Hey, free-to-play done right is okay with me.  I do wish there were another moniker for it, though.

Well it does have crap load of content...so for a f2p game, I think it's well worth the try or even playing for a while.

I mean, last I heard, the game has become a lot more noobie friendly, which is alo main reason hardcore players left, because L2 hasn't really been L2 since C5.

good for NCSoft.  this is a great game, that never took off in the west like it could have.  The F2P model for this game is the BEST I have ever seen and I think SOE should take a serious look at this to see where EQ could be if they implemented something similar and did away with their flawed interpretation of F2P.

Sorry, L2 was pure P2W Cash Shop when I played it. I also was disappointed that they have NCoins for L2 and PP (Paragon Points) for CoX (City of Heroes/Villains). Why? Because (PC-wise) it's SC (Station Cash) for DCUO, Clone Wars, Free Realms, and EQ2 (and potentially EQ when they make it F2P later this year). You can also subscribe to ALL of them with All Access for $20 per month.

Originally posted by 77lolmac77
Lets see if people attack these numbers the way Bioware's were.

Wait, NCsoft is making Guild Wars 2...

These numbers are fact, nothing to see here

I hope you are kidding right now.  NCSOFT and bioware/EA are noth PUBLICLY traded companies.  the ignorant people who attacked biowares numbers obviously never owned a share of stock in their lives...kinda like you.  Maybe you should educate yourself on the laws, rules and requirements PUBLICLY traded companies are bound to by the SEC. 

These results don't surprise me at all.  It's an awesome game.

I played it til I got sick of seeing the Dark Elves running by.  Why does EVERY asian game have a class that runs all slanted? Seriously do people run like that in Asia somewhere, maybe the really fast people do

 Heh ,NCSoft had a special on their item shop for Botting starter kits or something?  Ban botting on LA2 and the game will die by the end of the year.

Seriously , who the hell plays NCSoft titles? ... of course no one will raise their hands , all botting, LOL! :P

Originally posted by Maki2

Originally posted by 77lolmac77



Lets see if people attack these numbers the way Bioware's were.







Wait, NCsoft is making Guild Wars 2...







These numbers are fact, nothing to see here

 

ArenaNet is making Guild Wars 2.

 

ArenaNet is a NC Soft Company

Actually these numbers can lie.

1. Does this include actual players, or Bot Accounts, for example are they taking statistics based on IP address, and actual players not like one person has two accounts and plays etc.

2. This does not excuse their poor customer support, and number of hacked accounts since the game went F2P, All my gear was ripped off of me, this was NcSofts fault for not adding a secondary password on release of the game like they should have.

3. Does this include all those people/dwarfs that are sitting down and selling items too?

Lineage 2 May have got a good boost, but I will not be playing Lineage 2 until NcSoft does something to fix my account because of their mistakes as a paying customer for years to their game my account was stripped, who knows maybe there will be a major hijacking of a lot more players accounts, or something then people will see how their customer service really is I have no idea but I know I was reading their forums and a lot of people beyond myself had the same problem when the game went F2P we couldn't have all been phished or keylogged either.

Just wait until TERA's release, honestly I really don't care what NCsoft claims about legal issues either, I hope that Tera wins due to NCsofts poor customer service and can actually make NCsoft loose some profit for what they caused in all my loss of items with no customer support it will serve them right.

Also Facebook, and Twitter mean nothing, can't prove that it isn't a lot of people with multipel accounts who click the like button on the same game or anything, so it means nothing and I could care less about the social network as 280 Thousand is not a lot.

These are simply the hard facts, and I doubt NCsoft can give me an exact number of how many people are playing right now this second not including the people sitting in town selling stuff which is simply bot accounts made by other players or people who sell stuff, and the actual number of people botting, or gold sellers in the game, if they can't provide these numbers then they are not accurate.

Lineage 2 was a great game in the past, but now requires major fixes before it will be worth playing again, and better customer service who can help people who have been illegally looted instead of we are sorry we cant do anything and give the player the wrong set of bound gear worth nothing and a bound weapon worth nothing.

Originally posted by Renoaku

Actually these numbers can lie.

1. Does this include actual players, or Bot Accounts, for example are they taking statistics based on IP address, and actual players not like one person has two accounts and plays etc.

2. This does not excuse their poor customer support, and number of hacked accounts since the game went F2P, All my gear was ripped off of me, this was NcSofts fault for not adding a secondary password on release of the game like they should have.

3. Does this include all those people/dwarfs that are sitting down and selling items too?

Lineage 2 May have got a good boost, but I will not be playing Lineage 2 until NcSoft does something to fix my account because of their mistakes as a paying customer for years to their game my account was stripped, who knows maybe there will be a major hijacking of a lot more players accounts, or something then people will see how their customer service really is I have no idea but I know I was reading their forums and a lot of people beyond myself had the same problem when the game went F2P we couldn't have all been phished or keylogged either.

