Originally posted by Dracill
Ummm... some people feel that the game is bland...other people feel thaw game is good.

There is anything that makes one of the groups feelings more important than the other?

This remember me that some people think that their beliefs are better than those of others.

give it a couple months we'll see which sides thoughts over this game were stronger...i know where i'd put my money... everyone has their own opinion doesn't mean their opinion is shared by the majority whatever that opinion may be

Re-running content on an alt can still be enjoyable if the classes themselves play differently enough from one another to let you experience the same environments in a totally different way.   I can imagine having a second go through being particularly onerous if there's little to set it apart from the first. 

Maybe if the gameplay was a little more inspired, seeing the same areas again wouldn't be so monotonous.

Originally posted by sanosukex

Originally posted by Dracill
Ummm... some people feel that the game is bland...other people feel thaw game is good.

There is anything that makes one of the groups feelings more important than the other?

This remember me that some people think that their beliefs are better than those of others.

give it a couple months we'll see which sides thoughts over this game were stronger...i know where i'd put my money... everyone has their own opinion doesn't mean their opinion is shared by the majority whatever that opinion may be

Why does it matter who is in the majority? That's the question of the day for me.

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Originally posted by sanosukex

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Originally posted by Dracill
Ummm... some people feel that the game is bland...other people feel thaw game is good.

There is anything that makes one of the groups feelings more important than the other?

This remember me that some people think that their beliefs are better than those of others.

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give it a couple months we'll see which sides thoughts over this game were stronger...i know where i'd put my money... everyone has their own opinion doesn't mean their opinion is shared by the majority whatever that opinion may be

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Why does it matter? What is the end game of all this? I told you so? Do you feel like you won if TOR loses subs? What about all the people that are just playing the game or all the people that unsubbed and moved on without a word? Why does it always have to be a line drawn with this "us v them" attitude? I mean ffs we are a minority within a subgenre as it is. Why do we have to further segregate an already tiny community on these forums?

Originally posted by DannyGlover

 

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Originally posted by sanosukex

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Originally posted by Dracill
Ummm... some people feel that the game is bland...other people feel thaw game is good.

There is anything that makes one of the groups feelings more important than the other?

This remember me that some people think that their beliefs are better than those of others.

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give it a couple months we'll see which sides thoughts over this game were stronger...i know where i'd put my money... everyone has their own opinion doesn't mean their opinion is shared by the majority whatever that opinion may be

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Why does it matter? What is the end game of all this? I told you so? Do you feel like you won if TOR loses subs? What about all the people that are just playing the game or all the people that unsubbed and moved on without a word? Why does it always have to be a line drawn with this "us v them" attitude? I mean ffs we are a minority within a subgenre as it is. Why do we have to further segregate an already tiny community on these forums?

Yea I must agree you went a bit over board Sano.

Originally posted by Distopia

Originally posted by sanosukex

Originally posted by Dracill
Ummm... some people feel that the game is bland...other people feel thaw game is good.

There is anything that makes one of the groups feelings more important than the other?

This remember me that some people think that their beliefs are better than those of others.

give it a couple months we'll see which sides thoughts over this game were stronger...i know where i'd put my money... everyone has their own opinion doesn't mean their opinion is shared by the majority whatever that opinion may be

Why does it matter who is in the majority? That's the question of the day for me.

because obviously for a game like this if people feel its the greatest MMO ever and for whatever reason majority agree then the game will go on to be an huge success for many years if the people who feel this game is epic failure and those end up being the majority the game will go on to be another failed MMO in the grand scheme of things

Originally posted by DannyGlover

 

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Originally posted by sanosukex

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Originally posted by Dracill
Ummm... some people feel that the game is bland...other people feel thaw game is good.

There is anything that makes one of the groups feelings more important than the other?

This remember me that some people think that their beliefs are better than those of others.

