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This is not my video. I found it on youtube and I agreed with every point the author made. The reasons he list are also the reasons why I quit. Why I Quit SWTOR: The 30 Minute Saga... (Star Wars PvP & Gameplay) "The WoW forums are and have always been, the true heartbeat of the game. Having said that... RIP wow. You had a good run." - MAnalog 10/13/10 So WoW is dead? |
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Distopia
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Joined: 11/22/05
If it contains the words video and game, it must be a WOW clone. |
2/06/12 1:39:07 AM#2
I'd rather you just write it out (why you quit), rather than watch a 30 minute video to find out. :) For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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2/06/12 1:47:24 AM#3
See you back when everything gets fixed? |
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2/06/12 2:05:42 AM#4
Let's do Coke! ( then play SWTOR) ! |
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Some of the big ones: -Knockback galore. Annoying in multiple level warzones. -Abilities generally not "fun". No cool abilities like blink, bubble, frost nova, sheep, totems, shadowstep, disengage, mind control, spirit link, bladestorm, army of the dead, ect. There is a charge, a little sprint, and a pull ability, but thats it. -Healing is just pressing same buttons over and over again. No skill involved. Defensive cooldown manangement amounts to little to nothing. -Cast bar disappears randomly (linked to ability delay) -Ability delay lowers the pace of combat. Hinders pvp because global cooldown, cast animation, and cast bar are not in sync. Contrary to what people think, Ability delay effects EVERYBODY. -Camera snapping (smart camera permanently on). -Nameplates not clickable. -Raid frames are not always accurate. (That raid frame showed a player at 100% but he was really at 25% and vice versa). - Ilium being a massive zerg fest. Dropping FPS to less then 10. (Experienced this in warzones as well). - Overall low skill cap to separate good players from bad players. Proper LOS'ing, fake casting, faking interrupts, cooldown management, ect all are thrown out the window. - Login screen times extremely long. "The WoW forums are and have always been, the true heartbeat of the game. Having said that... RIP wow. You had a good run." - MAnalog 10/13/10 So WoW is dead? |
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2/06/12 2:14:53 AM#6
He summed up everything he was going to say in the first few mins when he said "Perfection is Warcraft." It's quite evident that he is a mega WOW fanboy from watching this. Additionally, there was already a thread about it weeks ago. "The keys are in your hands. Realize you are sole creator... of your own madter plan" - Dimmu Borgir, Gateways |
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Originally posted by mmoguy43 IDK - I went through this exact same experience when Warhammer came out in 2008 - that is being extremely disappointed with lackluster mechanics. I think i'm just going to stay clear of all MMOs that EA and Mythic touch. "The WoW forums are and have always been, the true heartbeat of the game. Having said that... RIP wow. You had a good run." - MAnalog 10/13/10 So WoW is dead? |
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Originally posted by Souldrainer He gives valid arguments on what WoW does better then SWTOR. He played SWTOR wanting to like it and wanting to see it succeed. Ignoring his valid arguments makes you a SWTOR fanboy. "The WoW forums are and have always been, the true heartbeat of the game. Having said that... RIP wow. You had a good run." - MAnalog 10/13/10 So WoW is dead? |
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2/06/12 2:19:31 AM#9
Originally posted by TheHavok I never ignored his arguments, but he needs to redo the video without talking about WOW. "The keys are in your hands. Realize you are sole creator... of your own madter plan" - Dimmu Borgir, Gateways |
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Originally posted by Souldrainer http://auditorydepredation.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/1326231905169.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j144/jason2444/1326918056033.jpg http://imageshack.us/f/26/hereyago.png/ http://imageshack.us/f/12/swtorif.jpg/ Oh I'm sorry - I shouldn't compare SWTOR to WoW because SWTOR is a unique little snowflake that developed all of its ideas by itself. "The WoW forums are and have always been, the true heartbeat of the game. Having said that... RIP wow. You had a good run." - MAnalog 10/13/10 So WoW is dead? |
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2/06/12 2:28:45 AM#11
Originally posted by TheHavok oh the irony when comparing it to WoW lol
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2/06/12 2:30:53 AM#12
Just watched the vid and I agree with the points addressed 100%. It's really shocking how most of the game features were designed, almost as if BW/EA never intended to maintain subs but just planned to keep players for the short term(1-3 months). I've tried many MMOs but never have I experienced such piss-poor performance/optimization as I have in this game. |
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2/06/12 2:30:56 AM#13
The video maker made some points, and did so clearly. It was his opinion, which was stated many times. I don't find any fault in his opinion. Yeah he compared it against wow, but guess what, that's what ea/bioware have been doing since they thought about making this game. Why can't the players use the same comparison?
The Deep Web is sca-ry. |
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Originally posted by miagisan
Please don't be confused: I'm not trying to say that WoW originated all the features we find in its game, i'm agreeing with the author on the problems with SWTOR and how WoW has a better system. Please don't turn this into a "BUT EQ DID IT FIRST HERP DE DERP" argument. I'm not going there. "The WoW forums are and have always been, the true heartbeat of the game. Having said that... RIP wow. You had a good run." - MAnalog 10/13/10 So WoW is dead? |
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2/06/12 2:36:02 AM#15
Yet when you play Kingdoms of Alamur, you wan't complain about how much they ripped off from BioWare. |
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2/06/12 2:36:32 AM#16
Originally posted by TheHavok i was laughing when you said "I shouldn't compare SWTOR to WoW because SWTOR is a unique little snowflake that developed all of its ideas by itself." i just thought it was humorous since wow doesnt have an original developed idea in all its coding (ok the art is a bit original)
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2/06/12 2:37:00 AM#17
Originally posted by Toxia I'd say he's 30% spot on, and 70% rhetoric that reverts back to his thinking that "perfection is Warcraft." A Jedi consular is not an EZ-mode WOW paladin, and was never meant to be. It was never worth 30 minutes of time to watch him whine about his consular not being his WOW paladin. "The keys are in your hands. Realize you are sole creator... of your own madter plan" - Dimmu Borgir, Gateways |
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Originally posted by miagisan I see. Well to stir this back on course: We should compare SWTOR to WoW, and to EQ before it if they share a mechanic or feature in each game. Nothing wrong with doing that to make a valid point about a failed system. "The WoW forums are and have always been, the true heartbeat of the game. Having said that... RIP wow. You had a good run." - MAnalog 10/13/10 So WoW is dead? |
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2/06/12 2:41:30 AM#19
Originally posted by TheHavok oh dont get me wrong, its ok to compare the games, was just humorous when i read it...carry on :)
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Originally posted by Souldrainer He played a Mercenary Bounty Hunter specced into heals. Clearly you didn't watch the video so your opinion is now moot and void until you do. FURTHERMORE, since you lied about watching the video, I am going to assume you are a liar and cannot be trusted in future conversations. GOOD DAY SIR. "The WoW forums are and have always been, the true heartbeat of the game. Having said that... RIP wow. You had a good run." - MAnalog 10/13/10 So WoW is dead? |
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