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  zevni78

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2/08/12 10:21:28 AM#741
Originally posted by ThorHal
Originally posted by zevni78

Frogster had damn well better have a sneak peak this weekend to make up for not only the last one but also that we in the EU dont get CB1 till the 17th.

I bet you smile like once a week. Always so negative...

I am when I am faced with yet another pre-order I will regret, in the last 2 yrs we've had so many mmo disasters, from STO or G & H, to FFXIV, to Xyson, to Swtor (re: it's pvp at least), that’s a lot of cash wasted, and if TERA is going to give me yet another case of buyer's remorse, I may give up on mmos altogether, as we have seen so many others do on these forums, I mean, can you blame them?
 
TERA seems more doomed than even the others did, with companies literally trying to destroy it, and Frogster, the worst service provider in Europe giving me no reason to be confident, no matter how much I enjoy the watching the game's footage. (damn that is so much better to look at than the eyesore that was swtor's "art" style). At this rate Gw2 may be the only good mmo of the year, as Rift was last year, (though hopefully we shouldn’t feel like we are stuck with the best of the worst this time).
  zevni78

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2/08/12 10:42:04 AM#742
Originally posted by PsychoPigeon

Test extended for an unknown amount of time

Thanks for head's up, I'm in and it's running well, how odd.

  PsychoPigeon

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OP  2/08/12 7:49:32 PM#743

Well after playing the U.S test it certainly seems like they've moved servers to maybe Texas, my ping isnoticeably different.

 

Already seen Zotics running around, looks like it'll be SC's next game

  zevni78

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2/08/12 8:17:01 PM#744
Well, after 10 hrs solid, I can give my first impressions
 
Pros:
 
The combat requires you to stay awake, and be situationaly aware, makes a change. It really is skill based, I was almost able to solo the first boss you meet, and at lvl 12 I took on a lvl 22 mob, and after a very long fight, dodging and CCing I was just able to win.
 
The graphics are not only the best of any mmo, but run very smoothly, (apart from the capital at times, with slow fps and certain npcs loading in slowly).
 
The music, combat fx and ambient sounds are just right.
 
The controls are good, if using keyboard and mouse, but seemed off when using control pad.
 
The social hubs and mechanisms seem to work well, lots of dualing, and other activities.
 
Cons:
 
The main attack using left mouse button needed to be mashed a great deal, maybe better using control pad, but then you have issues with the other attacks, camera positioning, and targeting.
 
The quests are all kill 10 rats, with redundant npc conversations, (a common problem in westernised mmos).
 
The world outside the directed quest areas are empty, and feel unfinished, after I got my horse I explored randomly around the capital, no critter, mobs, but the occasional building, or npc, with seemingly no function.
 
There are two mini maps, one a radar with blips, and no environment details, the other for quest, npc navigation, taking up a 4th of the screen, not very efficient.
 
Certain quests areas are not shown on the maps, and can be confusing, a great many people where constantly asking for directions all the time.
 
The area chat was full of non-english conversations, this may get on player's nerves, hopefully there will be seperate servers for English, Frence, German etc, and at least at this time, many, many nonsense spamming trolls made their presence felt, worse chat I’ve seen ever. People you meet in the open world however are very nice.

 

All in all, TERA is a mix of old and new, new combat around a dated questing formula, it will be interesting to see how many prefure this from other new mmos that have it the other way round, such as RIft, Swtor and GW2.

 

 

  User Deleted
2/08/12 11:24:03 PM#745
Originally posted by zevni78
Well, after 10 hrs solid, I can give my first impressions
 
Pros:
 
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"The main attack using left mouse button needed to be mashed a great deal, maybe better using control pad, but then you have issues with the other attacks, camera positioning, and targeting."

You can hold down the left mouse button for continuous damage. Not much button smashing on my end. In fact, way better than shitty old tab target system.

 

"The world outside the directed quest areas are empty, and feel unfinished, after I got my horse I explored randomly around the capital, no critter, mobs, but the occasional building, or npc, with seemingly no function."

Maybe someone who could explain more about this? To me it seems as if that has its function and it may be tied to the lore. I didn't get that far through the Velika quests. Looks like a big nice area to have non-instanced housing as well or major PvP battles.

