Originally posted by ComfyChair

Originally posted by waynejr2

Originally posted by Quesa

"Ilum is crap, they should just scrap it."

*Ilum deprecated*

"What the hell, now world PvP is dead."

But what you wrote is completely consistant with how I see the mmorpg community.

Like:  We want a game that's different from wow.  *new game comes along*  OMG, this game is bad as it's not like wow!

Yup.

If i ever bother to check, the forums will be hilarious after GW2's release. Mainly full of people who can't cope with an MMO where you can't go 'herp derp 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1, rest, 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1, rest, 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1'.

My rotation was 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 1 1   Rest    1 2 3 1 2 3 1 1 1 Rest   (30 more times)    Boss Fight 1 2 3 knockback 1 2 3 1 2 3 knockback  1 2 3 1 2 3 heal 1 1 1...  

Originally posted by TheHavok

I have cancelled my sub and I highly doubt I will ever return to SWTOR but I will say its nice to see Bioware/Mythic/EA stepping up and acknowledging that they implemented bad game design ith Ilum and they will be attempting to fix it.  Atleast they aren't ignoring the problem.

Problem was, they did ignore it.   And trolled people for it.   And, after MONTHS of being broken finally fessed up...     You can't do customer service any worse.   You NEVER troll complaints.    That's the #1 rule of customer service.

Originally posted by BlackUhuru

Here's a quote from Dalas Dickinson:

"So far very few people have seen, or know much about the stunning Open World PVP on Ilum; when you get to the high levels prepare to be blown away!"

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Yes.  It was one of the greatest interactive slide-shows I've ever experienced...     And the teleporting and ping-ponging...  I was having flashbacks to the 1970s and Star Trek reruns and Pong on the old black-and-white TV...

Originally posted by Loekii

I would find it very hard to believe that DD was actually 'clueless' to the issues of Ilium, and completely surprised by its failure.   No professional at his level is actually that 'clueless' -- regardless of internet knowledge.  

 

What he is doing, is the same thing that Cryptic did with STO, and other Devs do with their games -- being less than honest about the description of the reality.   They are just being 'used car salesmen' of the video game industry.

 

And I also agree with the irony of how what was 'yesterdays TOR hate QQing', is todays 'Developers official acknowledgment of a problem'.     Imo, it shows that some 'fans', have been a bit over zealous in their 'hater' labeling.

 

Fans?   James Ohlen trolled us and said our computers were crap!   Which enabled the BioDrones to troll us...   

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Originally posted by bansan

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Originally posted by DannyGlover
 

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Originally posted by Loekii
I hate to generalize, but I think there is something about gamers, that makes them act differently than normal customers.   We as a group, seem to be more toleratant of poor quality and mistakes -- where most normal customers would cancel, never return and/or demand refunds.   Perhaps there is something to the social stereotypes of gamers. 

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Really? Coulda fooled me. The majority of threads started on this site are complaints about games. You ask most people what mmo they are playing and they will tell you "Nothing, I'm waiting for XX to come out."
I would actually argue that mmo gamers are not tolerant but rather so intolerant, that they don't even want other types of mmo gamers in their game of choice.
edit:
Please please PLEASE spare me the food analogies. They are so wrong its just embarrassing.

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Your whole post is embarrassing.  Most people are waiting for xx game to come out?  What about the millions playing SWTOR and other games?  A few people say that on this forum, and it turns into "most people?"
I'd say he's right that gamers are tolerant of crappy games.  Look at all of the failed, buggy launches, and thousands still paid $160 to pre-order a game...2 million pre-orders in total.
Of course, your dream world comment about how players are intolerant of other players in their game has nothing to do with this.

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People on these forums think that those millions of gamers that are playing mmos that they hate are ruining their fun. Thats pretty narrow minded and immature. There is something for everybody in this genre if they'd take the time to look.

Originally posted by Voiidiin

Originally posted by observer

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=3339800#edit3339800

This is bad news.  World pvp is absolutely dead now.

Umm, sorry my wife is a English teacher so i have found certain things in forums very annoying.

 

Can someone please tell me how you get "Deprecated" ?? Its not a verb so i am at a loss here. Did they mean "Decapitated" ? Or "Decaffeinated" ?

Youre wife is a crappy English teacher because depreciated is absolutely a verb.  A cars value depreciates, when they estimated my house they depreciated the cost.  Whoever told you depreciate isn't a verb is uninformed--or has a depreciated intelligence.  Either way.

Originally posted by dollada06

Youre wife is a crappy English teacher because depreciated is absolutely a verb.  A cars value depreciates, when they estimated my house they depreciated the cost.  Whoever told you depreciate isn't a verb is uninformed--or has a depreciated intelligence.  Either way.

 Deprecate and depreciate are not the same thing. Although deprecate can be used as a verb. 

Originally posted by dollada06

Originally posted by Voiidiin

Originally posted by observer

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=3339800#edit3339800

This is bad news.  World pvp is absolutely dead now.

Umm, sorry my wife is a English teacher so i have found certain things in forums very annoying.

 

Can someone please tell me how you get "Deprecated" ?? Its not a verb so i am at a loss here. Did they mean "Decapitated" ? Or "Decaffeinated" ?

Youre wife is a crappy English teacher because depreciated is absolutely a verb.  A cars value depreciates, when they estimated my house they depreciated the cost.  Whoever told you depreciate isn't a verb is uninformed--or has a depreciated intelligence.  Either way.

Isn't depricate a verb and depricated an adjective?

Edit:  I see how depricated is also a verb.  My mistake.  Very well done and great example.

Originally posted by Jaco1101

Originally posted by dollada06

Originally posted by Voiidiin

Originally posted by observer

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=3339800#edit3339800

This is bad news.  World pvp is absolutely dead now.

Umm, sorry my wife is a English teacher so i have found certain things in forums very annoying.

 

Can someone please tell me how you get "Deprecated" ?? Its not a verb so i am at a loss here. Did they mean "Decapitated" ? Or "Decaffeinated" ?

Youre wife is a crappy English teacher because depreciated is absolutely a verb.  A cars value depreciates, when they estimated my house they depreciated the cost.  Whoever told you depreciate isn't a verb is uninformed--or has a depreciated intelligence.  Either way.

Isn't depricate a verb and depricated an adjective?

 

Edit:  I see how depricated is also a verb.  My mistake.  Very well done and great example.

They are different words all together, with completely different meanings...

"Deprecate" means to "play down."  In other words, we're going to deprecate this old facility by opening a shiny new one.  You didn't completely get rid of the old facility...but you played it down by opening a shiny new facility that everyone will go to.

"Depreciate" is just like dolladolla said, it's all about "value."  It means to lower the estimated value or price of something.