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  Falcomith

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3/14/12 9:39:48 AM#81
Originally posted by Mothanos

Some time ago forums had a purpose of mature posters, in todays world forums are ruled by trolls, hate and flamers.

I say they are doing a good job and dont need a forum.

Completly agree with the above statement. I have never been on a mature forum when it comes to a theme park mmo. And really, with Guild wars, there isnt really a need for one with all the information out there. And if there is a technical issue, then that is what customer support is for.

  User Deleted
 
OP  3/14/12 10:11:31 AM#82
[mod edit]

 

who is gw2guru? is owned by anet?  anet own curse? or curse owns anet? wth you try to explain me? devs come to gw2guru to talk, really sherlock?? prove it? how can you prove an account on a forum is 100% real? even it is, as an emplyer from anet you should repect the company and customers, and speak with customers on official channels not on irc and discutable web sites.

Speaking of common sense, i found it logical to get tehnical support and talk with other peoples from official forum, instead going to a discutable ads virus ready site like curse.

 

  hikaru77

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Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 1012

3/14/12 10:16:10 AM#83
Originally posted by catplay

So ANET can't afford a forum? Why?

I mean.. every serious company can, but not them? I guess they do not like peoples to come and said what they do not like?

What do you think?

Becasue they need their Fanbase QQing in MMORPG.com and SWTOR forums, thats why. 

  ProfRed

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Joined: 10/29/03
Posts: 3557

3/14/12 10:18:02 AM#84

Don't be ignorant...  Of course they can afford one.  They choose not to have one.  Many games do this, ESPECIALLY ones that don't have a subscription fee.  Forum users represent less than 1% of any given community so using and relying on them can often do more damage than good.  The best thing to do is to play the game and see whats going on for yourself.

  UtukuMoon

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Joined: 12/03/11
Posts: 1109

3/14/12 10:20:06 AM#85
Originally posted by catplay
Originally posted by wrathzilla
Originally posted by catplay

So ANET can't afford a forum? Why?

I mean.. every serious company can, but not them? I guess they do not like peoples to come and said what they do not like?

What do you think?

Way to misconstrue something they said in order to hate on a game.

 

For the record, they said that they don't want a forum because the money that they would have to spend on mods and servers would be better spent in developing their game, especially when there are so many fan-forums for them to go to.

 

Here's an example you'll understand: The WoW armory can be completely rendered useless because of websites like wowhead.com and wow-heroes.com. Therefore, would it not be a good idea for Blizzard to stop providing the WoW armory and just endorse the other sites instead?

 

It's an example of something called common sense.

 

Also, on GW2Guru, people whine and say all that they don't like all the time! A-Net Devs will even get on there to clear up anything the long-standing forum members can't.

 

Bad troll is bad.

 

who is gw2guru? is owned by anet?  anet own curse? or curse owns anet? wth you try to explain me? devs come to gw2guru to talk, really sherlock?? prove it? how can you prove an account on a forum is 100% real? even it is, as an emplyer from anet you should repect the company and customers, and speak with customers on official channels not on irc and discutable web sites.

Speaking of common sense, i found it logical to get tehnical support and talk with other peoples from official forum, instead going to a discutable ads virus ready site like curse.

 

 

Lol,you are wasting a lot of time and finger exercise on something that will not happen.Think i linked the ArenaNet contact details for you earlier,you should contact them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8ymgFyzbDo

  User Deleted
 
OP  3/14/12 10:22:01 AM#86
Originally posted by ProfRed

Don't be ignorant...  Of course they can afford one.  They choose not to have one.  Many games do this, ESPECIALLY ones that don't have a subscription fee.  Forum users represent less than 1% of any given community so using and relying on them can often do more damage than good.  The best thing to do is to play the game and see whats going on for yourself.

Dont forget forums are used for realm discussions, tenhical problems, contests,  etc. Not only QQ how some one want to drag the discussion in QQ way.

  RizelStar

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Joined: 8/12/11
Posts: 2824

We all breathe and we all die.

3/14/12 10:22:25 AM#87
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by catplay

So ANET can't afford a forum? Why?

I mean.. every serious company can, but not them? I guess they do not like peoples to come and said what they do not like?

What do you think?

Becasue they need their Fanbase QQing in MMORPG.com and SWTOR forums, thats why. 

 

This guy nailed it, also hikaru you remind me of this warhammer fan and I say that with no disrespect just when I. Use to watch their forums you said the same exact things one of the members said. But it's even more possible your not him/her.

I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.

I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.

P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)

Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.

  User Deleted
 
OP  3/14/12 10:24:23 AM#88
Originally posted by Sylvarii
Lol,you are wasting a lot of time and finger exercise on something that will not happen.Think i linked the ArenaNet contact details for you earlier,you should contact them.

Actually i will contact them, i will not pay for a game who redirect me to virus ads discutable site for forum.

  gainesvilleg

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Joined: 2/27/11
Posts: 1087

3/14/12 10:28:19 AM#89

I do find it amusing how any feature that GW2 has or doesn't have triggers the "haters" and the "fanboys" to each dig in with extreme black/white viewpoints on the topic.