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give it a couple months we'll see which sides thoughts over this game were stronger...i know where i'd put my money... everyone has their own opinion doesn't mean their opinion is shared by the majority whatever that opinion may be

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Why does it matter? What is the end game of all this? I told you so? Do you feel like you won if TOR loses subs? What about all the people that are just playing the game or all the people that unsubbed and moved on without a word? Why does it always have to be a line drawn with this "us v them" attitude? I mean ffs we are a minority within a subgenre as it is. Why do we have to further segregate an already tiny community on these forums?

Quite right, no one should complain about anything. I for one look forward to more poorly conceived games with complete design input from the stock holders and producers. Who are we to tell them how to make the products we purchase?

Originally posted by RizelStar

Originally posted by DannyGlover

 

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Originally posted by sanosukex

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Originally posted by Dracill
Ummm... some people feel that the game is bland...other people feel thaw game is good.

There is anything that makes one of the groups feelings more important than the other?

This remember me that some people think that their beliefs are better than those of others.

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give it a couple months we'll see which sides thoughts over this game were stronger...i know where i'd put my money... everyone has their own opinion doesn't mean their opinion is shared by the majority whatever that opinion may be

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Why does it matter? What is the end game of all this? I told you so? Do you feel like you won if TOR loses subs? What about all the people that are just playing the game or all the people that unsubbed and moved on without a word? Why does it always have to be a line drawn with this "us v them" attitude? I mean ffs we are a minority within a subgenre as it is. Why do we have to further segregate an already tiny community on these forums?

Yea I must agree you went a bit over board Sano.

I usually don't have this us vs them mentallity.. look at my history and I try to have debates about issues I find with the game.. wasn't trying to make it seem like i'm promoting a us vs them type thing in these forums even if sometimes it sounds that way.. i just like people openly expressing their opinions and trying to get constructive feedback about the topics both good and bad..

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Originally posted by rounner

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Originally posted by DannyGlover
 

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Originally posted by sanosukex

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Originally posted by Dracill
Ummm... some people feel that the game is bland...other people feel thaw game is good.

There is anything that makes one of the groups feelings more important than the other?

This remember me that some people think that their beliefs are better than those of others.

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give it a couple months we'll see which sides thoughts over this game were stronger...i know where i'd put my money... everyone has their own opinion doesn't mean their opinion is shared by the majority whatever that opinion may be

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Why does it matter? What is the end game of all this? I told you so? Do you feel like you won if TOR loses subs? What about all the people that are just playing the game or all the people that unsubbed and moved on without a word? Why does it always have to be a line drawn with this "us v them" attitude? I mean ffs we are a minority within a subgenre as it is. Why do we have to further segregate an already tiny community on these forums?

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Quite right, no one should complain about anything. I for one look forward to more poorly conceived games with complete design input from the stock holders and producers. Who are we to tell them how to make the products we purchase?

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Originally posted by sanosukex

Originally posted by RizelStar

Originally posted by DannyGlover

 

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Originally posted by sanosukex

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Originally posted by Dracill
Ummm... some people feel that the game is bland...other people feel thaw game is good.

There is anything that makes one of the groups feelings more important than the other?

This remember me that some people think that their beliefs are better than those of others.

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give it a couple months we'll see which sides thoughts over this game were stronger...i know where i'd put my money... everyone has their own opinion doesn't mean their opinion is shared by the majority whatever that opinion may be

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Why does it matter? What is the end game of all this? I told you so? Do you feel like you won if TOR loses subs? What about all the people that are just playing the game or all the people that unsubbed and moved on without a word? Why does it always have to be a line drawn with this "us v them" attitude? I mean ffs we are a minority within a subgenre as it is. Why do we have to further segregate an already tiny community on these forums?

Yea I must agree you went a bit over board Sano.

I usually don't have this us vs them mentallity.. look at my history and I try to have debates about issues I find with the game.. wasn't try to make it seem like i'm promoting a us vs them type thing on these forums even if sometimes it sounds that way.. i just like people openly expressing their opinions and trying to get constructive feedback about the topics both good and bad..

Yea you know I've seen most your posts, I think it might be best to word things differently or take a break. The more you stress the issues the more it seems you take a different direction in word choice, to were it's a "fair" view to a "unfair" view or true nasty PVP from [you].

