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  Gwahlur

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Joined: 8/28/11
Posts: 198

2/24/12 6:27:40 AM#21
Originally posted by argirop

You from the other side you giving them compliments and back up when they clearly dont deserve it and you also encouraging them to do exactly the same things they are doing the last 2 years: being anything else appart professional and having their fun in expense of the customers who where naive enough to follow their cause.

Got any quotes for that?

And I'm not pointing fingers at you if you're not among those who have said more or less the exact same words i put in " " on this forum

  Hitman111110

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Joined: 2/23/12
Posts: 9

2/24/12 6:51:47 AM#22
Originally posted by Biskop

 Bullshit. Nobody bash SV because they're making an unconvential game, genre-wise. Most of MO's harshest critis are sandbox players who'd love to see a game like MO actually work and flourish.

Too bad it's neither working nor flourishing. Thus the criticism; we don't want people thinking sandbox games = failed indie projects. We don't want developers thinking sandbox players are desperate junkies who'll swallow any kind of crap just because it's labeled "sandbox".

Maybe I am new, but I can tell you one thing, the CEO is trying, and yes he has issues, But If you actually take a step back and see where the game has come since I joined. Give it a chance.  I hold out for the best. When I know it’s not coming I leave.  I was always told you can get more flies with honey instead of vinegar.  Meaning, you try to explain yourself in a professional manner, you raise your points and you polite about it, you are more likely to see results.  You keep trolling someone and never give them a breath of fresh air, Yes you’re going to get no response and just a complete lack of respect on any end.  I know I am not going to change any ones thoughts in this forum on the game.  But I can say they have made changes, they are working to give a better customer experience.
 
On that note, I tell you this.  I used to hate calling game support; you would wait and wait and wait.  Now I normally can have my issue answered in a matter of moments.  They seem to be helpful and know the game somewhat.    Call me stupid, but you have to at least see that they have been trying to work on making the game better.
  Hitman111110

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Joined: 2/23/12
Posts: 9

2/24/12 7:02:30 AM#23
Originally posted by argirop
 

 You from the other side you giving them compliments and back up when they clearly dont deserve it and you also encouraging them to do exactly the same things they are doing the last 2 years: being anything else appart professional and having their fun in expense of the customers who where naive enough to follow their cause.

Fun? You think they are having fun, I don't know about you, but I don’t think the ability to have your phone called any hour of the day ,is fun. How many games can you call the CEO and the CEO actually answers?  I don’t there is many.  Hernik has said, in not the exact words, I have heard your concerns and we are working on them. They are addressing some major issues with the game.
 
Yes I will give them compliments, they are trying the day they stop trying is the day they lose my money.  I never said I was 100% happy with the game; it has its issues as everyone has not failed to point out.  In an interview they finally announced how many people were actually working on MO the number was 5.  The statements are clear; the company is in the red.  They expect to break even soon.  Game Population is up. It does matter what time you are in the game, and yes I have seen more trial accounts more.  All I am asking is to give it a shot, wait till the expansion, play if you have not, and give them just a chance.

e.

 

 

  StarI

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Joined: 1/18/06
Posts: 845

2/24/12 7:10:12 AM#24
Originally posted by Hitman111110
 
Maybe I am new, but I can tell you one thing, the CEO is trying, and yes he has issues, But If you actually take a step back and see where the game has come since I joined. Give it a chance.  I hold out for the best. When I know it’s not coming I leave.  I was always told you can get more flies with honey instead of vinegar.  Meaning, you try to explain yourself in a professional manner, you raise your points and you polite about it, you are more likely to see results.  You keep trolling someone and never give them a breath of fresh air, Yes you’re going to get no response and just a complete lack of respect on any end.  I know I am not going to change any ones thoughts in this forum on the game.  But I can say they have made changes, they are working to give a better customer experience.
 
On that note, I tell you this.  I used to hate calling game support; you would wait and wait and wait.  Now I normally can have my issue answered in a matter of moments.  They seem to be helpful and know the game somewhat.    Call me stupid, but you have to at least see that they have been trying to work on making the game better.