Have you ridden around to the other zones? There are no walls or instances blocking your path like in certain other games which cost a fortune to make. 

 

"The area chat was full of non-english conversations, this may get on player's nerves, hopefully there will be seperate servers for English, Frence, German etc, and at least at this time, many, many nonsense spamming trolls made their presence felt, worse chat I’ve seen ever. People you meet in the open world however are very nice."

It's been confirmed there will be more server types. We'll have servers for English, German and French at releaseI too was highly annoyed by the Area chat but one musn't forget, many of the chat trolls did not pre-order. They are freeloaders. Upcoming betas will only have people who pre-ordered or won a key through other means, not really give-aways.

  PsychoPigeon

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OP  2/09/12 6:20:48 AM#746
Originally posted by zevni78

 

All in all, TERA is a mix of old and new, new combat around a dated questing formula, it will be interesting to see how many prefure this from other new mmos that have it the other way round, such as RIft, Swtor and GW2.

 

 

When I played swtor and Rift all it was was  x amount quests, what do you mean they were different? GW2 will be the same thing, just because it has random 'rifts', like in Rift which weren't even that fun, doesn't mean it's a new formula. TERA is even implementing that random event thing although I don't see why because who wants more pve. You'll be happy to know Blade&Soul has kill x amount quests too.

  zevni78

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2/09/12 8:00:32 AM#747
Originally posted by PsychoPigeon
Originally posted by zevni78

 

All in all, TERA is a mix of old and new, new combat around a dated questing formula, it will be interesting to see how many prefure this from other new mmos that have it the other way round, such as RIft, Swtor and GW2.

 

 

When I played swtor and Rift all it was was  x amount quests, what do you mean they were different? GW2 will be the same thing, just because it has random 'rifts', like in Rift which weren't even that fun, doesn't mean it's a new formula. TERA is even implementing that random event thing although I don't see why because who wants more pve. You'll be happy to know Blade&Soul has kill x amount quests too.

For me TERA's questing and open world PVE lacked the innovative features from those other mmos, I loved the rifts and invasions, especially when they took over quest hubs, they helped to make the open world feel alive. Maybe not a major step up, but better than nothing, though yes the quests themselves were mundane, it’s this combination of the regular and dynamic that liked.
 
In swtor, yes the quests can be broken down into fetch, kill 10 etc, but the story, presentation, npc interaction before and after each quest, and the fact that the kill 10... quests where optional bonuses really helped to make the PVE more immersive, I found that I missed talking npcs and the cut scenes in TERA. As for GW2, we can only imagine how the open world PVE questing will be, but they are definitely trying to introduce new mechanisms, that apply to all the content, TERA is focusing on innovating the combat, not anything else for open world questing, and BH clearly haven’t got the polish on their quests that we are used to from western mmos. And then there is WoW, I much prefer the mini-game, vehicle, and other fun variety in the cata-outland and northrend quests to just kill 10...
 
You may disagree with the results of these innovations, but at least they are trying.
 
The point however is that TERA may be able to get away with the rudimentary questing as the combat is more involving, I certainly intend to try out every class, and cannot wait for closed beta, so I am convinced, but how many others will be? Given how much is riding on a western success, it is an important question.
 
As to who wants more PVE? How about most mmo players? PVP is either a niche focus outside of FPS mmos, or something for endgamers, you need a lot of good PVE, to keep people past the first month, too flesh out the world, it’s this lack of it that has cost so many other mmos, western and eastern, it is what people see in the game first, it is the glue that hold everything together in open world. Many people need to be coaxed into pvp, after becoming familiar with the world, and their class, not have it forced on them, as was a complaint with AION for e.g.
  zevni78

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2/09/12 8:12:23 AM#748
Originally posted by NBlitz

You can hold down the left mouse button for continuous damage. Not much button smashing on my end. In fact, way better than shitty old tab target system.

Thanks, I really wish i had known that earlier, I havn't the fingers i once did. I hope this applies to sorc, which class where you?

 

Maybe someone who could explain more about this? To me it seems as if that has its function and it may be tied to the lore. I didn't get that far through the Velika quests. Looks like a big nice area to have non-instanced housing as well or major PvP battles.

