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  snapfusion

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Joined: 7/17/11
Posts: 976

2/05/12 10:16:34 AM#61
Originally posted by freakky

OP you don't even say what you like about the game. I don't understand Open post to Bioware on a site they wont read? I'm playing it and enjoy the story telling mostly and few skills and graphics. Zoning system is great also. I feel raiding is lacking. Only 2 raid zones but they got different  settings like hard and nightmare. Hard and nightmare have same loot. Also can do 8 or 16man raid both the same loot and content. 

 

I'm honestly over the the story telling part of the game. Once you take that away there isn't much to the game. Hard mode instance for lvl 50 get boring after you done them all. Kaon patch they been working on for year before release and haven't let it all out yet. If it took them that long to make that how long will it take them for newer content?

I'm not trying hate on anyone enjoying the game. Enjoy it and have fun. That is great. I just feel I will get bored with it soon and I'm sure I'm not alone on that. I still have bit of hope it will get better but also little unsure about that.

So because he didtn provide you a laundry list of why he does like it he therefore must not really like it?  I dont understand what your trying to imply.  The subject of the post was not WHY I LIKE SWTOR its a sampling of his thougths on a number of areas in the game and of peoples behavior.  Though its great you found some way to discredit his opinion.

  Kuinn

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Joined: 1/10/11
Posts: 2002

2/05/12 10:47:58 AM#62
Originally posted by sanosukex
Originally posted by RizelStar
Originally posted by sanosukex
Originally posted by Kuinn
 

 

So this is a single most dissapointing game of all times, when you are a themepark fan (tor - check), Star Wars (tor - check), tor also has very similar gameplay and story telling like KOTOR and Dragon age. Does that make you a liar or a troll?

 

And, no it's not the greatest game of all times, not even close, still having helluva lot of fun with it.

putting words in my mouth I said to ME its the most dissapointing game "I was looking forward to"

but to me after getting level 20+ on several characters the game was not fun at all and just another boring clone made to sell copies of spoon fed garbage to the masses trying to capitalize on a huge IP.. call me what you want but from my history of games and what I like I should love this game but don't  because to me it's just not a good game.

 

also your checklist is how I feel they made this game without actually putting any depth or real thought into making it.

sano your not allowed to be dissappointed by this game, it's not normal.

heh wel lI know someone will fire back and say well I must not be allowed to LIKE the game.. either way I was just more or less trying to explain why I hang around here and post my feelings for the game. I have very strong feelings for the IP and MMOs in general as they are a BIG hobby for me. I tried my hardest to get enjoyment out of this game. I quit mid january. Then picked my sub back up and gave it another week with multiple differn't characters to try and find some enjoyment.. to me I just can't get passed the horribly generic classes and talent trees not to mention the same damn combat we have played for the last decade(taking out auto attack does not change the fact combat is the exact same we have seen since EQ1).. it just feels so wrong swinging a lightsaber at a little critter over and over and it not dying in one slice. Everything just feels wrong and to me its a disgrace to the IP and wish they just went with a mass effect MMO then I'd have no issues just saying hell with this one and move on..  always hoping for that miracle patch I'm sure will never come..

 

The same damn combat we have been playing not actually for the last decade but more like the last 15 years across all genres FPS, RTS, etc. Pick any game from the shop that is not a title that failed for trying to be too original, and you have played "that same old boring gameplay" before. I'd agree with you if you'd say "This game could have had FPS style controls to shine out more in the mmorpg front" and even still we would have been doing the same old boring gameplay across the FPS games in the past 15 years.

 

You also described KOTOR lightsaber combat, you hit rats in KOTOR with lightsaber without them dying, also the combat is a lot more slow in KOTOR generally speaking and the storytelling VO's arent on par with TOR. Pretty much the same goes when comparing to Dragon Age except that the world and setting is different. These are facts. It just does not make a lot of sense when you put it like that.

 

Anyway, keep on trucking if it makes you happy.

  sanosukex

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Joined: 4/08/05
Posts: 1857

2/05/12 10:59:18 AM#63
Originally posted by Kuinn

 

 

The same damn combat we have been playing not actually for the last decade but more like the last 15 years across all genres FPS, RTS, etc. Pick any game from the shop that is not a title that failed for trying to be too original, and you have played "that same old boring gameplay" before. I'd agree with you if you'd say "This game could have had FPS style controls to shine out more in the mmorpg front" and even still we would have been doing the same old boring gameplay across the FPS games in the past 15 years.