 

What Gwalur and you are saying in the last few posts is very right.

Anyone with a grain of salt in his head knows continuous slagging like these guys are doing has no value as such. Zerro. There is nothing constructive in it and it always reaks of subjective views (and no objectivity). Those who want to be constructive and really help with input will not come around these forums just to write how much game sucks. This to me is clear as day and night and I believe anyone, even a good bunch of people who like to spread hate know this very well. They just come here to satisfy their personal needs (and to drive away boredom). And who's the best target if not an indi game with bumpy history and gameplay rule-set that makes peopel cry irl.

 

 

  ThemePork

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Joined: 11/29/11
Posts: 317

Pork, it's like beef but not quite.

2/24/12 7:16:41 AM#25

I wish I could give this game a shot but it just won't install on my PC, their launcher just doesn't work for me (and many others it would seem).

In 15 years of PC gaming, this is the only title I haven't been able to install.

Seriously Star Vault, if you want more than 2k subs, you're gonna have to start by delivering a working launcher, this just isn't serious work from you guys.

Wish you all the best though, and hope you'll fix the launcher for the next expansion.

  StarI

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Joined: 1/18/06
Posts: 845

2/24/12 7:28:37 AM#26
Originally posted by Charas

I wish I could give this game a shot but it just won't install on my PC, their launcher just doesn't work for me (and many others it would seem).

In 15 years of PC gaming, this is the only title I haven't been able to install.

Seriously Star Vault, if you want more than 2k subs, you're gonna have to start by delivering a working launcher, this just isn't serious work from you guys.

Wish you all the best though, and hope you'll fix the launcher for the next expansion.

 

Tough luck I supose. As this kind of problems are by far not just MO specific. Personaly I had no problems with MO instalation what-so-ever. But had planty in some other "better" games in past.

 

I wish our technology was 100% error free but I'm afraid it's not and will never be.

  argirop

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Joined: 6/05/09
Posts: 326

2/24/12 8:09:00 AM#27
Originally posted by Hitman111110
Originally posted by argirop
 

 You from the other side you giving them compliments and back up when they clearly dont deserve it and you also encouraging them to do exactly the same things they are doing the last 2 years: being anything else appart professional and having their fun in expense of the customers who where naive enough to follow their cause.

Fun? You think they are having fun, I don't know about you, but I don’t think the ability to have your phone called any hour of the day ,is fun. How many games can you call the CEO and the CEO actually answers?  I don’t there is many.  Hernik has said, in not the exact words, I have heard your concerns and we are working on them. They are addressing some major issues with the game.
 
Yes I will give them compliments, they are trying the day they stop trying is the day they lose my money.  I never said I was 100% happy with the game; it has its issues as everyone has not failed to point out.  In an interview they finally announced how many people were actually working on MO the number was 5.  The statements are clear; the company is in the red.  They expect to break even soon.  Game Population is up. It does matter what time you are in the game, and yes I have seen more trial accounts more.  All I am asking is to give it a shot, wait till the expansion, play if you have not, and give them just a chance.

e.

 

 

If you think its healthy for a company and a CEO to pick up his phone and answering questions from angry customers who got banned or got stuck or got double charged is a good addition in a game then i dont think we need to drive the conversation any further than that. Its plain unprofessional as it is having GM's with guild affiliations as it is lying to your playerbase as it is asking from it to fight your wars. I guess it depends though from what each one is searching in a game. I m personally after fun and fun means the game should be playable with some content some steady developement and some nice features. If you are after following games CEO on his Twiter or having his telephone then i m sorry but we are not alike. Which one is a healthier gamer is up the the viewers to decide.

