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I am building a pc atm and ready to buy it... my limited is $1,500 - 1,700...
My first build was this amd FX 4100k 3.6ghz quadcore Thermaltake Frio OCK CPU Cooler GigaByte GA - 970A - D3 AMD 970 Socket AM3+ ATX Mainboard w/ On/Off Charge, 7.1 Audio, GbLAN, USB 3.0, SATA-III RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe X16, 3 PCIe x1 and 2 PCI 8GB DDR3/1600MHz dual channel memory AMD Radeon HD 6870 1gb PCIe ( I am thinking on getting 2 of these cards... Opinions on this please) 850w power supply tb harddrive I was going to go for a SSD card but i heard that it was really worth it soo I rather not drop the money on one and try and put the money else where :D
I am needing help on building a solid gaming computer that i can run any game on very high settings.. this is my first gaming pc.. and i want it to be worth it ^_^ |
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2/10/12 8:20:10 AM#2
You can build a really nice rig for 1500. You can go with Intel with that kind of money. Quiz is really good at helping people out with this. Are you going to need a keyboard, mouse, and monitor? Go with an SSD |
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2/10/12 8:28:03 AM#3
1. SSDs are worth it. 2. Why choose AMD CPU over Intel? There's no compelling reason, IMO. 3. I prefer a more powerful single-gpu card over crossfire. AMD makes good GPU hardware, but their driver support continues to have problems, especially with crossfire support. Did you know AMD has yet to release official 7970 drivers? Yup, the card has been on the market for about a month and you're still forced to use beta drivers. |
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2/10/12 8:31:13 AM#4
spend some time on tomshardware he does a monthyl best cpu for hte money and best gpu for the money he also does regular system builds for x amount of money so take a look at what he has built recently and his reasonings |
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2/10/12 10:42:21 AM#5
That's not a bad build, apart from getting two mid-range video cards rather than one high end one. But if you drop one of the vdieo cards, it's more like an $800 build than a $1500 build. So if you found a site that wants to charge you $1500 for that, then maybe you should look elsewhere. On your budget, you want a Core i5 2500K, together with a P67 or Z68 motherboard. AMD is a nice budget option, but the high end is all Intel. Next, don't get two mid-range video cards. You're better off with one high end card. You might want to look at a Radeon HD 7950 for that. Just saying an 850 W power supply doesn't actually specify the power supply. Quality matters, too, and more than the nominal wattage. Let's see the exact brand name and model. And where are you going to buy the parts? |
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2/10/12 10:46:33 AM#6
I second what quiz states.
Sic Luceat Lux |
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Guy I really appreciate the builds but I got impatient and just built one about lunch time eastern time This is what I bought: Please Tell me if I fcked up ^_^
I dont really go for Intel so I didnt get it but this is my build and I already ordered it CAS:Thermaltake Chaser MK-1 Full Tower Gaming Case W/ Side Panel Window CPU: AMD FX-4170 4.20 GHz Quad-Core AM3+ CPU 4MB L2 Cache & Turbo Core Technology FAN: * Thermaltake Frio OCK CPU Cooler (Designed for Over-Clocker King) HDD: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD MOTHERBOARD: * [CrossFireX] GigaByte GA-970A-D3 AMD 970 Socket AM3+ ATX Mainboard w/ On/Off Charge, 7.1 Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe X16, 3 PCIe X1 & 2 PCI POWERSUPPLY: 850 Watts - CoolerMaster Silent Pro Gaming 80 Plus Power Supply VIDEO: AMD Radeon HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card Sorry I got impatient but I really wanted to buy my gaming rig and hopfully I did I good job ^_^ I guess we will find out :D and to answer you question were i am getting the parts at.. I am a ROOKIE at putting together a computer and I really dont trust myself atm to do so.. I know were to put the stuff and how to install it.. but I just didnt want to chance it and went to cyberpowerpc and yes I know that was probably the most rookie's mistake i could of done.. but doing cross prices from each site (newegg vs cyberpower) it wasnt that big of a difference.. or maybe i just messed that up tooo lol |
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2/10/12 8:14:31 PM#8
Originally posted by Djevik *facepalm* Why do people do this? Well, I hope that at the very least, you didn't actually spend anywhere near $1500-$1700. Don't try to overclock the processor, as while the CPU cooler can handle it, the motherboard you picked can't. |
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2/10/12 8:49:24 PM#9
At cyberpower that is a $1100 comp. With those parts and nothing else upgraded. yes, I am very bored. |
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Originally posted by AudricMr that is how much i spent.. and sorry Q I got excited and impatient.. :D I wont be over clocking anything, since i dont know how to do it and I really dont have the desire to either ^_^ again sorry for getting so impatient but Did i do alright? |
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2/11/12 6:31:09 AM#11
i think i know your reasoning in chosing amd instead of intel (you probably read the opencl article on tomshardware) it is a fairly new concept tho .and nobody know how this stuff wil actually pan out.but if your into the type of stuff the opencl article mention they cover in the futur 8 other article,ya amd make sense since nvidia is very far and i aint even sure intel support opencl lol.dont forget micrsoft directcompute tho .in my view opencl has a big headstart because almost all the party be it mobile or not have opencl or will soon ,aside from intel.as we know intel isnt very strong in mobile like smartphone and we already know arm love the idea put together by the opencl group .so yes a 4100 would probably be way sufficiant if opencl is your plan 1 |
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its not about all that.. I am just a AMD kinda of person I guess.. Intel is great in all but I rather go with amd since that is what I have always used... if that makes sense :D waiting on Q to get back and tell me if i still FCKED up or did alright ^_^ |
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2/11/12 11:23:55 AM#13
