dont honestly expect any of those that promissed to actually do what they said they would. 

I'm wrong? how can i be wrong when i log in and see no-one pray tell?

even when i travel around to various planets and see the numbers in single figures?

its not spin, its fact, but fact based only on my server. so please dont accuse me of lying when i'm still logging onto what is essentially a dead server

Using your logics, I logged onto WoW a few times this week and on my server the zones I went to i found 1-2 players . most of the ones I ran into where named RTYUIOOIA or KJSIHAPIUD, I asume you see what Im getting at.

You ARE wrong, the game isnt dead, the game isnt gone, the game isnt even making plans to go FTP yet, it may not have the subsciber numbers as some would have hoped but the game is far from circling the drain. Heck my own server(s) are rather active and there even seems to be an increase of activity.

i am talking about every day in nearly every shared zone i can fnd. not just 1 or 2. i literally go around trying to find people, even if it is to help new players/toons on the starter planets.

i have admitted not all servers are like mine, ther are clearly a few busy servers. but there is a hell of a lot of dead servers too. so dont come telling me i'm wrong without due reason

Ok, lets get some facts here. What server do you play on that is dead? you state "a hell of a lot of dead servers too", so lets get names on them too. If you are going to come out making these claims lets get the facts directly. 

(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)

  darkehawke

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Joined: 11/03/10
Posts: 180

3/21/12 3:40:00 PM#72
Originally posted by Kaocan
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Paithan
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Kaocan
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Kaocan

Oh hey, I almost forgot. SWTOR has passed by the 3 month mark as of yesterday. All those people back then who said it would be dead and gone by now, and who gave thier word to come back at the 3 month mark and appolige to everyone for being wrong....well...I'm waiting. Afterall you did give your word.

well the servers are dead :P

Wrong, nice try though. Spin Spin Spin all you want, game is still there. Its ok though, I dont honestly expect any of those that promissed to actually do what they said they would. 

I'm wrong? how can i be wrong when i log in and see no-one pray tell?

even when i travel around to various planets and see the numbers in single figures?

its not spin, its fact, but fact based only on my server. so please dont accuse me of lying when i'm still logging onto what is essentially a dead server

Using your logics, I logged onto WoW a few times this week and on my server the zones I went to i found 1-2 players . most of the ones I ran into where named RTYUIOOIA or KJSIHAPIUD, I asume you see what Im getting at.

You ARE wrong, the game isnt dead, the game isnt gone, the game isnt even making plans to go FTP yet, it may not have the subsciber numbers as some would have hoped but the game is far from circling the drain. Heck my own server(s) are rather active and there even seems to be an increase of activity.

i am talking about every day in nearly every shared zone i can fnd. not just 1 or 2. i literally go around trying to find people, even if it is to help new players/toons on the starter planets.

i have admitted not all servers are like mine, ther are clearly a few busy servers. but there is a hell of a lot of dead servers too. so dont come telling me i'm wrong without due reason

Ok, lets get some facts here. What server do you play on that is dead? you state "a hell of a lot of dead servers too", so lets get names on them too. If you are going to come out making these claims lets get the facts directly. 

Luka Sene

and as for other servers simply read about the many gamers that you are willing to dismiss. and what is your ervers name while we're at it?

Currently playing- SWG PreCU & GW 2
Have tried WoW, AoC, & Vanguard, SWG:NGE, GW, LOTRO & SWTOR
Best MMO: SWG
Worst MMO: SWTOR

  Scorchien

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Posts: 868

3/21/12 3:42:57 PM#73
Originally posted by dollada06

"Probs" that currently exist:

  1. Poor Guild UI
  2. Terrible Auction House
  3. Have to re-form goups after every warzone
  4. Horrible Imbalance in servers factions
  5. dead servers
  6. imperial fleet is idiotic idea for social hub
  7. fps issues even for top end pc's
  8. IIlum is so terrible even Bioware are removing it.
  9. Lvl 50 PvP is pointless
  10. LvL 50 Pvp is impossible for a newly reached level 50 player.
  11. None existant customer service
  12. poor maintainence times
  13. numerous friends list bugs
  14. dead planets in reference to people
  15. dead planets in reference to NPC's not ever moving.
  16. No LFG feature
  17. 90% of pvp matches will be huttball
  18. horrible UI
  19. pointless professions
  20. bugged professions
  21. bugged class quests
  22. jawa balloon quest is ridiuclous and bugged
  23. unabandonable quests
  24. 9+ Players in one WZ team bug
  25. broken economy on servers due to poor price points of purchaesable items
  26. rampant botting
  27. Loot system is locked in, if someone rolls ur class ur screwed
  28. poor textures that we didn't have in beta, they were dumbed down at release because of the game engine.
  29. WZ's dont always count for daily quest STILL
  30. getting stuck in invisible zones in WZs
  31. lack of space content (really? samer thing over and over again?)
  32. a reverse engineering bug that they ignore
  33. trinkets that dont release you from the animation
  34. lack of endgame content
  35. pointless lvl 50 pvp gear
  36. pointless craftables at level 50
  37. Companion bug where everything stops when they return
  38. LAME character creation
  39. Overload of constant "Side Quests" (which are also unabandonable.)
  40. Ships are stale and pointless
  41. excessive loading times
  42. Almost no immersion in the game.
  43. Can't even use chairs
  44. Linear worlds, you are funneled to every segment of all planets
  45. Even open planets are small due to the "exhaustion zones"
  46. Games Laucher causes people problems just about every patch
  47. Does not support CrossFireX or SLI in 2011!  WTH!
  48. Virtually no support for ATI GPU's
  49. Forced to watch every cutscene even if you've seen it 100 times if you group.  Spacebar to skip is STILL slow as hell.
  50. Despite what all the fanboi's are saying the people are leaving the game.  1.7Mil in january and 1.7 mil in March says Bioware are only sustaining as best, but NOT growing.

