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  DarLorkar

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1/30/12 2:29:35 AM#61
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by DarLorkar

Not really hate, just what is good for a business is not also always good for gamers.

They eat up alot of tanlented Dev companies that i think would of made better games in the end.

What is funny is that a purchase of a dev company has to be agreed by both parties.

I really don't get why only EA gets hate when without the dev company agreeing, the sale/purchase can not happen.

Say what you will but without EA's backing a lot of the games wouldn't have been even made.

Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect2 is a classic case where Bioware wouldn't have had the financial resources available to make them both, at least according to the financial statements from back then.

Never said otherwise:)

Throw enough cash their way and there really is no reason not to sell. Like i said it is business, but still is not good for gamers, to have fewer and fewer Dev's out there making their own games with their own ideas. EA Eats alot of good smaller companies, and turns them into cash cows, releasing alot of sequels, till they die a slow death.

Just think it was better to have a lot of small independent compaines out there fighting to make different and unique games rather than a few  huge companies that controls so much.

Just goes to show, that a lot of those small companies that say they are in it for the gamers, really are not:) Get offered enough by the big corp and they sell out real quick:)

And no it is not all EA's fault, no matter how much folks dislike them. they are in it to make the most cash they can, as a business as well.  Just hurts the gamers to have a few huge companies with the power to direct things as much as EA  and a few others do i think.  Not only making games but they have the cash to control things on the publishing end as well.

But we as gamers demand so much, both in content and graphics, we pretty much demand that a dev company has to have tons of cash to even try anymore. So it is is just a vicious circle in the end. They all need to go hat in hand to the money store to make what we will buy.

 

  IAmMMO

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1/30/12 2:39:18 AM#62
Originally posted by xDayx

Im a fairly experienced pc gamer but cant understand the hatred for EA. Other than nickel and diming Sims expansions(which I dont blame them for), why the hate for EA?

 

  If you're a Pc gamer, then you should know why there's a hate towards EA for many reasons. They've taken many good Pc gaming companies under their wing and killed what made their games loved by their fans.

 Go have a google on how many companies with land mark Pc game titles EA  has taken over and picked apart ,only for later titles released under the same name to be a shadow of  the games they were making before. People seemed to have forgotten about that for a time, Bioware is just one of their later companies they're now ruining the magic touch they had before.

  Wraithone

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If you can't kill it, don't make it mad.

1/30/12 7:28:23 AM#63
Originally posted by slickbizzle
Originally posted by spaceport
Seems like you should do a bit of research about EA.

 

Why would I do that? What will I find? That a major corporation that is in the business to make money is acting like a major corporation that is in the business to make money?   I hate to break it to you, but every major corporation has skeletons in their closet.

 "Not the one I support!"  

Yes. Even that one.

 

 

True as far as it goes. But some go so far off the other side of the continuum, that they richly deserve special notice. EA and SOE are among those. 

  Wraithone

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If you can't kill it, don't make it mad.

1/30/12 7:34:15 AM#64
Originally posted by reignjuste

The only thing i want is ea vanish from earth so we can start seeing quality games again.

Well... If the general gaming population wouldn't keep buying all of the low quality shovel ware that EA and other such churn out, they'd stop or go out of business.  Thats one of the problems with gaming having gone pretty much main stream. As it reflects more and more a real cross section of the general population, the quality and other such get left out in the race to the bottom, to pander to the lowest common denominator.  Which in the case of the general population is pretty damn low.

  Yamota

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1/30/12 7:41:50 AM#65
Originally posted by IAmMMO
Originally posted by xDayx

Im a fairly experienced pc gamer but cant understand the hatred for EA. Other than nickel and diming Sims expansions(which I dont blame them for), why the hate for EA?

 

  If you're a Pc gamer, then you should know why there's a hate towards EA for many reasons. They've taken many good Pc gaming companies under their wing and killed what made their games loved by their fans.

 Go have a google on how many companies with land mark Pc game titles EA  has taken over and picked apart ,only for later titles released under the same name to be a shadow of  the games they were making before. People seemed to have forgotten about that for a time, Bioware is just one of their later companies they're now ruining the magic touch they had before.

Yeah I agree regarding Bioware, they produced some great games but after EA took it over, everything they produced just feels lacklustre. DAO 2 was dissapointment and so is SW:TOR, we will see how Mass Effect 3 turns out.

  OberanMiM

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Joined: 1/19/12
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1/30/12 11:23:43 AM#66
Originally posted by youngkg

EA has been haunting for years...

 

Started with the NFL2k series on xbox....Best football game ever made,highest reviewed football ever made, They even marked it down to 20 bucks just to compete with madden....Well it didnt just compete with madden it outsold it by the time the series reached 2k6...So what did EA do?,Put a better effort into the madden series? Nope ...they bought exclusive rights to the NFL brand officially ending the nfl 2k series and forcing gamers that wanted to play football to buy madden every year just for an updated roster because thats all they have really updated in the last 10 years or so...

 

I'm sorry. No recent football game could even hope to compare to "Tecmo Super Bowl" for the NES. I seem to recall ESPN rated it one of the best sports games of all time (trying to find the link)

But I agree it is a shame that EA got that exclusivity contract with the NFL :(

  Classicstar

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2/05/12 7:02:39 AM#67

They have ruined alot franchises/games and game companys(bioware super casuals company now and only money counts now) and now with ORIGIN they even become worse.

No EA for me same go for Ubisoft and some others but for me there worse.

