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  Vhaln

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Joined: 7/07/05
Posts: 3167

2/02/12 10:55:11 AM#41
Originally posted by Sandor_Phrog

Originally posted by StSynner


I was thinking the same thing. I mean he basically said that everyone he worked with was giving biased reviews:


"The reviews I've seen always seem prefabricated, or biased in the fact that they unfairly lean towards one side or the other in attempt to gain readership or appease sponsors. Me? I simply don't care enough to lie. Besides, if I poke the bear a little too much and the people who pay me get mad, I can always claim that it was all just a joke."


Leads me to believe that he knows his co-workers are writing prefabricated, biased reviews.


I thought "Oh... this might be good..."


BAM!!!! Same shit as EVERY. OTHER. REVIEW. ...these kids are either playing a different game then we are... or have no idea what they're talking about...



A friend of mine's father used to say "If you're talking to a group of people and it seems like most them are being assholes, maybe it's you."


Did it ever occur to you that if all the reviews are saying the same thing, and you disagree with it, that maybe they're right and you're wrong?  Holding a minority opinion does not automatically make you a virtuous underdog.  Sometimes you're just being a jackass and can't (or won't) see it.

 

Minority opinion?  Really?  Even the official forums are full of negativity, and you need to have a sub to post there.  Imagine how all the gamers who aren't subbed must feel about it.

 

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  Robsolf

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Posts: 4027

Let go of my ears, I know what I'm doing!

2/02/12 10:55:30 AM#42
Originally posted by Sandor_Phrog



A friend of mine's father used to say "If you're talking to a group of people and it seems like most them are being assholes, maybe it's you."


Did it ever occur to you that if all the reviews are saying the same thing, and you disagree with it, that maybe they're right and you're wrong?  Holding a minority opinion does not automatically make you a virtuous underdog.  Sometimes you're just being a jackass and can't (or won't) see it.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-7-stupidest-things-that-make-people-proud/

  Wicoa

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Posts: 1614

2/02/12 11:00:54 AM#43

Erm, why is it wrong to expect capped level content heck Id be happier if the crafting was more meaningful than sending virtual slaves to do what should be my work for me...




Its not like its hard to achieve 50 most people I know with a job a girlfriend a second girlfriend and a family + pets have gotten there.  What they havent been able to do is roll and have a second 50 which is what most people I know with 5 hours game time a day since launch have managed to do (ITS COLD OUTSIDE).




So bye bye TOR until you provide more meaningful stuff to do and better mmorpg systems did I mention the reality of an actual virtual world and not a co-op style zone in game.


TOODLES>


This guy has the review bang on http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/5323-Star-Wars-The-Old-Republic


Oh and one more thing weren't mythic devs supposed to be working on this as well? Where the hell is the proper RvR at least give me an ATAT to pvp with FGS!


  smh_alot

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Posts: 990

2/02/12 11:03:58 AM#44
Originally posted by Leethe

I am truely saddened by some of the replies here. I suppose this really does show that opinions are only respected by those who agree with it. Not trying to troll but it is very amusing to watch the Coyote catch agro because he won't drink the kool-aid.

The game has flaws but it's mostly fun. Is that so hard to deal with?

Yeah, true. Well. at least they're honest about it in a 'I only praise and accept reviews that reflect my opinion else they're utter fail' kinda way :-D


Originally posted by Littlebomb


All servers are 4 to 1 in Empire's favor.


 

Definitely, DEFINITELY untrue. Why do some people always have to resort to this kinda hyperboles and extreme exaggerations? O_o

Seriously.


PvE and RP servers are for the most part fairly equal in faction size, sometimes Republic is a bit larger, sometimes Empire. PvP servers have mostly Empire as larger faction, but as good as all the times in a 1 to 1.3-2.5 ratio at max. That's facts and reality for ye.


Funny comic relief review, could've been sharper and wittier, could've been lamer. Was ok.
  Candomble

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Joined: 7/15/11
Posts: 167

2/02/12 11:09:15 AM#45
Originally posted by ropenice

Originally posted by precious328

I can think of about 50 more weaknesses.




