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  kobie173

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2/18/12 5:04:25 PM#21

Superniceguy, you keep insisting that TOR has suffered some mass exodus. Which is complete bullshit.

TOR is better than SWG at any point since 11/15/05, and possibly before. It amazes me how some delusional people still think that SWG would have outperformed TOR if just given the chance. SWG had its chance.

So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.

  Zekiah

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2/18/12 5:06:53 PM#22

They got their wad of cash which is all they care about. Don't waste your time with those jack wagons.

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  zakiyawow

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2/18/12 5:08:35 PM#23
Originally posted by kobie173

Superniceguy, you keep insisting that TOR has suffered some mass exodus. Which is complete bullshit.

TOR is better than SWG at any point since 11/15/05, and possibly before. It amazes me how some delusional people still think that SWG would have outperformed TOR if just given the chance. SWG had its chance.

Thats because you forgot to put on your

  kobie173

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2/18/12 5:20:18 PM#24
Originally posted by zakiyawow
Originally posted by kobie173

Superniceguy, you keep insisting that TOR has suffered some mass exodus. Which is complete bullshit.

TOR is better than SWG at any point since 11/15/05, and possibly before. It amazes me how some delusional people still think that SWG would have outperformed TOR if just given the chance. SWG had its chance.

Thats because you forgot to put on your

One of the most overused, trite phrases in the history of humanity.

SWG at its peak had fewer than a quarter of the subs that TOR does now. This is verifiable fact. Period.

So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.

  Xthos

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2/18/12 5:27:33 PM#25

SWG has been dead for a long time imo....

LucasArts is who helped ruin SWG, as no developer imo would do the drastic changes they did without LA pressuring them into it.

 

SWG needed more content, class balancing, and some buff nerfage, but not a new game made out of it...

 

So I considered it dead when I left...I got into the game late, due to a guy at work getting the wife and I to play, as high fantasy has always been my preference, so I spent a crap ton of time getting raws for like 2 months, and when I finally got everything to where i was happy, they changed it all, and a lot of the work I did was ruined, and the medic got its crafting taken, so my wife pretty much did the same with it and she got fed up...Too much work was flushed, never looked back or considered it.

 

You have more hope of the 'alternative SWG' filling your void....I do not mean SWTOR.

 

  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

2/19/12 8:38:02 AM#26
Originally posted by Xthos

SWG has been dead for a long time imo....

LucasArts is who helped ruin SWG, as no developer imo would do the drastic changes they did without LA pressuring them into it.

 

SWG needed more content, class balancing, and some buff nerfage, but not a new game made out of it...

 

So I considered it dead when I left...I got into the game late, due to a guy at work getting the wife and I to play, as high fantasy has always been my preference, so I spent a crap ton of time getting raws for like 2 months, and when I finally got everything to where i was happy, they changed it all, and a lot of the work I did was ruined, and the medic got its crafting taken, so my wife pretty much did the same with it and she got fed up...Too much work was flushed, never looked back or considered it.

 

You have more hope of the 'alternative SWG' filling your void....I do not mean SWTOR.

 


Same thing happened to me with the NGE, and then in 2009 with closure of Valcyn, and then the ultimate loss in 2011.

What kept me playing were my characters.

  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

2/19/12 8:56:27 AM#27
Originally posted by kobie173

Superniceguy, you keep insisting that TOR has suffered some mass exodus. Which is complete bullshit.

TOR is better than SWG at any point since 11/15/05, and possibly before. It amazes me how some delusional people still think that SWG would have outperformed TOR if just given the chance. SWG had its chance.

I guess you just do not miss all the things that are missing. I am not the only one, and others miss other stuff that is missing which is not in SWG.

SWTOR is just to easy, and to get to 50 is just too fast, and then  people just feel done. WIth all other MMOs, there are plenty of distractions. LOTRO after spening 500 hours in it my main character is only in its 30s.

SWG has its flaws but the systems are what keep people coming -  space, crafting, player cities and housing, Beast Master, Chronicles, collections, player BH system etc Obviously you do not care for these things, others do, and you can get most of these in other MMOs too.

It amazes me how people can just accept SWTOR to be so lacking, and say it is better than SWG or any other MMO. People are not impressed with these missing features, and it makes it a MMO not worth subscribing to. All MMOs should be designed that even the hardcore players do not max out after about 3 months, initially, then slowly made easier. eg SWG had 10 min shuttle waits, which many people just accpeted but did not take long to drop down to 1 min, then had ITVs and so forth.

  RefMinor

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2/19/12 9:56:06 AM#28
The best hope for SWG fans is that SOE reskin it as a generic space game using the final NGE engine, but I can't see them investing the cash in it as it would just raise the ire of the Pre-CU crowd who would give them endless negative publicity.
  Master10K

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2/19/12 10:01:21 AM#29

I just had to laugh when I saw this thread. People don't seem to understand the basics of business. As in Supply and Demand. Since there wasn't enough demand for SWG before (people actually subscribing to it), then SOE will sure as hell not supply it.

  Bunks

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2/19/12 10:22:43 AM#30

If you had a rally at his house, he probably would pass out a collection plate. That's how he views the fans of his products.

  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

2/19/12 11:25:33 AM#31
Originally posted by Master10K

I just had to laugh when I saw this thread. People don't seem to understand the basics of business. As in Supply and Demand. Since there wasn't enough demand for SWG before (people actually subscribing to it), then SOE will sure as hell not supply it.