Steam is compare to all other DRM lesser evil one, i still dont like it but its at least usesable compare to others so far.

My first experience with Steam is skyrim and so far its ok all tho im not so fond of comercials try sell you games and how bethesda now becouse of steam have controll over what modders release, example that graphics mod that was release soon after launch and bethesda fast patch make it and made it useless, im no fan of that.

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  Warmaker

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2/05/12 11:57:54 AM#68

Ubisoft... that's funny, I haven't bought an Ubisoft game since like 2000 or something.  They take DRM to Ludicrous Speed levels.  And way to go in taking the "Rainbow Six" FPS franchise into the dirt.

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  Vesavius

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2/05/12 11:59:57 AM#69
Originally posted by xDayx

Im a fairly experienced pc gamer but cant understand the hatred for EA. Other than nickel and diming Sims expansions(which I dont blame them for), why the hate for EA?

 

 

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  Solarstriker

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2/05/12 12:08:34 PM#70

They killed Earth & Beyond...

They killed Westwood...

  Ikeda

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2/05/12 12:15:54 PM#71
Originally posted by Solarstriker

They killed Earth & Beyond...

They killed Westwood...

They killed Mythic...

They killed Bioware... (I'm not talking ToR here I'm talking DA2)

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  parrotpholk

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2/05/12 12:17:50 PM#72
Originally posted by Ikeda
Originally posted by Solarstriker

They killed Earth & Beyond...

They killed Westwood...

They killed Mythic...

They killed Bioware... (I'm not talking ToR here I'm talking DA2)

The do kill a lot of good studios but I do not  hate them.  I actually dislike activision much more than EA if being honest.  

  Dragonantis

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2/05/12 12:18:41 PM#73

They ruined many game series, best example is Command and Conquer 4.

 

  Recon48

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2/05/12 1:31:39 PM#74

In the mid 90's EA bought and gutted a lot of small but talented studios.  Crystal Dynamics comes to mind as one that I thought really had a lot of promise. In 2004 or 2005, they also killed off Papyrus by buying a 5 year exclusivity for NASCAR licensed games. Papyrus' niche was making a top notch racing sim for 8+ years that served up a great game & tools to both the racing and modding communities. Online teams, leagues, servers and mods were abundant during that time. Papyrus didn't survive the exclusivity, and when EA released its first licensed game it was a bugged mess and unplayable do to AI issues, and had nothing to offer the racing sim fans or the modding community.

  revy66

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2/05/12 1:33:45 PM#75

They shut down servers faster than they release games.

  fenistil

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2/05/12 1:33:55 PM#76
Originally posted by parrotpholk
Originally posted by Ikeda
Originally posted by Solarstriker

They killed Earth & Beyond...

They killed Westwood...

They killed Mythic...

They killed Bioware... (I'm not talking ToR here I'm talking DA2)

The do kill a lot of good studios but I do not  hate them.  I actually dislike activision much more than EA if being honest.  

Both EA and Activison-Blizzard are in same 'bad' league. They are equally bad imo.

  illorion

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2/05/12 1:34:14 PM#77

And they also have a nasty habit of breaking your game if you buy it used and forcing you to pay extra money to unlock gameplay that is locked only if you buy the used version. Not to mention that every series they lay their grubby little hands on turns to shit

"Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"

  User Deleted
2/05/12 1:36:01 PM#78
Originally posted by fenistil
Originally posted by parrotpholk
Originally posted by Ikeda
Originally posted by Solarstriker

They killed Earth & Beyond...

They killed Westwood...

They killed Mythic...

They killed Bioware... (I'm not talking ToR here I'm talking DA2)

The do kill a lot of good studios but I do not  hate them.  I actually dislike activision much more than EA if being honest.  

Both EA and Activison-Blizzard are in same 'bad' league. They are equally bad imo.

You forgot about SOE, another distributer that gets their greedly little hands on a good game and destroys it

  User Deleted
2/05/12 1:40:35 PM#79
Originally posted by Dragonantis

They ruined many game series, best example is Command and Conquer 4.

 

I beg to differ best example was Earth and Beyond a very successful space mmo with a strong following that EA aquired and immediately pulled the plug because they were not an mmo company and had no desire to manage an mmo.

10 years later they decided suddenly they are an mmo company and want to run one of the largest projects ever.

 

cough cough.. fail

  User Deleted
2/05/12 1:46:42 PM#80
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by IAmMMO
Originally posted by xDayx

Im a fairly experienced pc gamer but cant understand the hatred for EA. Other than nickel and diming Sims expansions(which I dont blame them for), why the hate for EA?

 

  If you're a Pc gamer, then you should know why there's a hate towards EA for many reasons. They've taken many good Pc gaming companies under their wing and killed what made their games loved by their fans.

 Go have a google on how many companies with land mark Pc game titles EA  has taken over and picked apart ,only for later titles released under the same name to be a shadow of  the games they were making before. People seemed to have forgotten about that for a time, Bioware is just one of their later companies they're now ruining the magic touch they had before.

Yeah I agree regarding Bioware, they produced some great games but after EA took it over, everything they produced just feels lacklustre. DAO 2 was dissapointment and so is SW:TOR, we will see how Mass Effect 3 turns out.

I am very worried about ME 3, EA investor call last year clearly stated they were only using Bioware for its name and were outsourcing the coding to India, Honestly I think some of the SWTOR coding was outsourced as well but that hasn't been admitted.

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