Feel free to continue doing whatever pleases you. Its a free world afterall and i m not trying to put a sock on your mouth which is exactly what you are trying to do to me. Give them compliments call them on the phone and send them flowers if it makes you feel better. My only concern on that is that if you and others keep on doing so, things will remain pretty much the same as it is the last 2 years which is pretty much a horrizontal flatline but in terms of developement and general progress. SV as long as they know they have more customers to milk, they will never be forced to change their ways. Only way for smt like that to happen will be to stop puting food on their table. I will agree that something like that might end up not only on changing their unprofessional tacticks and doing the things they are blatantly denying to do the last years (nothing more than make MO not the diamond that it was advertised to be but a somehow decent game that it will be somehow fun to play and will not drive anyone whos testing it away in a timeline of few minutes/ hours top) but it also might end up with MO shutdown and SV disapear from the map once and for all.

 

I will express my opinion here and say that i wouldnt like MO shutdown but if the only option is to be in the same state for years to come maybe its best rather than beating a dead horse with a stick or keeping it in life support with false promisses, hypocricy, unethical and lame tacticks and by creating drama and caos around the title.  Do you know how many years Henrik is working uppon community's concerns? Since day 1 and what he achieved so far by working on community's concerns? only driving away thousands of subscribers and stay behind with a minor portion of the former community (not the healthiest part if you ask me) and hiding behind diehard fans and bots.

  RefMinor

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Joined: 7/16/11
Posts: 3545

Hipster

2/24/12 8:10:57 AM#28
Well as the dr has just signed me off work for a week with a spasticated back I am going to give the 14 day free trial a shot, please feel free to check my posting history, which whilst may indicate signs of insanity, will show I am not a MO shill.
  Gwahlur

Novice Member

Joined: 8/28/11
Posts: 198

2/24/12 8:14:08 AM#29
Originally posted by Charas

I wish I could give this game a shot but it just won't install on my PC, their launcher just doesn't work for me (and many others it would seem).

In 15 years of PC gaming, this is the only title I haven't been able to install.

Seriously Star Vault, if you want more than 2k subs, you're gonna have to start by delivering a working launcher, this just isn't serious work from you guys.

Wish you all the best though, and hope you'll fix the launcher for the next expansion.

People have been saying that may be because you're trying to install it on an almost full harddrive?

 

Something about needing room for both installfiles/patches and the actual install. Maybe that could be the reason for you too

  StarI

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Joined: 1/18/06
Posts: 845

2/24/12 9:16:15 AM#30
Originally posted by argirop

Feel free to continue doing whatever pleases you. Its a free world afterall and i m not trying to put a sock on your mouth which is exactly what you are trying to do to me.

You're quite a Mr. Double Standards are you. You keep getting upset when people point your direction but you pointing at other posters and SV seems to be perfectly fine in your world. Anyway, since this is not about you..

 

Originally posted by argirop

My only concern on that is that if you and others keep on doing so, things will remain pretty much the same as it is the last 2 years which is pretty much a horrizontal flatline but in terms of developement and general progress.

This is why many of you can be easily tagged as "haters". MO has moved relatively  far (it's just a few people) since release, that is something I believe. Although I haven't played at release (avoided it due to alpha state) I know people who played it than and (at least) tried it recently and have claimed it improved milles.

On the other hand, we all know there's still planty of work to do and that it's moving slowly, but as long as they actualy show some work, it's good enaugh for many of us. That is until MO gets a proper competitor offering a better experience in similar world setting. And untill than I'm afraid you'll be busy slagging on us "fanboys".

Than again this could take a while. I mean who would want to make games who receive so much hate (as seen in MO and DF). Surely not the companies with enaugh resources. They prefer to keep their money where it's safe.

 

Originally posted by argirop

I will express my opinion here and say that i wouldnt like MO shutdown but if the only option is to be in the same state for years to come maybe its best rather than beating a dead horse with a stick or keeping it in life support with false promisses, hypocricy, unethical and lame tacticks and by creating drama and caos around the title.

 

So you believe that ffa pvp sanbox market is stagnant because MO is doing bad? And if you murder MO/SV,  it would be better somehow? I guess it would be, at least for you... you could finaly move on, yea? lol

Why can't you just accept that a small group of people are trying to follow their vision. Why does that hurt you so much? Just move on, forget MO.

Ah ye..