 

You also described KOTOR lightsaber combat, you hit rats in KOTOR with lightsaber without them dying, also the combat is a lot more slow in KOTOR generally speaking and the storytelling VO's arent on par with TOR. Pretty much the same goes when comparing to Dragon Age except that the world and setting is different. These are facts. It just does not make a lot of sense when you put it like that.

 

Anyway, keep on trucking if it makes you happy.

i didn't like the combat much in KOTOR because of this but I did like you actually made effects on how people reacted toward you depending on choices yuo made which doesn't happen in this game aside from inside your own story. Also I enjoyed the dialog in dragon age much more than I did in TOR. At least I didn't have ot here my guy in dragon age say the same line over and over and over in every single side quest(some dialog was recycled but not even close to as much as I see in TOR) 

but yes its true combat is pretty much the same in all types of games if you go back.. does that mean it can't be changed?  does it mean the devs can't be creative with spells and attacks and effects so it doesn't feel like you are doing the exact same thing over and over and over just like you have been doing forever in every game before? It goes even further in this game when every class basically has almost the same types of abilities with the same knockbacks same stuns same everything... anyway if a games wants to stick out from the rest they try something new something differn't something to really bring the genre forward.. some people feel the story is what did it for TOR but to me the story is just a nice wrapper to a an unispired game with nothing left but same clone stuff we have seen since EQ1. Just makes me sad in 2012 this is how far the genre has come when this game is considered by many the pinnacle of the MMO genre.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html

  Irish

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Joined: 1/09/04
Posts: 263

2/05/12 11:11:13 AM#64

People with varying opinions of an experience? Unheard of!

Well, hate to troll and leave, but I'm enjoying TOR. See you gameless nomads in another month or so when I come back to feel better that I'm having a good time!

WOOOT WOOOOOOT!

/logout

  Kuinn

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Joined: 1/10/11
Posts: 2002

2/05/12 11:11:31 AM#65
Originally posted by sanosukex
Originally posted by Kuinn

 

 

The same damn combat we have been playing not actually for the last decade but more like the last 15 years across all genres FPS, RTS, etc. Pick any game from the shop that is not a title that failed for trying to be too original, and you have played "that same old boring gameplay" before. I'd agree with you if you'd say "This game could have had FPS style controls to shine out more in the mmorpg front" and even still we would have been doing the same old boring gameplay across the FPS games in the past 15 years.

 

You also described KOTOR lightsaber combat, you hit rats in KOTOR with lightsaber without them dying, also the combat is a lot more slow in KOTOR generally speaking and the storytelling VO's arent on par with TOR. Pretty much the same goes when comparing to Dragon Age except that the world and setting is different. These are facts. It just does not make a lot of sense when you put it like that.

 

Anyway, keep on trucking if it makes you happy.

i didn't like the combat much in KOTOR because of this but I did like you actually made effects on how people reacted toward you depending on choices yuo made which doesn't happen in this game aside from inside your own story. Also I enjoyed the dialog in dragon age much more than I did in TOR. At least I didn't have ot here my guy in dragon age say the same line over and over and over in every single side quest(some dialog was recycled but not even close to as much as I see in TOR) 

but yes its true combat is pretty much the same in all types of games if you go back.. does that mean it can't be changed?  does it mean the devs can't be creative with spells and attacks and effects so it doesn't feel like you are doing the exact same thing over and over and over just like you have been doing forever in every game before? It goes even further in this game when every class basically has almost the same types of abilities with the same knockbacks same stuns same everything... anyway if a games wants to stick out from the rest they try something new something differn't something to really bring the genre forward.. some people feel the story is what did it for TOR but to me the story is just a nice wrapper to a an unispired game with nothing left but same clone stuff we have seen since EQ1. Just makes me sad in 2012 this is how far the genre has come when this game is considered by many the pinnacle of the MMO genre.

 

Yeah I get it already that you dont like the game, and I dont think that you are "wrong" or anything with that (how can anyone be wrong with tastes or opinions anyway). It still doesent make sense how you compare the game to others so similar to it and say it's horrible when the others are fine or even great, to me Kotors and DA's are very similar games to TOR, TOR simply being bigger and a multiplayer. Repeating dialog is what we often do in IRL too, you are good example at repeating your "dialog" in these forums, that's not a problem, like my agent saying "The job's done, easy" for 16 times, or Sorc saying "You're weak and a fool" actually that line I cant get enough of, also something that I'd repeat my self propably if I was a sith warrior is "You reek of fear" as he does.