I was thinking of housing too, but it would be a major pain to implement I imagine, just some trees, and mobs would do for now. Its a bit odd they didnt flesh out the area, as the first thing some players would do it ride off randomly when they first get the mount.

 

Have you ridden around to the other zones? There are no walls or instances blocking your path like in certain other games which cost a fortune to make. 

 

Oooh, force-burn. I didnt get to do much after lvl 12, hopefully my toon will not be deleted so i can explore more during CB1. For me open world is everything, I may play C9 for e.g. but never spend any money on it.

 

It's been confirmed there will be more server types. We'll have servers for English, German and French at releaseI too was highly annoyed by the Area chat but one musn't forget, many of the chat trolls did not pre-order. They are freeloaders. Upcoming betas will only have people who pre-ordered or won a key through other means, not really give-aways.

 

Good to know, I really hate ending up in a pug with a tank that can't speak english, been happening in WoW a lot lately for some reason. I know the trolls will go after launch, but I worry about the first impression they set for the other would-be buyers.

 

I really hope we get to play more before CB1, I find I miss it already.

 

  User Deleted
2/09/12 9:13:16 AM#749
Originally posted by zevni78
Originally posted by NBlitz

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"Thanks, I really wish i had known that earlier, I havn't the fingers i once did. I hope this applies to sorc, which class where you?"

I was warrior this time around, as I'm planning on making a warrior my main. It applies to all the classes, as far as I can remember.

 

"Oooh, force-burn. I didnt get to do much after lvl 12, hopefully my toon will not be deleted so i can explore more during CB1. For me open world is everything, I may play C9 for e.g. but never spend any money on it.

Feel the burn lol. 

Someone else made a thread in these subforums with pictures of him just going off exploring as soon as he was able to get to Velika. Not sure if you saw it ^^

 

"I find I miss it already."

I know what you mean :) It easily feels like home to me. Of course I'm also anxiously waiting for the rest of the titles in my sig.

  Herodes

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2/09/12 11:17:15 AM#750


I saw somewhere that the En Masse servers will let America,Europe and Austrilia play together on full release, is that true?
25m Tera Europe Tera Europe @TeraEurope


@noireblackheart There is no ip block for those regions, it's the same on our side for those regions, no block for these countries.



@TeraEurope Sorry for asking again, but does this mean we will be able to play with America and Australia when the full release is out?
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@noireblackheart They can play on our servers, if the choose to buy the EU version.If you want to play on US server ->EME account is needed.



  Aruken

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2/09/12 11:32:18 AM#751

does someone know when they plan to lift the character creation limitation?

  dimasok

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2/09/12 6:19:31 PM#752

I have to say that I played the game on the test servers and god its bad.. the only thing good about is the graphics and the combat holds some interest due to its non-dicey nature... but other than that, it does everything worse than other mmos. Just having to click a button to access my mouse is a big turn-off for me.

So thanks for the beta key, I know I will not touch it now :)

  Pivotelite

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2/09/12 7:39:03 PM#753
Originally posted by dimasok

I have to say that I played the game on the test servers and god its bad.. the only thing good about is the graphics and the combat holds some interest due to its non-dicey nature... but other than that, it does everything worse than other mmos. Just having to click a button to access my mouse is a big turn-off for me.

So thanks for the beta key, I know I will not touch it now :)

How does this work, you like the combat but hate you have to press a button which takes one second to access your mouse?

 

The way the combat works your mouse is the aimer so it's the only way this could possibly work...some people confuse the hell out of me.

  Pivotelite

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2/09/12 7:46:49 PM#754
Originally posted by zevni78
 
 
The world outside the directed quest areas are empty, and feel unfinished, after I got my horse I explored randomly around the capital, no critter, mobs, but the occasional building, or npc, with seemingly no function.
 
 

 

I have speculations for this, the main cities, Kaiator, Allemantheia and Velika all share this feature, for a decent area around the city there are no enemies, this actually makes sense.

 

Why would monsters be right outside a main cities wall? Wouldn't it be guarded and all the monsters killed or kept at a fair distance, it only seems realistic imo.

  darker70

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2/09/12 7:51:03 PM#755
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by dimasok

I have to say that I played the game on the test servers and god its bad.. the only thing good about is the graphics and the combat holds some interest due to its non-dicey nature... but other than that, it does everything worse than other mmos. Just having to click a button to access my mouse is a big turn-off for me.