 

Originally posted by argirop

 Do you know how many years Henrik is working uppon community's concerns? Since day 1 and what he achieved so far by working on community's concerns? only driving away thousands of subscribers and stay behind with a minor portion of the former community (not the healthiest part if you ask me) and hiding behind diehard fans and bots.

 

What SV  displayed for all to see is how  a plan of a dev company trying to work close with players only backstabs. I've seen this so many times in last 15 years. Especially in small indi games where devs don't have armies of payed employies forming a wall between them and players. It's delussional if you think it's possible to satisfy masses of spoiled-lieing-exploiting-buthurt-raging gamers with lack of ethical values who are  hiding behind internet anonimity and mostly down to "me-me-me-me-me".

  Betaguy

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2/24/12 9:21:25 AM#31

I plan on activating today when I get home from work.  I am going to play all weekend and be the judge of whats going on.  I haven't played since release really which was horrible. I hope its a little better then it was then.

  Biskop

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2/24/12 10:39:04 AM#32
Originally posted by Hitman111110

 Give it a chance.  I hold out for the best. When I know it’s not coming I leave.

I have given it a chance - several chances, as a matter of fact.

I did hold out for the best, for over a year.

I knew it wasn't coming, so I left.

  Biskop

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2/24/12 10:43:37 AM#33
Originally posted by StarI

What Gwalur and you are saying in the last few posts is very right.

Anyone with a grain of salt in his head knows continuous slagging like these guys are doing has no value as such. Zerro. There is nothing constructive in it and it always reaks of subjective views (and no objectivity). Those who want to be constructive and really help with input will not come around these forums just to write how much game sucks. This to me is clear as day and night and I believe anyone, even a good bunch of people who like to spread hate know this very well. They just come here to satisfy their personal needs (and to drive away boredom). And who's the best target if not an indi game with bumpy history and gameplay rule-set that makes peopel cry irl.

 

 

Thanks for giving us your utterly subjective and non-objective view on the matter. 

Now will you provide us with anything constructive please, like using arguments instead of opinions to counter any of the FACTS provided by those you label "haters"?

  TruthXHurts

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2/24/12 10:47:32 AM#34

Desync and the exploiters were the two things that drove me away from this game. Besides that I loved it.

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  argirop

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2/24/12 2:39:13 PM#35
Originally posted by StarI
Originally posted by argirop

Feel free to continue doing whatever pleases you. Its a free world afterall and i m not trying to put a sock on your mouth which is exactly what you are trying to do to me.

You're quite a Mr. Double Standards are you. You keep getting upset when people point your direction but you pointing at other posters and SV seems to be perfectly fine in your world. Anyway, since this is not about you..

I m not getting upset at all. Quite the opposite. I m getting very amused when i see people claiming that the game is better than ever, that bugs are pretty much iron out of the game appart from few, that SV has great communication with customers etc etc. I m getting a lot of laughs when i see propaganda of the type lets all move on "MMORPG to create drama" from people who are afraid to make such posts on their original accounts and creating trial ones especialy for that. And yes its not about me. I m nothing but an unhappy customer... one number of the many of the same kind.

 

Originally posted by argirop

My only concern on that is that if you and others keep on doing so, things will remain pretty much the same as it is the last 2 years which is pretty much a horrizontal flatline but in terms of developement and general progress.

This is why many of you can be easily tagged as "haters". MO has moved relatively  far (it's just a few people) since release, that is something I believe. Although I haven't played at release (avoided it due to alpha state) I know people who played it than and (at least) tried it recently and have claimed it improved milles.

Well lets agree that is just a matter of how people see things. For me MO since is a paid game with AAA subscription fees did minimum progress and i blame SV for incompetence since every major patch so far was a disaster, slappy and was creating a state of caos in game... caos that was taking them months to make it somehow playable. Only somehow decent patch was TC and its sad cause i consider it "somehow decent" not because it was good or functional but because didnt came along with major gamebreaking bugs. Seeing ingame bugs that are there from Beta and SV fail/ignore to fix them and giving 0 feedback on customers that are feed up with those isnt "progress" nor even professional behaviour at least in my own agenda.

