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  Kuro1n

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3/07/12 9:45:41 PM#21
Originally posted by Jakdstripper
Originally posted by Kuro1n

I never understood what people mean when they say you need spreadsheets... as in literally spreadsheets or simply the UI? I never used spreadsheets for sure.

 both.

most of the UI looks like a spreadsheet, and if you really want to get seriously into EvE you need your own spreadsheets to keep strack of all your enterprises, as well as projections of future enterprises.

Not really, I have many friends who played the game for many years and the only ones who uses it are the ones who like to manufacture things and they do it for their own sake, its not required at all just makes it easier but the same can be said for L2 when you run a clan for example. Did you try the game?

  Rusque

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3/07/12 9:50:31 PM#22
Originally posted by dave6660
Originally posted by Kiljaedenas
Originally posted by Mad+Dog

eve = very borrring combat.

Did you even watch the video? What are you expecting, some button mashing extravaganza a-la Devil May Cry or God of War? Do you have any idea how tense things can get in that kind of fighting when you're trying to out-think and out-fight an intelligent opponent that isn't some brainless computer entity?

Actually that's exactly what they're expecting.  You're trying to explain chess to the checkers crowd.

Don't flatter yourself. EVE is hardly chess, and if it's combat had anywhere near the depth that people like to pretend it does, I'd be gladly playing it.

  Kuro1n

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3/07/12 9:56:38 PM#23
Originally posted by Rusque
Originally posted by dave6660
Originally posted by Kiljaedenas
Originally posted by Mad+Dog

eve = very borrring combat.

Did you even watch the video? What are you expecting, some button mashing extravaganza a-la Devil May Cry or God of War? Do you have any idea how tense things can get in that kind of fighting when you're trying to out-think and out-fight an intelligent opponent that isn't some brainless computer entity?

Actually that's exactly what they're expecting.  You're trying to explain chess to the checkers crowd.

Don't flatter yourself. EVE is hardly chess, and if it's combat had anywhere near the depth that people like to pretend it does, I'd be gladly playing it.

So what is it people are claiming then and what is it you consider it to be? The game requires quite a lot of information for knowing what to engage and how to engage it as well as some skill obviously.

  drbaltazar

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Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 7987

3/07/12 10:01:26 PM#24
Originally posted by thekid1

I find Eve combat a bit like Star Trek combat.

You just see the captain sitting in his chair giving orders and some other guys push buttons.

And ALWAYS a trick or good use of information wins the battle, not twitch skills.

 

 

I only played Eve for 1 week, to boring for me, but I HIGHLY respect the game and it's developers. It's a world and endless game. They are in it for the long haul. They don't release EVE 2 they just give it a new graphics engine.

 

Didn't watch the video by the way; to boring, haha.

you should have watched the video!the fight wasnt the mian event!it was the road and the explaining to get there that was epic!imagine ,nobody could get to a specific area of space because of a lot of trick they had to find a way in.that alone was epic .it is understated because the sheer scale of the whole endeavor is a nightmare of epic proprtion .then once they made themselves a door they tried to fight the other but more trick came against them luckylly they were able to capture a vessal and that is when the epic proportion came in ,they reverse engineered ,the ship and after consideration came to a conclusion ,submited it to ccp!asked for permission to counter that in the end ccp closed that whole , i bet those hidding in the wormhole trick werent too happy!anyway .view the video!it is worth it !dont listen to the fight at the end but just till prior to the fight!

  drbaltazar

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Posts: 7987

3/07/12 10:03:42 PM#25
Originally posted by Rusque
Originally posted by dave6660
Originally posted by Kiljaedenas
Originally posted by Mad+Dog

eve = very borrring combat.

Did you even watch the video? What are you expecting, some button mashing extravaganza a-la Devil May Cry or God of War? Do you have any idea how tense things can get in that kind of fighting when you're trying to out-think and out-fight an intelligent opponent that isn't some brainless computer entity?

Actually that's exactly what they're expecting.  You're trying to explain chess to the checkers crowd.

Don't flatter yourself. EVE is hardly chess, and if it's combat had anywhere near the depth that people like to pretend it does, I'd be gladly playing it.

the combat itself is hardly rewarding!BUT THE INSANE LENGHT THEY HAD TO GO TO TO FIND the cheater.cause in the end it was a cheat that is why nobody could touch them!

  User Deleted
3/07/12 10:08:49 PM#26

Melo dramatic.  Dude's Brittish voice makes it seem all the more Jean Luke Picard (spelling) like.  Go play eve if you want.  Your journey will not be narrated in such an epic fashion.  lol

  Cecropia

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Poacher killer.