  Well laid out and Bumped for Truth .....................

  Paithan

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Joined: 6/12/06
Posts: 383

3/21/12 3:44:53 PM#74
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Paithan
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Kaocan
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Kaocan

Oh hey, I almost forgot. SWTOR has passed by the 3 month mark as of yesterday. All those people back then who said it would be dead and gone by now, and who gave thier word to come back at the 3 month mark and appolige to everyone for being wrong....well...I'm waiting. Afterall you did give your word.

well the servers are dead :P

Wrong, nice try though. Spin Spin Spin all you want, game is still there. Its ok though, I dont honestly expect any of those that promissed to actually do what they said they would. 

I'm wrong? how can i be wrong when i log in and see no-one pray tell?

even when i travel around to various planets and see the numbers in single figures?

its not spin, its fact, but fact based only on my server. so please dont accuse me of lying when i'm still logging onto what is essentially a dead server

Using your logics, I logged onto WoW a few times this week and on my server the zones I went to i found 1-2 players . most of the ones I ran into where named RTYUIOOIA or KJSIHAPIUD, I asume you see what Im getting at.

You ARE wrong, the game isnt dead, the game isnt gone, the game isnt even making plans to go FTP yet, it may not have the subsciber numbers as some would have hoped but the game is far from circling the drain. Heck my own server(s) are rather active and there even seems to be an increase of activity.

i am talking about every day in nearly every shared zone i can fnd. not just 1 or 2. i literally go around trying to find people, even if it is to help new players/toons on the starter planets.

i have admitted not all servers are like mine, ther are clearly a few busy servers. but there is a hell of a lot of dead servers too. so dont come telling me i'm wrong without due reason

Thats kinna the funny thing, the zones Im talking about ARE shared on WoW as well. Im even including lvl 80 and 85 daily quest zones.

There is a decline in the player base yes, but the game far from dieing. Unless you want to use the same logics that applies to any random human, the day you are born you already slowly are dieing, unless you are the highlander.

I do expect the player base to drop to a medium size and maintain a smallish but steady and devoted number of players. Its not as bad as on rift,where despite their large promotion campain, "avoided" server merges by offering free transfers. Yet rift isnt dead yet either.

 

  Rhianni32

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Joined: 3/23/10
Posts: 220

3/21/12 3:47:56 PM#75
Originally posted by Nevulus
Originally posted by Yizle
Originally posted by Nevulus
Originally posted by Yizle
Originally posted by stragen001

Personally I no longer play SWTOR. 

However numbers dont lie. This game has 1.7million subscribers. That makes it at worst, the 3rd most popular MMO (After WoW and Eve). Thats a massive success no matter which way you look at it. The haters on this site are by no means a fair representation of the MMO playing community as a whole. 

Anyone that says the 1.7million number is innaccurate doesnt understand coporate liability - If they lie about the subscriber numbers to the shareholders they are commiting a criminal offense. I seriously doubt they are doing that. 

And no one would ever fudge numbers or lie to shareholders. Just ask Wall Street

Yeah Enron, those days a re LOOOONG gone, buddy. Nice try though

LMAO you must've missed a bunch of the headlines the last couple of years. Best you get off your MMO and out of the basement and catch up.

What headlines, show me WHERE a corporation blatantly lied to its shareholder recently. BEcause its illegal.

Look up Sarbanes Oxley Act. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about, lol headlines? rofl. Do not believe everything you read on the internet.

I work in Wall street. I dont sit around on an MMO all day. How bout you big guy? lol

Wait... you honestly believe that because something is illegal that it doesnt happen?