This read is very biased.





 

Can you skip at least one TOR thread? Never seen such dedication.

And he achieves 1st reply many times. This is love for sure.

  Teilo

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Joined: 8/17/07
Posts: 290

2/02/12 11:14:26 AM#46
Originally posted by precious328

I can think of about 50 more weaknesses.

List them.

  Ecoces

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/25/11
Posts: 811

2/02/12 11:22:40 AM#47
Originally posted by Vhaln
Originally posted by Sandor_Phrog

Originally posted by StSynner


I was thinking the same thing. I mean he basically said that everyone he worked with was giving biased reviews:


"The reviews I've seen always seem prefabricated, or biased in the fact that they unfairly lean towards one side or the other in attempt to gain readership or appease sponsors. Me? I simply don't care enough to lie. Besides, if I poke the bear a little too much and the people who pay me get mad, I can always claim that it was all just a joke."


Leads me to believe that he knows his co-workers are writing prefabricated, biased reviews.


I thought "Oh... this might be good..."


BAM!!!! Same shit as EVERY. OTHER. REVIEW. ...these kids are either playing a different game then we are... or have no idea what they're talking about...



A friend of mine's father used to say "If you're talking to a group of people and it seems like most them are being assholes, maybe it's you."


Did it ever occur to you that if all the reviews are saying the same thing, and you disagree with it, that maybe they're right and you're wrong?  Holding a minority opinion does not automatically make you a virtuous underdog.  Sometimes you're just being a jackass and can't (or won't) see it.

 

Minority opinion?  Really?  Even the official forums are full of negativity, and you need to have a sub to post there.  Imagine how all the gamers who aren't subbed must feel about it.

 

and heres the thing you may not know, those that frequent the forum are in the minority. most players are too busy playing the game to bother with b****ing on the forum.

  Purutzil

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Joined: 10/02/11
Posts: 2886

The Critical Hit Pretzel!

2/02/12 11:36:25 AM#48

"Pro: Good gameplay"  Love how its a pro and yet there is nothing really given stating this and it feels so tiny and half assed of a section. It seems as if it belongs in a 'meh' section rather then a pro section. Way to forced it looks like to me.


  Vhaln

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Joined: 7/07/05
Posts: 3167

2/02/12 11:48:42 AM#49
Originally posted by Ecoces

and heres the thing you may not know, those that frequent the forum are in the minority. most players are too busy playing the game to bother with b****ing on the forum.

 

People always say that, but it doesn't even make any sense.  It's true that most people don't do forums, but that goes just as much for people who hate the game and quit, as it does for people happily playing, and people everywhere in between.  It's really neither here nor there.

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  logan400k

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Joined: 1/05/09
Posts: 68

2/02/12 11:49:02 AM#50

Two thumbs up on the review. Nough said


Just My 2 Lunars

  Candomble

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Joined: 7/15/11
Posts: 167

2/02/12 11:53:05 AM#51

Originally posted by Vhaln


Originally posted by Sandor_Phrog





Originally posted by StSynner






I was thinking the same thing. I mean he basically said that everyone he worked with was giving biased reviews:




"The reviews I've seen always seem prefabricated, or biased in the fact that they unfairly lean towards one side or the other in attempt to gain readership or appease sponsors. Me? I simply don't care enough to lie. Besides, if I poke the bear a little too much and the people who pay me get mad, I can always claim that it was all just a joke."




Leads me to believe that he knows his co-workers are writing prefabricated, biased reviews.




I thought "Oh... this might be good..."




BAM!!!! Same shit as EVERY. OTHER. REVIEW. ...these kids are either playing a different game then we are... or have no idea what they're talking about...







A friend of mine's father used to say "If you're talking to a group of people and it seems like most them are being assholes, maybe it's you."




