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Zlayer77
Apprentice Member
Joined: 5/19/09
Start worrying about other players in a game and dont just play |
Some dude raging ont the offical SWTOR forums made this and I kinda LOLed hahah... |
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1/20/12 1:53:40 AM#2
old news....meh
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1/20/12 1:56:23 AM#3
Lol....WoW just WoW |
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1/20/12 2:58:36 AM#4
I still can't believe this image. A honest review of SW:TOR 6/10 (Danny Wojcicki) <--- link fixed |
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1/20/12 3:05:02 AM#5
the most "wow" part of it all, imo, is the designer's quote - which I agree with - given the final execution of the game. The skill list is funny/sad, but playing any class in SWTOR for a few levels gives you that deja vu feeling of "funny, could have sworn I played this character before with these exact same skills" |
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1/20/12 3:10:55 AM#6
Yeah I kept noticing the same thing when I played a warrior in rift, kept calling abilities by their wow names because it was the same.
On the other side of the coin, however, that is only 14 abilities. The person who made this image decided to be selective and only show ones that were the same as wow, while leaving out the different ones. Its been a while since I've played wow, but look at the taunt for example, it has a PvP effect. I don't think wow has that. There are lots of other differences in how the classes play. Does wow have a stealth healer that can use cover and melée dps? Nope. It's easy to look at the similarities and ignore the differences that don't fit your viewpoint, but there many differences. Now before you start calling me names and raging out, I'm not trying to say that this game is ultra revolutionary or breaks the mold completely or anything like that, but several advanced classes play quite differently than wow characters. Even the ones that are very similar, sorc for example is very much like a healing priest in corruption and shadow priest in madness, but is more like a Mage when specced lightning. The picture is all in fun, I get that, but it doesn't give you a good representation of all the class abilities ( maybe half of them). But yeah, har har it's like wow. I wonder how many of those abilities wow copied from other games? My live Stream:www.twitch.tv/dubyahite
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1/20/12 3:17:18 AM#7
Originally posted by Zlayer77 Welcome to 2009. "The keys are in your hands. Realize you are sole creator... of your own madter plan" - Dimmu Borgir, Gateways |
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1/20/12 3:22:11 AM#8
The chorus of this song just popped into my head because of this thread. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-_G37EK1VU Honey....what do you do for money? |
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1/20/12 3:27:27 AM#9
Yep, like wow was groundbreaking with abilities and names! |
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1/20/12 3:27:29 AM#10
.....or to bring some reality into the discussion: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/115365-EA-Share-Price-Slides-Over-Old-Republic-Concerns
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sgel
Apprentice Member
Joined: 7/11/08
I've got this creature on my back.. it just wont let go. |
1/20/12 3:28:40 AM#11
Originally posted by TROLL_HARD \m/ /o\ \m/ "This creature softened my heart of stone. She died and with her died my last warm feelings for humanity." - Joseph Stalin |
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1/20/12 3:31:11 AM#12
Originally posted by Spiritraiser yep there you go.. anyone else want to prove the point? |
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1/20/12 3:32:47 AM#13
He could have more or less patched in the same skills from Everquest as well. Let's face it, MMO devs like to copy and paste stuff others have already made and then pretend that they don't. I wish some ARMA members made a MMO, combat mechanics made by someone who actually know a thing or 2 about combat. |
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1/20/12 3:52:26 AM#14
Originally posted by Loke666 Yep! Like a staffmember from Rift said "Why repair something that isn´t broken?". If you are developing a mainstream mmo its only naturall to copy things you like from existing popular mainstream mmo:s. Makes it easier for the audience of this kinda games to get into them. Mainstream audience like it easy or else their heads gonna explode :P. Just kidding, like a lot of those games myself even though I get bored of them sometimes. |
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1/20/12 4:35:46 AM#15
A mainstream MMO having mainstream MMO skills and mechanics shouldn't be a surprise. There are loads of non-mainstream MMOs out there and some of them are great, but they tend to get slated and laughed at because their populations aren't so strong and their productions values aren't up to AAA standards - which is why mainstream games have become so formulaic.
If you want something different try something different. You'll have to put up with dodgy graphics and animations, some of the design choices might be a touch flakey and you won't find a lot of polish to show off your gaming rig, but you'll find some real gems out there in that rough. Support those and you never know, some of their innovations might find their way into mainstream games.
AAA MMOs, with their AAA costs and AAA captive audience, will always play it safe. They'll only incorporate tried and tested features, so if you want to see innovative features in AAA MMOs try and test them outside of the mainstream. |
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1/20/12 4:39:07 AM#16
This goes beyond having general similar abilities, which could be understandable, it's a carbon copy. A honest review of SW:TOR 6/10 (Danny Wojcicki) <--- link fixed |
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1/20/12 4:47:28 AM#17
Can you think of a successful AAA MMO that doesn't have those skills? Hell, I've seen them in plenty of non-AAA games, some that even pre-date WoW.
Reactives, PBAOEs, taunts, guards, charges, in-combat buffs - these have been MMO standards since forever. |
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1/20/12 4:56:14 AM#18
Originally posted by Metentso How can you call it a carbon copy? They are similar yes but not exactly like each other. Hey GW2 theives get shadowstep and steal, they must be copying wow to. |
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Yamota
Elite Member
Joined: 10/05/03
Money in politics is the root of all political evil. It is corruption at it's worst. |
1/20/12 4:58:02 AM#19
Originally posted by Loke666 Really? Name me the class and skills which are this close match in any other game? I mean sure there will always be some overlap with other games but this is close to 100% overlap which means it was a shameless copy/paste. And people say this game is not a WoW clone... gees. |
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Yamota
Elite Member
Joined: 10/05/03
Money in politics is the root of all political evil. It is corruption at it's worst. |
1/20/12 4:59:19 AM#20
{mod edit} That's insane man. But then again, saying that a game is a WoW clone seems to be a bannable offense, even though it is true. |