Originally posted by Djevik You could have done worse, and most people who get unduly impatient probably do do worse than that. If you're not overclocking, then the processor heatsink is a waste of money, as the stock heatsink is adequate for the processor at stock speeds. But at least that's only wasted money, and not also bad performance. Your processor doesn't seem to exist. Or at least AMD says it doesnt, and New Egg doesn't sell it. It looks like it's basically an overclocked FX-4100. The video card is a nice enough choice. There were several "good" options that you could have gone with, depending on your budget, and you picked one of them. The power supply is all right, but not that great. It won't cause problems for you, though--unlike a number of the other power supplies they offer. And not just the generic ones, either; the Thermaltake TR2 is garbage, and I'd distrust Raidmax anything, too. The Corsair TX650 V2 is both better and cheaper than what you picked, but you still did better than one would expect from picking a power supply at random. On a large budget, you could have had an SSD. But at least you can say that you didn't pay for an SSD. I was somewhat worried when you said your budget was $1500-$1700, and then you listed parts. Because $1500 for what you got is a terrible deal. $1100 is perhaps still overpriced (the power supply and processor heatsink are the big culprits), but certainly a lot less bad. I hope you did get Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, as the default is to have no OS, to keep the starting price down. |
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Quiz is here the info on the cpu i got
now that i look at that and look at this
I dont notice any difference.. a couple friends that have custom built pc helped me a little and they looked at the cpu and told me it wasnt overclocked and now thinking of it I paided 30 bucks more for it then the 4100 so I am thinking now it is OC'ed.. hmm
Now you said the mobo cant handle the cpu being OC'ed so should I call them and have it switched out? or what?
hmm Well thanks for telling me I didnt totally fck up.. and I really Appreciate you commenting back..
for future upgrades when the time is right.. can you link a mobo and power supply and other things I shouldv'e of went with from newegg.. and i will bookmark this so I never have to ask again :P
Thanks again quiz..
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2/11/12 12:13:15 PM#15
Here's AMD's official list of FX processors on the market: http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors/amdfx/Pages/amdfx-model-number-comparison.aspx I don't see an FX-4170 on that list. It's possible that AMD is going to release it very shortly, and CyberPower PC merely jumped the gun. New Egg will sometimes do that, and start selling parts a day or two before the offiical release. Zambezi has been out for several months now, so it's probably about time for AMD to release higher bins of the chips. Regardless, what you really want is to not go over 125 W. If the processor is 95 W or 125 W at stock speeds (and AMD hasn't gone above that since a short-lived 140 W bin of the Phenom II X4 nearly three years ago), then it should work fine with the motherboard. ----- The trouble with power supplies is that new products launch, old ones get discontinued, and a lot depends on the price. If the power supply you picked were $70 cheaper, I'd say, yeah, great choice. You don't need really high end quality on a power supply. You do need something good enough that it's unlikely to ever cause problems for you, and you got that. The problem is that you could have gotten it for $40 cheaper. Power supplies are a major pain to evaluate as few people have the equipment to properly test them, so there are only a few good review sites for them. And if a power supply hasn't been reviewed by one of those sites, then there's no real way to know if it's good. Well, sometimes you can tell from the specs that it's garbage, but sometimes you can't, even if it is terrible. And even the good power supply reviews are hard to decipher if you don't know what their measurements mean. |
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Originally posted by Quizzical Your right its not on that list at all so it made me want to go research it a bit and I found this http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-FX-Series%20FX-4170%20FD4170FRW4KGU.html which it was said to be release Q4 2011 but found a thread on toms site that it is being released in Q1 2012.. hmm I tried to understand what was being said on that site lmfao but have no clue.. all i know is it is avaible in 95w and 125w so either or I will be fine since you said 95 or 125.. |
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I had them cancel the order b/c the cpu isnt even out yet.. like you said Quiz i am going to go threw what you have said here and try to build something good..
I guess i will build it from new egg instead seeing how you prefer this right?
I am going to need links bro honestly..
again budget is 1,500 I got a monitor, cyborg m.m.o 7 mice just need a key board and what not.. like i said this is my first computer and i want it to last me a great awhile ^_^ but be a BEAST at the same time.. example i want to play tera high settings, GW2, battlefield 3.. high settings help me out here...
btw I need everything to get it up and running.. cords whatever it might be.. lmfao so please dont forget anything I still want to stick with AMD cpu |
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Quiz this is my attempt on new egg let me know Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129100 Hard Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697 Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128510 Cd Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276 Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153136 KeyBoard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109191 Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231501 Cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103996 120mmCaseFans x7 : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103073 200mmCaseFan x1: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200028 HeatSink: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103089 No video card yet b/c I dont know what to buy yet for video.. that 7950 is 500 bucks? grand total so far is $996.00 |
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2/11/12 4:06:41 PM#19
Hang on and I'll come up with something. I just got back from the grocery store. You know it's cold outside when you can see icicles hanging from your eyelashes. I've had ice in my moustache quite a few times, but I do think this is the first time I've had it in my eyelashes. |
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Originally posted by Quizzical I remember those days like when i was a kid in northern PA in the states.. but now I live in Virginia and last night was the first time we got snow and it was less then a 1/4 inch. and the temps are like 50-60 one day and 30-40 the next lol I added the 7950 to the cart and the total came out to 1423 but the thing is the heatsink I have doesnt go with AM3+ it supports up to AM3 I am glad I was going through everything and trying to figure out if everything goes together.. |
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