3/07/12 10:09:28 PM#27
Originally posted by Kuro1n
Originally posted by Jakdstripper
Originally posted by Kuro1n

I never understood what people mean when they say you need spreadsheets... as in literally spreadsheets or simply the UI? I never used spreadsheets for sure.

 both.

most of the UI looks like a spreadsheet, and if you really want to get seriously into EvE you need your own spreadsheets to keep strack of all your enterprises, as well as projections of future enterprises.

Not really, I have many friends who played the game for many years and the only ones who uses it are the ones who like to manufacture things and they do it for their own sake, its not required at all just makes it easier but the same can be said for L2 when you run a clan for example. Did you try the game?

I played EVE from 2005 to 2011 with a good number of people (20 to 30 consistently), none of which ever felt the need for the use of spreadsheets. I think the key to your question is the word "try"...as in that's all they did during their brief period of being "lost".

"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb

  AZHokie54

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Joined: 12/23/11
Posts: 297

3/07/12 10:15:44 PM#28

Well, that's ten minutes of my life I'm never getting back.

 

 

  Scypheroth

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Joined: 10/15/11
Posts: 281

3/07/12 10:31:49 PM#29

this game hurts my head....u need a freaking 200+ IQ to play it or sumthing....

  drtack1

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Joined: 12/20/10
Posts: 240

 
OP  3/07/12 10:39:05 PM#30

Yea the game is not for everyone! Its def not for those who like to just press F1-F12 or 1-0. The game takes strategy, cunning, planning, and a whole list of other things. The first month or two may be slow starting with eve but once you Gte past that you can truely begin to experience eve for what it is. It does not take years to get started and eneter null sec where all the pvp happens. When I started The first month and a half I trained skills and did npc missions just like any other mmo. I started piloting an advanced frigate and joined my corp in pvp. It was so fun the the sheer rush had me hooked.  Start small then go big! 

The true reason why most people dont like EVE is because most people expect instant gratification........no one wants to work for something to get where they want to go!

And for those who say its boring.....really? Its REALISTIC! Do you honestly think if humanity ever gets to this point in the future we would be controling the movement of the ship and everything else?

Its physicaly and mentaly impossible for the human body and mind to control a ship and evey system running it. We would just tell it what to do. A single human couldnt control everything it takes to pilot a ship.

I have also never used spread sheets to play eve. You guys dont need to bash and or troll this forum. I posted this because I wanted to share this awesome story with everyone! If you took the time to watch the video and understand the story and everything that goes on you would appreciate this post like others here have!

The video reminds me of Battle Star Galactica! So awesome. I play eve because its truely a game with no end. All the other mmos out there ive played reached lvl cap and a month later am bored. I always come back to eve!

And a fun fact...........

It would take ROUGHLY 27 years to train very single skill possible in the game!  

  drbaltazar

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Posts: 7987

3/07/12 10:40:30 PM#31
Originally posted by Scypheroth

this game hurts my head....u need a freaking 200+ IQ to play it or sumthing....

i got to say i agree!it is chess but a 2012 version!

  BereKin

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Posts: 285

3/07/12 10:44:29 PM#32

Nice. Shame there are no more games like Eve.

  Thane

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Joined: 8/14/03
Posts: 1968

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3/07/12 11:19:35 PM#33
Originally posted by drtack1

(...)

And a fun fact...........

It would take ROUGHLY 27 years to train very single skill possible in the game!  

just checked by adding all remaining skills (374 unique skills with 5 lvls each) to the evemon skillplaner...

 

it would take me 8879 days (or 24 years and 101 days), 21 hours, 57 mins and 28 seconds to learn them all, and

it would cost me 28.779.155.000 ISK to buy all of them :P

 

that is only if they do not update the skillsystem / add more skills with in the next 25 years *G*

 

 

"I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"

  wickymagee

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Posts: 42

3/08/12 12:13:16 AM#34

That video gave me goose bumps...  I love EVE and I really miss playing it and the group of people I got to know (bump to Marsoc Galactic if it's still out there).  No PVE game has ever given me the rush and the satisfaction I got from even a small PVP skirmish in EVE let alone large scale fleet action.   For those who think the combat in EVE is boring you've never been in real PVP, each battle is fluid and requires skilled people in ships they know how to fly and equiped with the right things to contribute and everybody has to work together to win (not just select the tank and spam heals).  Anyways, great video and a great and deep game.

  Kuro1n

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Joined: 1/03/07
Posts: 779

3/08/12 2:12:59 AM#35
Originally posted by Cecropia
Originally posted by Kuro1n
Originally posted by Jakdstripper
Originally posted by Kuro1n

I never understood what people mean when they say you need spreadsheets... as in literally spreadsheets or simply the UI? I never used spreadsheets for sure.

 both.

most of the UI looks like a spreadsheet, and if you really want to get seriously into EvE you need your own spreadsheets to keep strack of all your enterprises, as well as projections of future enterprises.