GW2 could cure cancer and the "haters" would say "Well, more people die from heart attacks you know"

Meanwhile, GW2 could decide to go back to the old GW1 lobby-town model and GW2 "fanboys" would go "Wow!  This is awesome they are getting rid of that stupid persistence thing!"

I never cease to be entertained by these exchanges.

As for the forums though, I agree that the complaining and venting that goes on in there might be something ANet would like to avoid or not be forced to make judgements on censorship.  I only very rarely post anything on an official forum, usually to request a feature or ask about an issue or question that I have.  But I do search them to see if somebody else has encountered a bug or issue I am having, and what the resolution is.  I've found the general community to be much better at reporting and tracking down issues and bugs than just submitting a trouble ticket.  If you've ever tried to solve a problem via a helpdesk ANYWHERE and been frustrated, only to quickly google your issue and find the answer in 2 minutes, you know what I mean.  But there will always be unnofficial forumst for that.  I've always found the server specific threads to be rather useless and I think in-game shouts are better there...

GW2 "built from the ground up with microtransactions in mind"
1) Cash->Gems->Gold->Influence->WvWvWBoosts = PAY2WIN
2) Mystic Chests = Crass in-game cash shop advertisements

  drbaltazar

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 7987

3/14/12 10:33:15 AM#90

bha you overthink this lol!it is not a strategy they dont care what people say in forum!they ll lunch forum same tim,e as the game

when the game is ready!if you want to speak about it!you got to do like arenanet do ,go where the people are!like stream at mmorpg.com!it is sad tho that there wont be an irc live chat to speak even if it is limited to one line per 5 minute it would stilll be better then pre determined question about stuff that probably wont be shown  on live stream gees!so in the end the live stream will be useless might as well just pre record a video and put it on youtube!it would be the same!

  UtukuMoon

Apprentice Member

Joined: 12/03/11
Posts: 1109

3/14/12 10:37:20 AM#91
Originally posted by catplay
Originally posted by Sylvarii
Lol,you are wasting a lot of time and finger exercise on something that will not happen.Think i linked the ArenaNet contact details for you earlier,you should contact them.

Actually i will contact them, i will not pay for a game who redirect me to virus ads discutable site for forum.

 

Guess you wont be playing the game,it's not like losing your buisness will effect the game or ArenaNet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8ymgFyzbDo

  drbaltazar

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 7987

3/14/12 10:44:21 AM#92

one thing is sure!i wish ms would do something about the rootkit stuff!it is true that even with all the stuff they implement ,company like gameguard are allowed to sidestep every security mesure!and good luck erasing those be it from gameguard ea or sony cause they arent a virus yet impede you computer experience!i wish ms would add an optional solutiion to this!.like stop autorising their access to our ressource and false positve the gameguard of this world so that it wouldnt stop the game but would prevent gameguard of this world from controlling OUR PAID FOR MACHINE!and would stop gameguard of this world from invading our privacy!

  gladosrev2

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Joined: 3/21/09
Posts: 204

3/14/12 10:53:15 AM#93

Because GW2 already has a forum?

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/

:)

The devs use it, and it works, so why would they want to make an 'official' forum? Just so people can start creating topics here about 'EEVIL MODS DELETING CRITICAL TOPICS ON TTHE OFFICIAL GW2 FORUM OMGZORG!!!11" ? We've seen it before on virtually every MMO. Official forums suck, and that's about it.

There is a reason why all other MMO's NEED an official, monitored forum, and GW2 does not. Those games suck, and negative topics need to be deleted, while GW2 is awesome, and can easily thrive on a unmoderated fan forum :)

My Guild Wars 2 First Beta Weekend "reviewette" : http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/4944570/thread/349125#4944570

  Muntz

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Joined: 10/09/09
Posts: 298

3/14/12 11:13:35 AM#94
Originally posted by catplay
Originally posted by ProfRed

Don't be ignorant...  Of course they can afford one.  They choose not to have one.  Many games do this, ESPECIALLY ones that don't have a subscription fee.  Forum users represent less than 1% of any given community so using and relying on them can often do more damage than good.  The best thing to do is to play the game and see whats going on for yourself.

Dont forget forums are used for realm discussions, tenhical problems, contests,  etc. Not only QQ how some one want to drag the discussion in QQ way.

He is still right in the about 1% of the community. Is it worth it to have an official forum?

You seem to think an official forum offers a more legitimate source of information then a fan site. They still have a site and it still contains information it's just one way so they can push out general information you just can respond to it in a public way on their site. Technical problems are best handled one on one. Why do they need to be involved in user realm discussions? 

You seem to think an official forum is some how immune to spreading viruses. Admittedly, advertising does seem to provide a greater risk but it's not the only risk. Best not to get on the internet at all. 

Again all this to cater to 1% of the population, money spent poorly. 

  Adalwulff

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Posts: 1191

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3/14/12 11:43:01 AM#95

The reasons they do not have a forum, are right here in this thread.