On the other hand, we all know there's still planty of work to do and that it's moving slowly, but as long as they actualy show some work, it's good enaugh for many of us. That is until MO gets a proper competitor offering a better experience in similar world setting. And untill than I'm afraid you'll be busy slagging on us "fanboys".

I m afraid its a bit more complicated than that. MO tends to "burnout" its playerbase sooner or later. Me for example i m not very patient guy in general but all this time i whitnesed people from my guild and the community in general that we use to disagree a lot cause they where be extremely optimistic concerning Mortal and SV when i was quite the opposite that through the time got so much disapointed from the game itself and how SV deal with things that not only left but they never looked back and prolly they never will.  Full loot Sandbox followers are a limited market and SV slowly but steady managed to consume them one by one and leeave them with a taste of bitterness concerning the game and the company itself.

Than again this could take a while. I mean who would want to make games who receive so much hate (as seen in MO and DF). Surely not the companies with enaugh resources. They prefer to keep their money where it's safe.

So you saying that every full loot sandbox follower should support a broken game and a crappy company just for the sake of the genre itself and the possibility for an AAA serious company to deliver games in the future?, My bet is that an attitude like that will not open the road for gaming companies to invest on sandbox titles rather than crappy companies to deliver crappy, unfinished, buggy, cheap and frustrating titles similar to MO and all the crap around that. Since you mentioned DF tbh i never wanted to play that cause simply it wasnt appealing to me. But a little bit more than one month ago that decided not to renew my subscription to MO for several reasons i thought to take a look at DF's trial. After all this time playing MO it was a nice change to play something that was actualy functional. The game had its pros and its cons. Population was pretty low, grind was a little bit over the top for my taste and the world wasnt as :real" as the one in MO. But the game felt so huge and complete that made me wonder why the hell i was playing MO for all this time and especialy in the state it was. Cant claim that 14 days was enough to see many negatives neither that i was able to explore all the aspects of the game nor to see the endgame content. But it felt that DF had actual content the same time that MO hadnt, if that makes any point you.

 

 

Originally posted by argirop

I will express my opinion here and say that i wouldnt like MO shutdown but if the only option is to be in the same state for years to come maybe its best rather than beating a dead horse with a stick or keeping it in life support with false promisses, hypocricy, unethical and lame tacticks and by creating drama and caos around the title.

 

So you believe that ffa pvp sanbox market is stagnant because MO is doing bad? And if you murder MO/SV,  it would be better somehow? I guess it would be, at least for you... you could finaly move on, yea? lol

Why can't you just accept that a small group of people are trying to follow their vision. Why does that hurt you so much? Just move on, forget MO.

Ah ye..

No. I believe ffa pvp sandbox market is stagnating because gaming companies probably cant invest much money in the genre cause apparently they know that it doesnt worth it as a bussiness investment. Also believe that MO and SV dont help at all on expanding the market for the genre and they fail on proving that there is a solid and quite big community that is hungry for the genre.

Tbh after all this time i dont see SV as a small company for chasing their vision. They are small allright and become smaller cause of terrible decissions and tacticks that costed to them losing all their playerbase and followers appart from a minor portion that stayed behind for their own reasons. At this point it doesnt make much difference if that happened cause they where unable to reach that "vision" cause of lack or resources, lack of exerience, lack of leadership, lack of education, lack of luck or whatever people tends to think of. The thing is that they did and at this point is highly unlikely to make a comeback not for any other reason but for the fact that the major part of the community who followed MO from the beggining lost all their faith to the game and they are not willing to look back. It hurts me more than you can imagine cause i had high hopes for MO and i still have the hope that a change might happen. But i dont have any hopes that SV will do that. My guess is that they are trying to bring the game in a somehow decent state and sell it to another company but that will be difficult aswell cause they manage to become a joke for the gaming industry. As it is about moving on i m sorry to say that to you but dont you think that after paying more than 80 Euro's for a boxed version that didnt came in my hands as it was supposed to be (not functional DVD), close to 35 Euros for a digital version and supporting 2 accounts on and off since the beggining, at least i feel entitled to judge them, criticise them and i think i m entitled to get some answers to my questions that being ignored on and on.Also have in mind that it will not do you any good nor MO and SV if the people who are in the same/similar shoes as mine just "move on, forget MO" so i fail to see why you saying something like that. Thousands people did that and look how things are today that MO has less than a couple of hundreds active players from whom a quite nice sum is just trials that jumping in and will simply jump out when their free 14 days will expire.