 

Anyway, I dont see a lot of people finding this game the pinnacle of mmorpg genre, just a good game that people have fun with, at least that's how I see it and pretty much everyone I know who plays it...

  sanosukex

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Joined: 4/08/05
Posts: 1857

2/05/12 11:17:59 AM#66
Originally posted by Kuinn
Originally posted by sanosukex
Originally posted by Kuinn

 

 

The same damn combat we have been playing not actually for the last decade but more like the last 15 years across all genres FPS, RTS, etc. Pick any game from the shop that is not a title that failed for trying to be too original, and you have played "that same old boring gameplay" before. I'd agree with you if you'd say "This game could have had FPS style controls to shine out more in the mmorpg front" and even still we would have been doing the same old boring gameplay across the FPS games in the past 15 years.

 

You also described KOTOR lightsaber combat, you hit rats in KOTOR with lightsaber without them dying, also the combat is a lot more slow in KOTOR generally speaking and the storytelling VO's arent on par with TOR. Pretty much the same goes when comparing to Dragon Age except that the world and setting is different. These are facts. It just does not make a lot of sense when you put it like that.

 

Anyway, keep on trucking if it makes you happy.

i didn't like the combat much in KOTOR because of this but I did like you actually made effects on how people reacted toward you depending on choices yuo made which doesn't happen in this game aside from inside your own story. Also I enjoyed the dialog in dragon age much more than I did in TOR. At least I didn't have ot here my guy in dragon age say the same line over and over and over in every single side quest(some dialog was recycled but not even close to as much as I see in TOR) 

but yes its true combat is pretty much the same in all types of games if you go back.. does that mean it can't be changed?  does it mean the devs can't be creative with spells and attacks and effects so it doesn't feel like you are doing the exact same thing over and over and over just like you have been doing forever in every game before? It goes even further in this game when every class basically has almost the same types of abilities with the same knockbacks same stuns same everything... anyway if a games wants to stick out from the rest they try something new something differn't something to really bring the genre forward.. some people feel the story is what did it for TOR but to me the story is just a nice wrapper to a an unispired game with nothing left but same clone stuff we have seen since EQ1. Just makes me sad in 2012 this is how far the genre has come when this game is considered by many the pinnacle of the MMO genre.

 

Yeah I get it already that you dont like the game, and I dont think that you are "wrong" or anything with that (how can anyone be wrong with tastes or opinions anyway). It still doesent make sense how you compare the game to others so similar to it and say it's horrible when the others are fine or even great, to me Kotors and DA's are very similar games to TOR, TOR simply being bigger and a multiplayer. Repeating dialog is what we often do in IRL too, you are good example at repeating your "dialog" in these forums, that's not a problem, like my agent saying "The job's done, easy" for 16 times, or Sorc saying "You're weak and a fool" actually that line I cant get enough of, also something that I'd repeat my self propably if I was a sith warrior is "You reek of fear" as he does.

 

Anyway, I dont see a lot of people finding this game the pinnacle of mmorpg genre, just a good game that people have fun with, at least that's how I see it and pretty much everyone I know who plays it...

main thing is those same games are either 1. single player games or 2. released many years ago.

when I played TOR i get the feeling I'm playing a game from years ago not a ppolished 2011-2012 game.. now this meaning can be differn't for many people but for me if I'm siting through a brand new big budget game and I get that sense of deja vu at almost every turn I feel it fails in many areas. When the game plays and feels and looks like a game released a decade ago its an issue. Not to everyone but to me it is. I LOVED original zelda but if skyward sword played just like the NES version of the game with some fancy voiceovers MOST people would be furious. Just saying why is it ok for this game to not feel like a 2011-2012 game ?

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html

  Littlebomb

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2/05/12 11:50:24 AM#67
Originally posted by Kalmarth
Originally posted by Littlebomb
Originally posted by garry

Forums and posts - thousands of them so I thought I would toss my op in the mix.

 

Bioware - I am a 66 year old retired game designer (PnP). I looked forward to the new SWTOR, played a couple Betas, bought the DDE and am now playing. I want to congratulate you on a job well done. Are there some problems and bugs? Sure - just like EVERY OTHER MMO EVER LAUNCHED! I still like and have fun because the positive aspects of the game outweigh the negatives - by far - for me. Others who have different opinions state them, often, repeatedly, loudly and range from plain disappointment (normal) to outraged quitting obscenity. Puzzled as to why anyone would go thru so much time and effort, again repeatedly, to bash a simple video game, but have decided that it is simply some form of human nature.