Not really, I have many friends who played the game for many years and the only ones who uses it are the ones who like to manufacture things and they do it for their own sake, its not required at all just makes it easier but the same can be said for L2 when you run a clan for example. Did you try the game?

I played EVE from 2005 to 2011 with a good number of people (20 to 30 consistently), none of which ever felt the need for the use of spreadsheets. I think the key to your question is the word "try"...as in that's all they did during their brief period of being "lost".

Yes that sounds about apropriate to my own thoughts really, I never understood this spreadsheet part really other than the interface somewhat but even then... no not really.

  tixylix

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Joined: 12/02/11
Posts: 1144

3/08/12 4:42:04 AM#36

Yeh they should add twitch based combat so skill wins not money and time.

  Torgrim

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3/08/12 6:36:30 AM#37
Originally posted by Jakdstripper
Originally posted by Kuro1n

I never understood what people mean when they say you need spreadsheets... as in literally spreadsheets or simply the UI? I never used spreadsheets for sure.

 both.

most of the UI looks like a spreadsheet, and if you really want to get seriously into EvE you need your own spreadsheets to keep strack of all your enterprises, as well as projections of future enterprises.

 

O'rly?, I trade and PVE and PVP have billions of isk and never ever used spreadsheets.

This spreadsheet argument is getting so old it's not even funny anymore.

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  Krematory

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Joined: 12/15/08
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MMOHOLIC

3/08/12 11:29:51 AM#38
Originally posted by Torgrim
Originally posted by Jakdstripper
Originally posted by Kuro1n

I never understood what people mean when they say you need spreadsheets... as in literally spreadsheets or simply the UI? I never used spreadsheets for sure.

 both.

most of the UI looks like a spreadsheet, and if you really want to get seriously into EvE you need your own spreadsheets to keep strack of all your enterprises, as well as projections of future enterprises.

 

O'rly?, I trade and PVE and PVP have billions of isk and never ever used spreadsheets.

This spreadsheet argument is getting so old it's not even funny anymore.

Haters gonna hate. And they need to make up some excuse to bash a game they cannot play because their own lack of skill.

"EVE is likely the best MMORPG that you've never really understood or played" - Kyleran

  Kiljaedenas

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To err is human, but to really f*ck things up you need a computer.

3/08/12 1:01:45 PM#39
Originally posted by Krematory
Originally posted by Torgrim
Originally posted by Jakdstripper
Originally posted by Kuro1n

I never understood what people mean when they say you need spreadsheets... as in literally spreadsheets or simply the UI? I never used spreadsheets for sure.

 both.

most of the UI looks like a spreadsheet, and if you really want to get seriously into EvE you need your own spreadsheets to keep strack of all your enterprises, as well as projections of future enterprises.

 

O'rly?, I trade and PVE and PVP have billions of isk and never ever used spreadsheets.

This spreadsheet argument is getting so old it's not even funny anymore.

Haters gonna hate. And they need to make up some excuse to bash a game they cannot play because their own lack of skill.

No kidding, that spreadsheet argument is very stale. And some people just don't seem to recognize how much "boring" doesn't apply to combat in Eve. The level of tactical and logistical complexity they got into in that video, even in the main fight where they were depending on the one Bhaalgorn...the choice of targets, which ones to fire what at...that's ten times more complex than anything in any MMO I have ever played or even heard of. I've played Eve for several years and have done some pretty funky stuff in it, and even I haven't done anything THAT complex.

Eve's PvP combat is not a heavy button-mashing extravaganza; that is not where its complexity comes in. It's in the TACTICS and LOGISTICS of what ships to bring, what to fit on those ships, evaluating the strengths and weaknesses of your enemy on the fly and adapting to them right in the middle of a fight, against intelligent, highly adaptable human opponents with access to resources and backup you may not know about and they could surprise you with at any moment...THAT is why Eve combat is so badass. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, comes close to that level of tactical and logistical complexity in group PvP.

Where's the any key?

  Sora2810

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3/08/12 5:56:43 PM#40

Spreadsheets are small tables made on Microsoft Excel that do math calculations. 

Eve can be as hardcore or as softcore as you want to make it. Don't let others fool you, eve is 100% about playing how you want. 

Eve looks boring, I tried it several times over the years, but for some reason, I can't stop playing it.. 

Played - M59, EQOA, EQ, EQ2, PS, SWG[Favorite], DAoC, UO, RS, MXO, CoH/CoV, TR, FFXI, FoM, WoW, Eve, Rift, SWTOR, TSW.
Playing - PS2, AoW, GW2

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