Just wait until TERA's release, honestly I really don't care what NCsoft claims about legal issues either, I hope that Tera wins due to NCsofts poor customer service and can actually make NCsoft loose some profit for what they caused in all my loss of items with no customer support it will serve them right.

Also Facebook, and Twitter mean nothing, can't prove that it isn't a lot of people with multipel accounts who click the like button on the same game or anything, so it means nothing and I could care less about the social network as 280 Thousand is not a lot.

These are simply the hard facts, and I doubt NCsoft can give me an exact number of how many people are playing right now this second not including the people sitting in town selling stuff which is simply bot accounts made by other players or people who sell stuff, and the actual number of people botting, or gold sellers in the game, if they can't provide these numbers then they are not accurate.

Lineage 2 was a great game in the past, but now requires major fixes before it will be worth playing again, and better customer service who can help people who have been illegally looted instead of we are sorry we cant do anything and give the player the wrong set of bound gear worth nothing and a bound weapon worth nothing.

Well then dont play the game. This is just a QQ Rant and its pointless.

These numbers dont really tell us much without more information. 

"Population increases by 800%" could mean = Our game stunk so bad only 20k people were still playing it but now that it is free, we have 160k who are playing.  160k for a free game is not really that much.

Profits increases by 400% could mean = We were only making 300k per month and after paying for servers and the 10 man team we were losing money.  In the last two months we made 1.2 million but it was mostly due to people buying the things they needed just to play the game like inventory space since we start them out with so few slots.  We dont expect to make this kind of money in future now that everyone bought inventory and bank space plus a needed weapon.

Not saying this stuff is true, just saying that without the base numbers from which these figures are made, we really dont know anything other than they made a bit more money than they were making.  There is no way to know if that will continue.  These same announcements were made when every other game went F2P during their first two months.

I quit a few weeks after F2P. The bots were popping up in droves, i haven't seen a Bot train since Franz and C5 until the 2nd day of F2P. I also didn't like the new grind, i've done it once and quite honestly i just don't have time for it anymore. Mentor system is great but the subclass from 40 to 85 without a mentor is absolutely brutal. 85-99 i hear is going to take quite awhile for any legit player, the game has revereted back to C5 IMO.

Though if i were to gripe and the largest issue i have.. after so many damn years the same freaking glitches and bugs are still in the game. Not to mention insane burden this game places upon a PC. I finally had to uninstall because my machine was being thrashed. After a reformat i'm back to running normal and can play other more superior games without my system crying.

One of the only programs that can seriously bitchslap a well built machine. Is it so hard to optimize..?

Originally posted by ThaneUlfgar

If it truly is, I'm glad to see this game doing well. From what I've seen of it, it looks like a good game. I've never tried it, but I have always wanted to.

  I beta'd it (and got the game/first month for my efforts) but determined it wasn't for me.  Still nice to see the game doing well though!

Originally posted by Mannish

Originally posted by Maki2

Originally posted by 77lolmac77



Lets see if people attack these numbers the way Bioware's were.



Wait, NCsoft is making Guild Wars 2...



These numbers are fact, nothing to see here

ArenaNet is making Guild Wars 2.

ArenaNet is a NC Soft Company

Bioware is a EA company but people don't say SWTOR or Mass Effect was made by EA.

Lineage 2 was a hardcore KOREAN GRIND game, where you needed to play(GRIND) 1 year each day 8 hours to reach maximum level.

Has it actaully changed? I'm asking because I don't know anymore :/

"NCSoft has almost quadrupled its revenue in two months"

Im happy for you NCSoft, now how about spend some part of this "revenue" in "bot fight" ?

Thanks in advance...

The only reason the game is overpopulated is not because the playerbase has increased, but for the fact that L2 was one of the largest private server playerbase MMOs for the last 6-7 years. Now the game's free there is not much reason to play in crappy/modded/java emulated servers anymore and even though the game itself is much worse than the previous chronicle (won't go into reasons on this as there's probably a text limit on comments), obviously thousands of players switched to retail because they have been playing crap servers for years and years. And about 30% of each server's population are just bots too.

However, the few good privates with official files on previous chronicles still have larger populations than retail (4 to 7k online each world).

Originally posted by usagichan77

Lineage 2 was a hardcore KOREAN GRIND game, where you needed to play(GRIND) 1 year each day 8 hours to reach maximum level.

Has it actaully changed? I'm asking because I don't know anymore :/

if ncsoft wasn´t that dumb and fixed early rates and actually cared about bots this game would have been nr2 in west also. I´m mean private servers were and are for years full of players and tons of them are out htere.