 

Just as 'NEWS' organizations give priority to horrifying and 'bad' news, so do review organizations do the same. What works for the reputable news works for the new guys on the block as well. I decided to post instead of playing right now cause I have to go walk the dogs first. Then I will resume my game being a very lucky retired person who can play as much as I like.

 

And I like playing SWTOR. I have 3 characters, Jedi Knight, Smuggler and a new Trooper. Have some Empire characters I am looking forward to playing. I know the bug fixes and updates are coming, not really worried. So once again, well done Bioware and I am enjoying the game.

The reason I bash the game is because I spent 120$ plus tax on the game and the game is bad.

When I buy bad part's off of Newegg.com I also review the product and leave my thoughts and opinions.

When I buy electronic's and I like the product I leave a good review on Newegg and also my thoughts.

 

Simply put as a customer who bought two copies of the game (one of which was due to bad customer service forcing me to purchase a second copy if I wanted to play after Dec 20th) like myself has as much right to inform other consumers that this is a bad product.

I'm sure new mmo player's might like SWeator but anyone who's really played mmo's to any high level will be dissapointed. The game's ability lag alone in pvp was enought o get me to quit. (playing League of Legends last night on a champ that has a .75sec ability to dodge any skill shot........lol SWTOR can't even get abilities to fire off in 1 second much less dodge a enemies skill.)

 

If people choose to listen or not to reviews from gamer's then that is their choice.

The game is only bad in your view, millions or players like it and it has got rave reviews from a ton of magazines, so unless they are all deluded.

It sound more to me that you paid $120 for a game, and now your mad because it is not exaclty what you wanted it to be, and now your are venting your anger, how about you give it some time, WoW was not perfect in the first month, or 2nd or 3rd, neither was EQ or EQ2 or many many other games.

So breath.

Did you even read  my post?

I knock the game down because it's a poorly made, designed game. 

Just like any product review on the interenet. 

Would you like me to make yet another list of all the places SWTOR fails or have you read enough of those yet?

 

I'm not mad either as much as dissapointed that another good dev is now junk because of EA's selfish corporate structure. You know why they care more now about profit's than Quality? Because everyone that work's at EA is more concerened with getting a few years in a executive seat (so that they're set for life) than producing quality products.

 

SWTOR is simply a bad product end of story. I'm not getting personal about it just like I'm not getting personal about a ASUS motherboard that had dead connections on it.

I simply write a review and inform others about a poor product.

  Littlebomb

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Posts: 158

2/05/12 11:58:24 AM#68
Originally posted by Qazaam
Originally posted by Littlebomb
Originally posted by garry

Forums and posts - thousands of them so I thought I would toss my op in the mix.

 

Bioware - I am a 66 year old retired game designer (PnP). I looked forward to the new SWTOR, played a couple Betas, bought the DDE and am now playing. I want to congratulate you on a job well done. Are there some problems and bugs? Sure - just like EVERY OTHER MMO EVER LAUNCHED! I still like and have fun because the positive aspects of the game outweigh the negatives - by far - for me. Others who have different opinions state them, often, repeatedly, loudly and range from plain disappointment (normal) to outraged quitting obscenity. Puzzled as to why anyone would go thru so much time and effort, again repeatedly, to bash a simple video game, but have decided that it is simply some form of human nature.

 

Just as 'NEWS' organizations give priority to horrifying and 'bad' news, so do review organizations do the same. What works for the reputable news works for the new guys on the block as well. I decided to post instead of playing right now cause I have to go walk the dogs first. Then I will resume my game being a very lucky retired person who can play as much as I like.

 

And I like playing SWTOR. I have 3 characters, Jedi Knight, Smuggler and a new Trooper. Have some Empire characters I am looking forward to playing. I know the bug fixes and updates are coming, not really worried. So once again, well done Bioware and I am enjoying the game.

The reason I bash the game is because I spent 120$ plus tax on the game and the game is bad.

When I buy bad part's off of Newegg.com I also review the product and leave my thoughts and opinions.

When I buy electronic's and I like the product I leave a good review on Newegg and also my thoughts.

 

Simply put as a customer who bought two copies of the game (one of which was due to bad customer service forcing me to purchase a second copy if I wanted to play after Dec 20th) like myself has as much right to inform other consumers that this is a bad product.