Ok you might want to sit down for this next one I have to tell you about illegal drugs....

  darkehawke

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Joined: 11/03/10
Posts: 180

3/21/12 3:50:32 PM#76
When I say dead, I mean as in lack of activity. There still players on, but none of the grouping up that used to happen regularly seems to be happening. Flashpoints are a bitch to find when they used to be easy to find. The population on my server is kinda small when taken into consideration on how many servers there are.

Currently playing- SWG PreCU & GW 2
Have tried WoW, AoC, & Vanguard, SWG:NGE, GW, LOTRO & SWTOR
Best MMO: SWG
Worst MMO: SWTOR

  Paithan

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Joined: 6/12/06
Posts: 383

3/21/12 4:01:52 PM#77
Originally posted by darkehawke
When I say dead, I mean as in lack of activity. There still players on, but none of the grouping up that used to happen regularly seems to be happening. Flashpoints are a bitch to find when they used to be easy to find. The population on my server is kinda small when taken into consideration on how many servers there are.

Thank you, thats a answer I can live with.

First of all are you talking lvl 50 hm fps? or the ones leveling up? The ones leveling up always where kinna useless, they take too long vs the xp and reward. You level much faster by doing the solo missions/stories (not even taking space combat into the equetion) .

  Paithan

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Posts: 383

3/21/12 4:05:20 PM#78
Originally posted by Rhianni32
Originally posted by Nevulus
Originally posted by Yizle
Originally posted by Nevulus
Originally posted by Yizle
Originally posted by stragen001

Personally I no longer play SWTOR. 

However numbers dont lie. This game has 1.7million subscribers. That makes it at worst, the 3rd most popular MMO (After WoW and Eve). Thats a massive success no matter which way you look at it. The haters on this site are by no means a fair representation of the MMO playing community as a whole. 

Anyone that says the 1.7million number is innaccurate doesnt understand coporate liability - If they lie about the subscriber numbers to the shareholders they are commiting a criminal offense. I seriously doubt they are doing that. 

And no one would ever fudge numbers or lie to shareholders. Just ask Wall Street

Yeah Enron, those days a re LOOOONG gone, buddy. Nice try though

LMAO you must've missed a bunch of the headlines the last couple of years. Best you get off your MMO and out of the basement and catch up.

What headlines, show me WHERE a corporation blatantly lied to its shareholder recently. BEcause its illegal.

Look up Sarbanes Oxley Act. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about, lol headlines? rofl. Do not believe everything you read on the internet.

I work in Wall street. I dont sit around on an MMO all day. How bout you big guy? lol

Wait... you honestly believe that because something is illegal that it doesnt happen?

Ok you might want to sit down for this next one I have to tell you about illegal drugs....

People and companies scamming is nothing new but in general people and companies scam to make money. Not so they have to pay their share holders, or lets say.. Lucas(art) more money. I could be wrong but most people arent trying to have to pay more tax either.

  Kaocan

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Posts: 1312

The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.

3/21/12 4:07:48 PM#79
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by Kaocan
Originally posted by darkehawke
 

i am talking about every day in nearly every shared zone i can fnd. not just 1 or 2. i literally go around trying to find people, even if it is to help new players/toons on the starter planets.

i have admitted not all servers are like mine, ther are clearly a few busy servers. but there is a hell of a lot of dead servers too. so dont come telling me i'm wrong without due reason

Ok, lets get some facts here. What server do you play on that is dead? you state "a hell of a lot of dead servers too", so lets get names on them too. If you are going to come out making these claims lets get the facts directly. 

Luka Sene

and as for other servers simply read about the many gamers that you are willing to dismiss. and what is your ervers name while we're at it?

Lets set the record straight right off the bat here ok. You are the one claiming that there are tons of servers out there which are dead, not me. I never dismiss anyones claims, I ask for clarification and proof of thier claims and then I go out and verify them myself. You are making claims, I am asking for the facts so I can verify if you are telling the truth or making shit up. Sure I believe you are making shit up, I'll be honest and up front on that one. I'll go to your server and I'll make an alt there to see if you are in fact on a 'dead server'. If you are, I'll agree that you are, if you are not I'll probably come back here and call you a liar in public. You ok with that? 

Oh and my main PvP server is The Fatman, I have characters on 4 other servers as well (2 PvE, one RP-PvP, and one RP-PvE). Not all of them have the same population as the others, some are weak on one side, strong on the other. I play where my guilds are. If you wish you can go make yourself comfortable on The Fatman and check for yourself, I'm sure nobody there would mind having someone new to beat the shit out of every day. ;)

(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)

  PyrateLV

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3/21/12 4:08:50 PM#80
Originally posted by Kaelano1

 You can't compare the detail and attention poured into this game to any other 3 month release.

RIFT

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