Some issues are obviousely known and apparent, I.E the OP, so I can see it being fustrating when someone says it's entirely untrue.

As well as stuff like this being accepted, but I don't think we'll see MMOs have same quest design like these at least the next two AAA MMOs aren't like this so, I SWTOR can and might be the last MMO with this Quest design regardless if it's successful or not.

Time will tell.

Originally posted by TheeazD

Originally posted by sanosukex

Originally posted by Distopia

Originally posted by sanosukex

Originally posted by DJJazzy

So you repeat quests and that makes it different than all of the other mmos how?

the fact that they designed the planets to be so linear so phased so uninspired you have no desire to actually go through them multiple times/

Right because all other MMO content is so insprired?

I have never ever played a AAA mmo that had this much of a bland planet design or had such heavily phased linear zones. It does'nt take much to make it show the dev's put some work into the zones and I don't get the feeling in this game at all

Dude you are all over almost every SWTOR thread whining and complaining.  Give it a rest, we get you don't like the game.

i been followed like 3 or 4 threads last couple days I hardly say thats all over also where am I whining? complaining yes.. giving reason why yes.. if you don't like what I have to say just don;t read my posts

Originally posted by sanosukex

Originally posted by Distopia

Why does it matter who is in the majority? That's the question of the day for me.

because obviously for a game like this if people feel its the greatest MMO ever and for whatever reason majority agree then the game will go on to be an huge success for many years if the people who feel this game is epic failure and those end up being the majority the game will go on to be another failed MMO in the grand scheme of things

Is it all that important to the discussion whether TOR becomes a success or a failure? To me it's not, my opinion wouldn't change either way, I'm sure that's the case for most people.

As Glover said, what's the end goal of such a topic? An I told you so? I don't get posters who have that agenda, it's rather juvenile IMO. Reminds me too much of all that "tag" bs we see around here.

haters gonna hate who cares, not Bioware not me, the game as flaws will be adressed, if you dont like it leave, if you like it, play it like i do and i'm sure that by the time GW2 is out SWTOR will be much more solid with way more content and with less bugs, oh and rated WZ's awsome. Thanks ArenaNet for taking your time to release the game, if it had gonne live till March or so, it would have been bad for SWTOR.

Originally posted by Distopia

Is it all that important to the discussion whether TOR becomes a success or a failure? To me it's not, my opinion wouldn't change either way, I'm sure that's the case for most people.

As Glover said, what's the end goal of such a topic? An I told you so? I don't get posters who have that agenda, it's rather juvenile IMO. Reminds me too much of all that "tag" bs we see around here.

Considering the fact that these forums are largely used for forum PVP and that SWTOR is the biggest release in the genre in many years, it's likely to be a futile effort in trying to dissect the reasons why people feel the need for the "'told ya so's".

A lot of people posting really do have the intention of pissing others off, and the rest are probably in the boat of looking to talk about a huge title that recently launched on a website dedicated to the particular genre it falls into.

Welcome to internet forums ;) 

  Linear, repetive and boring  , cant be fixed ..The core mechanics of this game are terrible , all they can do now is add more terrible...

  Just takes some folks longer to realize it as the glitter and shine that they saw dulls...

So? Few Bioware games have much replayability, they are not built that way. Neverwinter nights was the exception due to all player made modules.

Did you actually think that leveling up more than one toon on each side should be fun? Heck, that ain´t fun in most other MMOs either and the more specific the quests get the less fun are they the third time you do them.

Biowares idea have always been that a game should be really fun the first time you play it, not that you should play it over and over. Just imagine playing BG or ME many times...

But maybe they should have let leveling be a bit slower since they knew this...

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Originally posted by Scorchien
  Linear, repetive and boring  , cant be fixed ..The core mechanics of this game are terrible , all they can do now is add more terrible...

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Wait, are you talking about the forum pvp here or TOR?

Originally posted by DannyGlover

 

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Originally posted by Scorchien
  Linear, repetive and boring  , cant be fixed ..The core mechanics of SWToR  are terrible , all they can do now is add more terrible...

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Wait, are you talking about the forum pvp here or TOR?

    Fixed .. just for you