I'm sure new mmo player's might like SWeator but anyone who's really played mmo's to any high level will be dissapointed. The game's ability lag alone in pvp was enought o get me to quit. (playing League of Legends last night on a champ that has a .75sec ability to dodge any skill shot........lol SWTOR can't even get abilities to fire off in 1 second much less dodge a enemies skill.)

 

If people choose to listen or not to reviews from gamer's then that is their choice.

So you spent $120 dollars on the game before making sure it was your kind of game?[EDIT: Actually, I read your post history - you were seriously questioning the game before it was even released... Why did you buy it???]  You said it yourself: "If people choose to listen or not to reviews from gamer's then that is their choice."  - and you chose to spend $120 dollars without listening to what people were saying.  The issues SWTOR has are exactly the same as when it was in beta.  I have no compassion for people who spent a fortune for the product that was delivered in the exact state that beta testers said it was in.  

If you bought a bad part from Newegg.com, you'd review it and return it and you'd move on.  Normal people don't have time or desire to create and comment on hundereds of threads on the downfall of computers because of a bad video card by xyz corporation.  Most normal folks would just buy a different one.

Imagine I bought a hamburger that tasted bad from McDonalds.  I'd just go to Burger King next time.  Problem solved.  I certainly wouldn't feel the need to go on a personal anti-McDonalds campaign considering there are lots of folks that like McDonalds and that's thier choice.  I just choose not to go there. (probably a bad analogy since I don't eat fast food LOL)

Well i had a guild playing that I was in Rift with so I wanted to play with friends. Is that so weird? 

 

And yes I was skeptical of the game prior to release and yes I fell for the new mmo smell for a couple weeks because like I said I had friends who i enjoy playing with.

If the game was good then these threads wouldnt even exist. So who is right? How come I haven't seen such hate for a mmo on release in a long time? Because the game was good? hhmmmm?

In fact no other mmo I can think of was launched with such a back lash after the first 2 week's was over. The reason being is guy's like me who play alot of games started seeing the major flaws in the game's systems.

The game's actual system's are poorly designed.

  freakky

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2/05/12 12:02:51 PM#69
Originally posted by snapfusion
Originally posted by freakky

OP you don't even say what you like about the game. I don't understand Open post to Bioware on a site they wont read? I'm playing it and enjoy the story telling mostly and few skills and graphics. Zoning system is great also. I feel raiding is lacking. Only 2 raid zones but they got different  settings like hard and nightmare. Hard and nightmare have same loot. Also can do 8 or 16man raid both the same loot and content. 

 

I'm honestly over the the story telling part of the game. Once you take that away there isn't much to the game. Hard mode instance for lvl 50 get boring after you done them all. Kaon patch they been working on for year before release and haven't let it all out yet. If it took them that long to make that how long will it take them for newer content?

I'm not trying hate on anyone enjoying the game. Enjoy it and have fun. That is great. I just feel I will get bored with it soon and I'm sure I'm not alone on that. I still have bit of hope it will get better but also little unsure about that.

So because he didtn provide you a laundry list of why he does like it he therefore must not really like it?  I dont understand what your trying to imply.  The subject of the post was not WHY I LIKE SWTOR its a sampling of his thougths on a number of areas in the game and of peoples behavior.  Though its great you found some way to discredit his opinion.

I didn't say he didn't like it. How you come to that I am clueless about. Whats the point of op post?  If you are going say you like something you might as well say why.  To me it seems pointless to address a company on another site and say I like the game you made. You talk about trying to discredit someone opinion then go do it yourself? You sir make me laugh.

  Warjin

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2/05/12 2:15:11 PM#70

Most people are Idiots plain and simple, the internet habors "mostly" cowards & losers in real life, being a prick to others online helps them feel better about themselves, speading unhappiness to others helps them shead away unhappiness from themselves, it's sick I know but what can we do about it?

To tell you the truth one should not let it bother them if anything I started to really feel bad for those types of people, they are lacking in real life and it reflects online through there hate topics & posts, all we can do as good people is to not feed into that negativaity and be the best we can be to ourself and others like minded and pitty thoses with the dark cloud of negativity over there heads.

  sanosukex

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Posts: 1857

2/05/12 2:17:42 PM#71
Originally posted by Warjin

Most people are Idiots plain and simple, the internet habors "mostly" cowards & losers in real life, being a prick to others online helps them feel better about themselves, speading unhappiness to others helps them shead away unhappiness from themselves, it's sick I know but what can we do about it?