So thanks for the beta key, I know I will not touch it now :)

How does this work, you like the combat but hate you have to press a button which takes one second to access your mouse?

 

The way the combat works your mouse is the aimer so it's the only way this could possibly work...some people confuse the hell out of me.

Yeah it's not really hard to work out this is exactly how Fallen Earth did it,and it's the only way this type of game would work as u aim with the mouse one key press back to normal UI,or u can use gamepad.

  Aruken

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2/09/12 8:28:14 PM#756
Originally posted by darker70
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by dimasok

I have to say that I played the game on the test servers and god its bad.. the only thing good about is the graphics and the combat holds some interest due to its non-dicey nature... but other than that, it does everything worse than other mmos. Just having to click a button to access my mouse is a big turn-off for me.

So thanks for the beta key, I know I will not touch it now :)

How does this work, you like the combat but hate you have to press a button which takes one second to access your mouse?

 

The way the combat works your mouse is the aimer so it's the only way this could possibly work...some people confuse the hell out of me.

Yeah it's not really hard to work out this is exactly how Fallen Earth did it,and it's the only way this type of game would work as u aim with the mouse one key press back to normal UI,or u can use gamepad.

the option to play it like wow (holding the right button of the mouse) would have been nice anyway

  Pivotelite

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2/09/12 8:38:30 PM#757

Well I personally love the setup, it's all a matter of opinion. I feel TERA has the best combat of any MMO i've played by far.

  dimasok

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2/09/12 10:16:47 PM#758
Originally posted by Pivotelite

Well I personally love the setup, it's all a matter of opinion. I feel TERA has the best combat of any MMO i've played by far.

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  dimasok

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2/09/12 10:19:13 PM#759
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by dimasok

I have to say that I played the game on the test servers and god its bad.. the only thing good about is the graphics and the combat holds some interest due to its non-dicey nature... but other than that, it does everything worse than other mmos. Just having to click a button to access my mouse is a big turn-off for me.

So thanks for the beta key, I know I will not touch it now :)

How does this work, you like the combat but hate you have to press a button which takes one second to access your mouse?

 

The way the combat works your mouse is the aimer so it's the only way this could possibly work...some people confuse the hell out of me.

I like the combat idea but the implementation does leave a lot to be desired for. I know people are comparing it to the regular combat in mmos but I happen to enjoy it more in Rift, SWTOR or others. If I need an action game I can go to any other non-mmo action game where the combat is way better and more fluid anyways, so why is everyone going gaga over the simple mechanic TERA has? Its unreal engine 3, its pretty. But that's it. Its the mother of all grinds based on the quests I did and the impressions I read.

  PsychoPigeon

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OP  2/10/12 6:00:40 AM#760
Originally posted by dimasok
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by dimasok

I have to say that I played the game on the test servers and god its bad.. the only thing good about is the graphics and the combat holds some interest due to its non-dicey nature... but other than that, it does everything worse than other mmos. Just having to click a button to access my mouse is a big turn-off for me.

So thanks for the beta key, I know I will not touch it now :)

How does this work, you like the combat but hate you have to press a button which takes one second to access your mouse?

 

The way the combat works your mouse is the aimer so it's the only way this could possibly work...some people confuse the hell out of me.

I like the combat idea but the implementation does leave a lot to be desired for. I know people are comparing it to the regular combat in mmos but I happen to enjoy it more in Rift, SWTOR or others. If I need an action game I can go to any other non-mmo action game where the combat is way better and more fluid anyways, so why is everyone going gaga over the simple mechanic TERA has? Its unreal engine 3, its pretty. But that's it. Its the mother of all grinds based on the quests I did and the impressions I read.

'Mother of all grinds'? And going to a 'non-mmo action game' doesn't make sense if people are looking for an mmo with realtime combat. Just sounds like you never really tried it properly or got good at it. Get yourself in a decent clan and dominate other players before you worry about the piss-easy levelling. Judging from your previous posts you definitely come off as one of those anti-social types that play MMOs then wonder why they get bored.

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