There was more demand for it than DCUO or Vanguard. It would have more demand than STO if it went F2P.

  latelylucid

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2/19/12 11:29:31 AM#32

hey you all know that there is a great team currently rebuilding swg from the ground up.. pre-cu, pre-nge.. restoring swg to what is was around the time JTL came out. im surprised nobody mentioned this within this post. they have made a TON of progress recently and it is getting close..    www.swgemu.com

  TUX426

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2/21/12 9:00:50 AM#33
Originally posted by RefMinor
The best hope for SWG fans is that SOE reskin it as a generic space game using the final NGE engine, but I can't see them investing the cash in it as it would just raise the ire of the Pre-CU crowd who would give them endless negative publicity.

SOE earned that "negativity". SOE has EARNED their reputation. SOE didn't care about the customers they had, EVER...they only ever cared about the ones they DIDN'T have.

 

  TruthXHurts

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2/21/12 9:03:50 AM#34

Lately you're not allowed to talk about EMulators on MMORPG.com. YOu should edit that a little so you don't get a warning. :)

 

We should hire the 501st to storm SOE, and liberate the original code.

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  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

2/21/12 9:44:05 AM#35
Originally posted by TUX426
Originally posted by RefMinor
The best hope for SWG fans is that SOE reskin it as a generic space game using the final NGE engine, but I can't see them investing the cash in it as it would just raise the ire of the Pre-CU crowd who would give them endless negative publicity.

SOE earned that "negativity". SOE has EARNED their reputation. SOE didn't care about the customers they had, EVER...they only ever cared about the ones they DIDN'T have.

 

You can say that about any company, and getting that feeling more so with SWTOR. They are all as bad as one another, but at leat SOE responded to every single ticket I sentt them over the 8.5 years, even if it was to say "Sorry can not do". EA/Bioware on the other hand, just ignored my tickets.

 

  palulalula

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2/21/12 9:57:40 AM#36

What nostaliga can do to people is just sad :). SWG was crappy , lagy game with bad, bad pvp and with one o0f the worst game mechanic in history of mmo. Prove for this are only 50 people left on the end. Even worst f2p mmo today have for sure over 2k - 3k players, so thats speaks about quality of swg. As a big fan of SW i tried hard to play swg for few months with some breaks but on the end i was just looking in to screen and thinking in my head--'Ooo why i give so much try to this crap. And today after amazing swtor i can't even remember what was that game about.

  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

2/21/12 10:13:31 AM#37
Originally posted by palulalula

What nostaliga can do to people is just sad :). SWG was crappy , lagy game with bad, bad pvp and with one o0f the worst game mechanic in history of mmo. Prove for this are only 50 people left on the end. Even worst f2p mmo today have for sure over 2k - 3k players, so thats speaks about quality of swg. As a big fan of SW i tried hard to play swg for few months with some breaks but on the end i was just looking in to screen and thinking in my head--'Ooo why i give so much try to this crap. And today after amazing swtor i can't even remember what was that game about.

SWG was never a F2P MMO. 50 people would not have made 4 servers go full in June when the closure was announced. So obviously you do not know what you are talking about.

SWTOR is amazing for its cut secenes and story, like watching a film, but for gameplay it is nothing compared to SWG. No player cities/housing, dumbed down crafting, dumb down space, no BM or CH/BE, no chronicles type system, lack of open world environment, no Beast Master, no multiplayer vehicles etc etc. SWTOR has all the great stuff for a single player game (with multiplayer options), but for a MMO, it is severely lacking.

SWG was not perfect, it was laggy, and seriously flawed, but I would rather play with those systems, than play with nothing in SWTOR as stuff just does not exist.

  UtukuMoon

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2/21/12 10:21:03 AM#38
Originally posted by ezduzit

If there were to be a rally at the doorstep of LucasArts, where ever that may be, would you fly over to attend? Bro's, I would in a heart beat. I would buy a ticket and meet you all there. 

In the name of all MMO's , if this were to happened to any other community (It eventually will), I would support you 100%. 100% that you make it safely to the doorstep and represent us as a whole. 

This shouldn't have happened.  

 

RIP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqYcYRsjkdg

 

SWG is not dead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8ymgFyzbDo

  Elminzter

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2/21/12 10:24:54 AM#39
Originally posted by Sylvarii
Originally posted by ezduzit

If there were to be a rally at the doorstep of LucasArts, where ever that may be, would you fly over to attend? Bro's, I would in a heart beat. I would buy a ticket and meet you all there. 

In the name of all MMO's , if this were to happened to any other community (It eventually will), I would support you 100%. 100% that you make it safely to the doorstep and represent us as a whole. 

This shouldn't have happened.  

 

RIP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqYcYRsjkdg

 

SWG is not dead.

for u, but to some of us it's dead sad but true:(

  UtukuMoon

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2/21/12 10:27:08 AM#40
Originally posted by Elminzter
Originally posted by Sylvarii
Originally posted by ezduzit

If there were to be a rally at the doorstep of LucasArts, where ever that may be, would you fly over to attend? Bro's, I would in a heart beat. I would buy a ticket and meet you all there. 

In the name of all MMO's , if this were to happened to any other community (It eventually will), I would support you 100%. 100% that you make it safely to the doorstep and represent us as a whole. 

This shouldn't have happened.  

 

RIP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqYcYRsjkdg

 

SWG is not dead.

for u, but to some of us it's dead sad but true:(

Nope,you have just stopped playing it,that does not mean it's dead,as for me,i don't play it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8ymgFyzbDo

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