To tell you the truth one should not let it bother them if anything I started to really feel bad for those types of people, they are lacking in real life and it reflects online through there hate topics & posts, all we can do as good people is to not feed into that negativaity and be the best we can be to ourself and others like minded and pitty thoses with the dark cloud of negativity over there heads.

OR some of us actually like a good debate.. I for one was on the debate team in high school.. sue me

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html

  Wickedjelly

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2/05/12 2:21:37 PM#72
Originally posted by Warjin

Most people are Idiots plain and simple, the internet habors "mostly" cowards & losers in real life, being a prick to others online helps them feel better about themselves, speading unhappiness to others helps them shead away unhappiness from themselves, it's sick I know but what can we do about it?

To tell you the truth one should not let it bother them if anything I started to really feel bad for those types of people, they are lacking in real life and it reflects online through there hate topics & posts, all we can do as good people is to not feed into that negativaity and be the best we can be to ourself and others like minded and pitty thoses with the dark cloud of negativity over there heads.

Uh yeah, no offense but I wouldn't exactly say your post exudes any warm and fuzzies.

Not feelin' any Bob Rossified vibes after reading a post that starts out saying most people are idiots,. Not to mention the rest of it...

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Warjin

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2/05/12 2:36:55 PM#73
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Warjin

Most people are Idiots plain and simple, the internet habors "mostly" cowards & losers in real life, being a prick to others online helps them feel better about themselves, speading unhappiness to others helps them shead away unhappiness from themselves, it's sick I know but what can we do about it?

To tell you the truth one should not let it bother them if anything I started to really feel bad for those types of people, they are lacking in real life and it reflects online through there hate topics & posts, all we can do as good people is to not feed into that negativaity and be the best we can be to ourself and others like minded and pitty thoses with the dark cloud of negativity over there heads.

Uh yeah, no offense but I wouldn't exactly say your post exudes any warm and fuzzies.

Not feelin' any Bob Rossified vibes after reading a post that starts out saying most people are idiots,. Not to mention the rest of it...

"Most" is the key word here,not all, and i'm not saying you or anyone in particular, there are some good people with good empowering topics and posts and some with strong debates and I respect that, but posting for the sake of speading hateful opinions does no one anygood, those types of people are lacking to feel the need to do such a thing, I know everyone gets pissie every now and then but there are those that are consistent in this behavior and this to me shows that something isn't right with them on a real life personal level.

We are all better then this as humans and must not let ourselves fall victim to this type of emotion

  sanosukex

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2/05/12 2:40:08 PM#74
Originally posted by Warjin
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Warjin

Most people are Idiots plain and simple, the internet habors "mostly" cowards & losers in real life, being a prick to others online helps them feel better about themselves, speading unhappiness to others helps them shead away unhappiness from themselves, it's sick I know but what can we do about it?

To tell you the truth one should not let it bother them if anything I started to really feel bad for those types of people, they are lacking in real life and it reflects online through there hate topics & posts, all we can do as good people is to not feed into that negativaity and be the best we can be to ourself and others like minded and pitty thoses with the dark cloud of negativity over there heads.

Uh yeah, no offense but I wouldn't exactly say your post exudes any warm and fuzzies.

Not feelin' any Bob Rossified vibes after reading a post that starts out saying most people are idiots,. Not to mention the rest of it...

"Most" is the key word here,not all, and i'm not saying you or anyone in particular, there are some good people with good empowering topics and posts and some with strong debates and I respect that, but posting for the sake of speading hateful opinions does no one anygood, those types of people are lacking to feel the need to do such a thing, I know everyone gets pissie every now and then but there are those that are consistent in this behavior and this to me shows that something isn't right with them on a real life personal level.

We are all better then this as humans and must not let ourselves fall victim to this type of emotions

not to get far off topic but when in history have humans not been slaves to our emotions.. Unfortunatley no one I know in my life is a true "Jedi" no matter what they say :P

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html

  ktanner3

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2/05/12 2:40:09 PM#75
Originally posted by sanosukex
 

let me give you an example of why i feel somewhat cheated by this game. Some things about me

1. I love MMO's of all kinds especially themeparks

2. I love love love Star Wars and have since I was a little boy

3. I love biowares games such as KOTOR, Mass Effect, Dragon age

 

now how in the hell could this game be such a dissapointment to me if it was so great. I should be a #1 fan praising this game and all it stands for seeing what I like above. This game is the single most dissapointing game I have ever been looking forward to in my long gaming history and to me that says a lot.. but whatever if people think this game is the greatest thing ever then more power to them.