 

Originally posted by argirop

 Do you know how many years Henrik is working uppon community's concerns? Since day 1 and what he achieved so far by working on community's concerns? only driving away thousands of subscribers and stay behind with a minor portion of the former community (not the healthiest part if you ask me) and hiding behind diehard fans and bots.

 

What SV  displayed for all to see is how  a plan of a dev company trying to work close with players only backstabs. I've seen this so many times in last 15 years. Especially in small indi games where devs don't have armies of payed employies forming a wall between them and players. It's delussional if you think it's possible to satisfy masses of spoiled-lieing-exploiting-buthurt-raging gamers with lack of ethical values who are  hiding behind internet anonimity and mostly down to "me-me-me-me-me" 

Partially i will have to agree on that. SV displayed that a team like that working "so close" as you say to the community cant lead to something good appart from drama, caos, GM's getting involved in politics by taking sides and actively interferre with the gameplay like gods, raging players, eventualy leaving the game and whole gaming community laughing hard on their "achievements". Situation in MO reminds me of my childhood many years ago when me and some friends use to play Lineage II on a private server who had its base in an internet cafe store in our neighborhood. GM's in that server where 14-15 year old boys who used to give epic items (enchanted weapons/ armor, extra skills, god skills and whatever you can imagine) to younger kids in exchange for their pocket money. As you can imagine it was fun on the beggining but after a few months i remember some epic fights in the base of the server on that specific internet cafe where 10-14 year old kids punching and kicking eachother, throwing chairs, ashtrays, keyboards and breaking the store's glass doors. As you can imagine the server didnt live long and the owners of the store kick all the little troublemakers out. Thats pretty much a very similar situation with MO in a larger scale that envolves grown up people that do pay REAL money not to 14 year old kids but to 20+ year old immature young men.If your gaming carier is 15 years as you said i m also pretty sure you ve noticed that gamers are a bit hard audience. Unfortunatelly is extremely difficult to say whos on the side you mentioning and they are quite a few and who are legitimate players but real CAOS comes out when the ones you mentioning have the chance to drasticaly get involved with the game itself by becoming councilors and GM's. I think both of us among many many others saw that happening not too long ago. The only worse thing than that is when those kind of people are actualy getting involved in the management of the company we are talking about. And trust me thats a fail-fail case.

 

  Hitman111110

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2/24/12 8:33:50 PM#36
Originally posted by Biskop
Originally posted by Hitman111110

 Give it a chance.  I hold out for the best. When I know it’s not coming I leave.

I have given it a chance - several chances, as a matter of fact.

I did hold out for the best, for over a year.

I knew it wasn't coming, so I left.

Then I thank you for giving it a try and not totally fragging the game.  You put your time in, I have not put that much time in so I keep faith.

  Hitman111110

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2/24/12 8:44:30 PM#37
Feel free to continue doing whatever pleases you. Its a free world afterall and i m not trying to put a sock on your mouth which is exactly what you are trying to do to me.
If I wanted to shove a sock in your mouth I would be pull out more ammo than I am. I feel everyone is entitled to your own ideas.
Give them compliments call them on the phone and send them flowers if it makes you feel better. My only concern on that is that if you and others keep on doing so, things will remain pretty much the same as it is the last 2 years which is pretty much a horrizontal flatline but in terms of developement and general progress.
When was the last time you played?  How can you say it is flatlined, when was the last time you actually played?
SV as long as they know they have more customers to milk, they will never be forced to change their ways. Only way for smt like that to happen will be to stop puting food on their table. I will agree that something like that might end up not only on changing their unprofessional tacticks and doing the things they are blatantly denying to do the last years (nothing more than make MO not the diamond that it was advertised to be but a somehow decent game that it will be somehow fun to play and will not drive anyone whos testing it away in a timeline of few minutes/ hours top) but it also might end up with MO shutdown and SV disapear from the map once and for all.
With the lastest issue they had , I can promise you that they are re-evaluating the way they handle people and such.