Did it ever occur to you that if all the reviews are saying the same thing, and you disagree with it, that maybe they're right and you're wrong?  Holding a minority opinion does not automatically make you a virtuous underdog.  Sometimes you're just being a jackass and can't (or won't) see it.



 


Minority opinion?  Really?  Even the official forums are full of negativity, and you need to have a sub to post there.  Imagine how all the gamers who aren't subbed must feel about it.


 



 


LOL!


WoW forums were always full with QQers and guess what, they still have millions of subscribers. People even posted there anouncing their departure from the game (as if someone would really care).


The more subscribers, the more complainers.


  Anubisan

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Joined: 1/09/05
Posts: 1834

2/02/12 12:28:24 PM#52
Originally posted by Vhaln
Originally posted by Sandor_Phrog

Originally posted by StSynner


I was thinking the same thing. I mean he basically said that everyone he worked with was giving biased reviews:


"The reviews I've seen always seem prefabricated, or biased in the fact that they unfairly lean towards one side or the other in attempt to gain readership or appease sponsors. Me? I simply don't care enough to lie. Besides, if I poke the bear a little too much and the people who pay me get mad, I can always claim that it was all just a joke."


Leads me to believe that he knows his co-workers are writing prefabricated, biased reviews.


I thought "Oh... this might be good..."


BAM!!!! Same shit as EVERY. OTHER. REVIEW. ...these kids are either playing a different game then we are... or have no idea what they're talking about...
A friend of mine's father used to say "If you're talking to a group of people and it seems like most them are being assholes, maybe it's you."


Did it ever occur to you that if all the reviews are saying the same thing, and you disagree with it, that maybe they're right and you're wrong?  Holding a minority opinion does not automatically make you a virtuous underdog.  Sometimes you're just being a jackass and can't (or won't) see it.

Minority opinion?  Really?  Even the official forums are full of negativity, and you need to have a sub to post there.  Imagine how all the gamers who aren't subbed must feel about it.

That's because people who frequent the forums are the most vocal element and rarely represent the majority opinion. Those who are actually enjoying the game are playing it rather than bothering to post about it all day (except those of us who are stuck at work).

The fact that pretty much every reviewer has given SWTOR good marks indicates that Bioware did do something right with this game. Most people have received it quite well despite what you see here or on other cranky elitist gaming forums.

  MacroHard

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Joined: 1/10/12
Posts: 105

2/02/12 12:44:12 PM#53

"Yes, the endgame is admittedly lacking, but that’s based mostly on the fact that the majority of players haven’t had the time to reach it yet."


-Coyote


Coyote, I am truly taken aback when you say the reason the endgame sucks is due to this and not due to the lack of... content.  Yikes.


  brett7018

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Joined: 11/20/03
Posts: 183

2/02/12 12:45:38 PM#54
Originally posted by Ecoces
Originally posted by Vhaln
Originally posted by Sandor_Phrog

Originally posted by StSynner


I was thinking the same thing. I mean he basically said that everyone he worked with was giving biased reviews:


"The reviews I've seen always seem prefabricated, or biased in the fact that they unfairly lean towards one side or the other in attempt to gain readership or appease sponsors. Me? I simply don't care enough to lie. Besides, if I poke the bear a little too much and the people who pay me get mad, I can always claim that it was all just a joke."


Leads me to believe that he knows his co-workers are writing prefabricated, biased reviews.


I thought "Oh... this might be good..."


BAM!!!! Same shit as EVERY. OTHER. REVIEW. ...these kids are either playing a different game then we are... or have no idea what they're talking about...



A friend of mine's father used to say "If you're talking to a group of people and it seems like most them are being assholes, maybe it's you."


Did it ever occur to you that if all the reviews are saying the same thing, and you disagree with it, that maybe they're right and you're wrong?  Holding a minority opinion does not automatically make you a virtuous underdog.  Sometimes you're just being a jackass and can't (or won't) see it.

 

Minority opinion?  Really?  Even the official forums are full of negativity, and you need to have a sub to post there.  Imagine how all the gamers who aren't subbed must feel about it.