I love Star Wars too, but that doesn't mean I'm going to like every game that comes out with the Star Wars label on it. I never liked SWG, even though some here think it was the greatest thing ever. I thought it was the most boring filled piece of crap ever. I've never been more dissapointed with a game.But when I stopped playing, I stopped playing. I didn't go on the SWG boards on a daily basis telling everyone what a bad game it was and how there is something wrong with people that like it.Others on the other hand seemed to spend their whole time in game and on the official forums trashing it. In fact, I didn't even know that game HAD fans until I came to this site. Obviously it had fans, but I would have never known that if I went by the official boards and globe chat.My attitude with a bad game is that I say my piece and move on. After all it's just a game.

And really, if you feel this miserable over one star wars game then don't bother with any others because Star Wars games tend to be crappy.

 

Currently Playing: Star Wars The Old Republic

  sanosukex

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Posts: 1857

2/05/12 2:45:44 PM#76
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by sanosukex
 

let me give you an example of why i feel somewhat cheated by this game. Some things about me

1. I love MMO's of all kinds especially themeparks

2. I love love love Star Wars and have since I was a little boy

3. I love biowares games such as KOTOR, Mass Effect, Dragon age

 

now how in the hell could this game be such a dissapointment to me if it was so great. I should be a #1 fan praising this game and all it stands for seeing what I like above. This game is the single most dissapointing game I have ever been looking forward to in my long gaming history and to me that says a lot.. but whatever if people think this game is the greatest thing ever then more power to them.

I love Star Wars too, but that doesn't mean I'm going to like every game that comes out with the Star Wars label on it. I never liked SWG, even though some here think it was the greatest thing ever. I thought it was the most boring filled piece of crap ever. I've never been more dissapointed with a game.But when I stopped playing, I stopped playing. I didn't go on the SWG boards on a daily basis telling everyone what a bad game it was and how there is something wrong with people that like it.Others on the other hand seemed to spend their whole time in game and on the official forums trashing it. In fact, I didn't even know that game HAD fans until I came to this site. Obviously it had fans, but I would have never known that if I went by the official boards and globe chat.My attitude with a bad game is that I say my piece and move on. After all it's just a game.

And really, if you feel this miserable over one star wars game then don't bother with any others because Star Wars games tend to be crappy.

 

difference is I HAVE liked every star wars game I have played that I can remember.. even back to the old snes ones. I even like force unleashed 2 which many people hated. Also you are putting a straight label on me saying I sit here and bash the game left and write which I don't I give my opinion which just happens to be negative its still just an opinion. I don't start threads to start fights. I'm just debating my stance on the game you don't have to understand why but that's how it is.. I also like to debate on topics I have long history's with( like MMOs) so there's another reason I'm here.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html

  Warjin

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Joined: 10/25/09
Posts: 1207

2/05/12 2:45:59 PM#77
Originally posted by sanosukex
Originally posted by Warjin
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Warjin

Most people are Idiots plain and simple, the internet habors "mostly" cowards & losers in real life, being a prick to others online helps them feel better about themselves, speading unhappiness to others helps them shead away unhappiness from themselves, it's sick I know but what can we do about it?

To tell you the truth one should not let it bother them if anything I started to really feel bad for those types of people, they are lacking in real life and it reflects online through there hate topics & posts, all we can do as good people is to not feed into that negativaity and be the best we can be to ourself and others like minded and pitty thoses with the dark cloud of negativity over there heads.

Uh yeah, no offense but I wouldn't exactly say your post exudes any warm and fuzzies.

Not feelin' any Bob Rossified vibes after reading a post that starts out saying most people are idiots,. Not to mention the rest of it...

"Most" is the key word here,not all, and i'm not saying you or anyone in particular, there are some good people with good empowering topics and posts and some with strong debates and I respect that, but posting for the sake of speading hateful opinions does no one anygood, those types of people are lacking to feel the need to do such a thing, I know everyone gets pissie every now and then but there are those that are consistent in this behavior and this to me shows that something isn't right with them on a real life personal level.

We are all better then this as humans and must not let ourselves fall victim to this type of emotions

not to get far off topic but when in history have humans not been slaves to our emotions.. Unfortunatley no one I know in my life is a true "Jedi" no matter what they say :P

I am a slave to my emotions but but I try to break free from the negative ones that do nothing but make me even more out of control, I think if we all learned to manage our negative emotions we will all be in a better place.