 

I will express my opinion here and say that i wouldnt like MO shutdown but if the only option is to be in the same state for years to come maybe its best rather than beating a dead horse with a stick or keeping it in life support with false promisses, hypocricy, unethical and lame tacticks and by creating drama and caos around the title.  Do you know how many years Henrik is working uppon community's concerns? Since day 1 and what he achieved so far by working on community's concerns? only driving away thousands of subscribers and stay behind with a minor portion of the former community (not the healthiest part if you ask me) and hiding behind diehard fans and bots.

I am glad you will keep expression your opinions here.  I do not wish that to stop, You seem like a bit of common sense.  Why all I hear is bad things from Mortal and I have yet to have that experaince. 

 

  Hitman111110

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2/24/12 8:45:14 PM#38
Originally posted by sinjin

I plan on activating today when I get home from work.  I am going to play all weekend and be the judge of whats going on.  I haven't played since release really which was horrible. I hope its a little better then it was then.

Enjoy the time, 

 

Thanks

  kakasaki

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2/24/12 10:01:55 PM#39

Not that anyone cares and don't see the need to start a new thread so will say my peace here. While I have no faith in this game (nor will I ever) and I still think SV is a shady company, I have gotten to know a few fans of MO talking to them in PM and they seem like nice enough people that just happen to like their game. Eventhough they will never convince them their game is worth playing, I will never convince them their  game is no good. There is more to say on the subject and I can't bring anything new to the discussion as I don't intend to ever try a free trial again. So adios, MO forum. It has been fun. I'll keep lurking and being entertained by the debate (and watching the obvious marketing posts) but I'll refrain from posting in this section for the time being. Only time will tell if the game makes it or if it fails.

 

Adios and sorry for the off-topic. 

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  mehoron

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2/25/12 1:45:19 AM#40
Originally posted by kakasaki
Originally posted by argirop
Originally posted by Gwahlur

That's all well and good, and by voting with your wallet you can send the message that you're not happy with half-working sandboxes.

But actively trying to get it shut down isn't helping your cause. As long as SV is still developing MO, there's a chance it can turn into the kind of game you want. How many other studios do you think feel tempted to try to make a sandbox when they see how many people are actively trying to sabotage and get it shut down, saying "i'm trying as hard as i can to make sv bankrupt and when they do go bankrupt i'll be here laughing".

Do you really think that's sending the kind of message you want it to to other developers? I'm having trouble following that logic.

Why do you see it as active try to shut MO down? I see it as an active try to push a bunch of lazy, non creative, unrespectful bunch of young people towards the right direction which is nothing more than working in their project and make it somehow decent which is not. You from the other side you giving them compliments and back up when they clearly dont deserve it and you also encouraging them to do exactly the same things they are doing the last 2 years: being anything else appart professional and having their fun in expense of the customers who where naive enough to follow their cause.

 Very well said!

Wait you just stated that you will never have faith in the game. So why even post here at all, why not go someplace else?

 

The fact is that most everything thats brought up is just age old issues.

"same things they are doing the last 2 years: being anything else appart professional and having their fun in expense of the customers who where naive enough to follow their cause."

That doesn't make any sense either. I don't play games to invest in the company. I would rather just give their stock 15 bucks a month and buy all their shares if I want to make something off of them or follow their "cause".

When was the last time you actually looked at their projections to implementations.

Companies miss their initial marks of features ALL the time. DF totally screwed up a TON of their promises, Migrating animals, housing wasn't in till later, sieges HAH, not till WAY later as well. They EVENTUALLY made it up, but jeez! Exploiting in that game was also RAMPANT.

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