 

and heres the thing you may not know, those that frequent the forum are in the minority. most players are too busy playing the game to bother with b****ing on the forum.

Exactly, only time I ever bother to come here is when I have a free moment at work...most of these responses come from the same whiney bunch of people who race through a game to get to the end a few weeks after release and wonder why they are burned out. 

Maybe one day they will move out, start a RL and figure out that games are the ENJOYMENT, not the work...

  Scalebane

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Posts: 2240

2/02/12 12:52:36 PM#55

Everyone has a price

"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas

  DJJazzy

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Posts: 2074

2/02/12 12:56:15 PM#56

So many whiners here. So he is not allowed to like the game? Or is it that his opinion doesn't match your opinion? Is that why some of you cry so much?

Anyway, as for the article. Glad you are enjoying the game although I have to admit this isn't one of your funnier articles.

  dirtypool

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Posts: 13

2/02/12 1:04:05 PM#57

I think my biggest problem with the review is that the reviewer calls himself a humorist.

But maybe if you think SWTOR is a challenge, then I guess it's likely you think this review is funny, too. We're living in the age of  Idiocracy, right?

 

  Earend

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Joined: 7/07/11
Posts: 6

2/02/12 1:35:00 PM#58

Originally posted by Sandor_Phrog



Did it ever occur to you that if all the reviews are saying the same thing, and you disagree with it, that maybe they're right and you're wrong?  Holding a minority opinion does not automatically make you a virtuous underdog.  Sometimes you're just being a jackass and can't (or won't) see it.



 


WHAT EVER PHROG MAN MAYBE YOU'RE JUST BEING A BIASED SHEEP AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT.  ANYONE WHO EVER SAYS THEY'RE FINE WITH SOMETHING GOT IT FOR FREE OR HAS BRAIN SARS.  WHY WOULD PEOPLE GO TO THE FORUMS JUST TO COMPLAIN ABOUT STAR WARS THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE SOMETHING THE INTERNET WOULD DO?


 


ALSO i have a prob with my game i picked jedi but they said romances are bad and i have a green lightsaber so i can't any dark points but i don't know how do i form jedi babby plz halp?  wtf bioware?


  ropenice

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2/02/12 2:20:52 PM#59

Originally posted by Spalliero

Coyote, this doesn't feel honest, there see that? That's honesty! I can honestly say it wasn't funny either. Your right the ui, space combat suck, so does do many other revolutionarily redone facets of the game. I can honestly point out the character creation, graphics, repetitive gameplay, poor class design, blatant poorly copied game mechanics, the fact that I can be light side good bad guy (oxymoron) with dark influences (completely at odds with ip). That's a few, honestly best part of the game is the ip (star wars, cause without that in the title or class names I couldn't tell) and server quality. Other than that's this game is bargain bin quality. HONESTLY!



 


Only your opinion counts? I didn't think it was a very funny article (most of his are though), but how do you know what he honestly feels about the game. There are over a million and a half people (not me) that honestly like the game. It is possible for people to like something you don't.


  Tyroki

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Joined: 11/23/05
Posts: 176

2/02/12 2:54:13 PM#60

Coyote, I'm disappointed. Regardless of whether you like the game or not, you should be making fun of everything. This felt... fake. Biased even.


Where is the Coyote that mocks the living crap out of everything and everyone?


Where is the Coyote whose articles we all enjoy reading (as they are USUALLY funny as heck!)


This... this...


 


 


Sigh =(


MMO's played: Ragnarok Online (For years), WoW (for a few weeks only), Guild Wars, Lineage 2, Eve, Allods, Shattered Galaxy, 9 Dragons, City of Heroes, City of Villains, Star Trek Online (Got someone ELSE to pay for it), Champions Online (Someone else paid), Dofus, Dragonica, LOTRO, DDO and more... A LOT more. I've played good AND bad. The bad didn't last long. :P

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