Lol true we are not Jedi but the concept behind the Jedi & Vulan philosophy holds some truth if you really think about it, but thats another topic that I would love to debate with people.

  tyrannis

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Posts: 218

2/05/12 2:49:40 PM#78
Originally posted by garry

Forums and posts - thousands of them so I thought I would toss my op in the mix.

 

Bioware - I am a 66 year old retired game designer (PnP). I looked forward to the new SWTOR, played a couple Betas, bought the DDE and am now playing. I want to congratulate you on a job well done. Are there some problems and bugs? Sure - just like EVERY OTHER MMO EVER LAUNCHED! I still like and have fun because the positive aspects of the game outweigh the negatives - by far - for me. Others who have different opinions state them, often, repeatedly, loudly and range from plain disappointment (normal) to outraged quitting obscenity. Puzzled as to why anyone would go thru so much time and effort, again repeatedly, to bash a simple video game, but have decided that it is simply some form of human nature.

 

Just as 'NEWS' organizations give priority to horrifying and 'bad' news, so do review organizations do the same. What works for the reputable news works for the new guys on the block as well. I decided to post instead of playing right now cause I have to go walk the dogs first. Then I will resume my game being a very lucky retired person who can play as much as I like.

 

And I like playing SWTOR. I have 3 characters, Jedi Knight, Smuggler and a new Trooper. Have some Empire characters I am looking forward to playing. I know the bug fixes and updates are coming, not really worried. So once again, well done Bioware and I am enjoying the game.

 

 

You seem to lack some very basic understanding of human nature. This knowledge would tell you exactly why people behave in the maner you speak. At your age I would think this knowledge would be almost a given.
 
Therefore, it may be I who lack's some basic understanding of human nature. 

##Best SWTOR of 2011
Posted by I_Return - SWTOR - "Forget the UI the characters and all ofhe nitpicking bullshit" "Greatest MMO Ever Created"

##Fail Thread Title of 2011
Originally posted by daveospice
"this game looks like crap?"

  ktanner3

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2/05/12 2:52:10 PM#79
Originally posted by sanosukex
Originally posted by ktanner3

 

I love Star Wars too, but that doesn't mean I'm going to like every game that comes out with the Star Wars label on it. I never liked SWG, even though some here think it was the greatest thing ever. I thought it was the most boring filled piece of crap ever. I've never been more dissapointed with a game.But when I stopped playing, I stopped playing. I didn't go on the SWG boards on a daily basis telling everyone what a bad game it was and how there is something wrong with people that like it.Others on the other hand seemed to spend their whole time in game and on the official forums trashing it. In fact, I didn't even know that game HAD fans until I came to this site. Obviously it had fans, but I would have never known that if I went by the official boards and globe chat.My attitude with a bad game is that I say my piece and move on. After all it's just a game.

And really, if you feel this miserable over one star wars game then don't bother with any others because Star Wars games tend to be crappy.

 

difference is I HAVE liked every star wars game I have played that I can remember.. even back to the old snes ones. I even like force unleashed 2 which many people hated. Also you are putting a straight label on me saying I sit here and bash the game left and write which I don't I give my opinion which just happens to be negative its still just an opinion. I don't start threads to start fights. I'm just debating my stance on the game you don't have to understand why but that's how it is.. I also like to debate on topics I have long history's with( like MMOs) so there's another reason I'm here.

For me there's nothing to debate. This isn't some ideological real world argument like in politics where you can debate the finer points of abortion. You either like the game or you don't. There might be reasons why you do or don't, but they really aren't worthy of anything much beyond that because in the end, we're just talking about a game here. Not cures for cancer.

Currently Playing: Star Wars The Old Republic

  sanosukex

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Posts: 1857

2/05/12 2:56:52 PM#80
Originally posted by ktanner3
 

For me there's nothing to debate. This isn't some ideological real world argument like in politics where you can debate the finer points of abortion. You either like the game or you don't. There might be reasons why you do or don't, but they really aren't worthy of anything much beyond that because in the end, we're just talking about a game here. Not cures for cancer.

true it is just a game.. but MMOs can take up a significant portion of peoples lives..anything that takes up that much time in my life to me warrants some sort of emotional response and to many its more or less an addiction so as an addiction its worth debating wether you agree with that or not but there are even MMO addiction support groups out there.. 

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html

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