Look at all the nastyness, many of you just want to bitch and whinn all over the "official" forums. Your entitlement issues tell you that the devs should be at your disposal, ready to explain why they did something you didnt like.

I serioulsy dont understand how people could possibly think they can change a game to suit thier whims, even after the game has been in development for years.

If you dont like the features, then look for another game. What makes you think that your opinions are more important?

  ariboersma

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Posts: 1817

3/14/12 11:52:47 AM#96
Originally posted by wrathzilla
Originally posted by catplay
Originally posted by wrathzilla
Originally posted by catplay

So ANET can't afford a forum? Why?

I mean.. every serious company can, but not them? I guess they do not like peoples to come and said what they do not like?

What do you think?

Way to misconstrue something they said in order to hate on a game.

 

For the record, they said that they don't want a forum because the money that they would have to spend on mods and servers would be better spent in developing their game, especially when there are so many fan-forums for them to go to.

 

Here's an example you'll understand: The WoW armory can be completely rendered useless because of websites like wowhead.com and wow-heroes.com. Therefore, would it not be a good idea for Blizzard to stop providing the WoW armory and just endorse the other sites instead?

 

It's an example of something called common sense.

 

Also, on GW2Guru, people whine and say all that they don't like all the time! A-Net Devs will even get on there to clear up anything the long-standing forum members can't.

 

Bad troll is bad.

 

who is gw2guru? is owned by anet?  anet own curse? or curse owns anet? wth you try to explain me? devs come to gw2guru to talk, really sherlock?? prove it? how can you prove an account on a forum is 100% real? even it is, as an emplyer from anet you should repect the company and customers, and speak with customers on official channels not on irc and discutable web sites.

Speaking of common sense, i found it logical to get tehnical support and talk with other peoples from official forum, instead going to a discutable ads virus ready site like curse.

 

I find it hard to believe you are this ignorant.

 

A-net has a technical forum, thats it. They don't do chat forums and thats it.

 

Nowhere in my post did I say that GW2Guru was owned by A-Net. I never even mentioned curse.

 

It is considered an official channel because A-Net endorses it! Look up that word, it's important!

 

How do i prove A-Net actually posts there? How do i prove that guildwars2.com is the real website? If i make an account on this website named Chuck Norris does that make me Chuck Norris? How can you prove I'm not Chuck Norris? Your logic runs in circles, and is completely irrelevant. Asking rhetorical (unanswerable) questions is no way to win an argument.

 

It's hard to take you seriously when you cant spell or use grammar correctly.

 

And for proof:

https://forum.guildwars.com/forum Here's the old GW1 support forum.

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/devtracker.php?g=anet Here's all the Developer posts on GW2Guru

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/pre-purchase-guild-wars-2-t31280.html?p=1212513#post1212513

Please tell me how that last link is answerable by someone who doesn't have inside knowledge of what's going on at A-net? The only website to post any pre-order information (and it's extremely little) is the actual GW2 website (buy.guildwars2.com).

 

Again, bad troll is bad. Before you make threads QQing about the lack of a technical forum, you might want to make sure there actually ISNT one, and if you change what they said (from "We want to spend the money that would go to a forum on the game" to "We can't afford a forum") you might want to do it on a forum where there's no GW2 fans to shoot you down, like, I dont know, swtor.com?

 

EDIT: BY THE WAY, WHAT THE FUCK IS DISCUTABLE? Oh and if you hate forums that have ads, then why are you here?

 

sorry for long repost but I had to... Catplay.. wow just wow and Wrathzilla! You are my new hero =P Seriously though.. go to his links... they will teach you everything you need to know about the issue that you claimed to know about and didn't. At least complain about something that Anet hasn't already addressed! To bring that up again... they still might have an official non tech forums.. they havn't said no. I for one hope they stick to just tech like for GW1 because as I said before and many others have said.. game official forums(btw many do have adverts... use adblock if you dont want to see them) are just a place for harassment, not enough good comes of them. If you don't believe me go to WOW forums or SWTOR forums... OR! do this.. go over to MMO champion and look at the blizzard blue tracker and see how worthless and bad the wow forums are.

  User Deleted
3/14/12 11:54:02 AM#97

They didn't have official forums because they wanted to encourage as many fansites as posible, they even had a weekly "fansite friday".They haven't really been doing anything of that sort just yet, but it might start closer to release.

The insunation that they can't afford a forum however is laughable to anyone with slightest common sense.

  DJJazzy

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3/14/12 12:11:06 PM#98

Who says they can't afford a forum? In fact they already do have a forum

https://forum.guildwars.com/forum/

  Doogiehowser

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3/14/12 12:12:57 PM#99

They can afford forums they just can not afford all the headache that comes with it.

"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell

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  RoyalPhunk

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3/14/12 12:17:18 PM#100
Originally posted by Doogiehowser

They can afford forums they just can not afford all the headache that comes with it.

Absolutely, the forum trolls and qqers will not get an official forum from which to claw and drag the game down into the bog with them.  I cant say I am sorry about that. ; P

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