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  Wraithone

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1/29/12 8:57:57 PM#41
Originally posted by xDayx

Im a fairly experienced pc gamer but cant understand the hatred for EA. Other than nickel and diming Sims expansions(which I dont blame them for), why the hate for EA?

 

 

Lets start with a space game called Earth and Beyond.  It was a good game (lots of potential and quite enjoyable), until EA got their grubby mits on it. 

Long story short, they messed things up so badly that they ended up closing it. If I remember right it was the last game Westwood studios did. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_%26_Beyond

Next, we have Ultima X, Odyssey. It was to be an Ultima MMO, but EA ended the project, before it was launched. Some EA suit came up with the "bright" idea of moving all of the developers from Austin Texas, to California. Most refused to relocate, and that pretty much killed the project. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultima_X:_Odyssey

I could go on, and on like this, but you get the general idea.

Then of course there was the entire "EA spouse" incident, which demonstrated just how badly EA was treating their employees.  That got rather ugly. 

http://ea-spouse.livejournal.com/274.html

If thats not enough to justify the disgust and loathing many of us have for EA, there is much, much more... ^^

 

  skullquaker

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1/29/12 9:30:01 PM#42

just a shame only people who come in these type of forums give a crap i wont buy EA games   .  EA are like little kids with nice new shiny toys they give lot of love then  leave them to  rot  move on to the next thing

bf3 might look nice  id rather play 1942 with all the mods like deseert combat   . in its  heyday 1942 was awesome on line  epic tanks battles dog fights 

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  AutemOx

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1/29/12 9:37:54 PM#43

EA has churned out so many awful games based on movies and such...  They are obsessed with $$ and think the best way to get it is by screwing their audience over.  The only reason they've stopped doing that is because casual gamers have finally caught on to it.  SWTOR is just another example of how EA uses overly simplistic economic trends to make major decisions...  "WoW makes a lot of money lets just copy it and we will too".  It really is no way to design a game or to design a hit product.  You certainly should look at your competitors but trying to copy them exactly and tacking on a gimmick or two is not how you successfully expand a business.  EA will end up as old news if they do not change.

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  DarLorkar

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1/29/12 9:51:21 PM#44

Not really hate, just what is good for a business is not also always good for gamers.

They eat up alot of talented Dev companies that i think would of made better games in the end.

  jpnz

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1/29/12 9:57:25 PM#45
Originally posted by DarLorkar

Not really hate, just what is good for a business is not also always good for gamers.

They eat up alot of tanlented Dev companies that i think would of made better games in the end.

What is funny is that a purchase of a dev company has to be agreed by both parties.

I really don't get why only EA gets hate when without the dev company agreeing, the sale/purchase can not happen.

Say what you will but without EA's backing a lot of the games wouldn't have been even made.

Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect2 is a classic case where Bioware wouldn't have had the financial resources available to make them both, at least according to the financial statements from back then.

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  spaceport

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1/29/12 10:04:02 PM#46

They buy great franchises and kill them.

They buy great developers and kill them.

They buy great PC franchises and turn them into console shooters.

They nickle and dime removing content from their own games and selling it as DLC.

Their customer service is a joke.

They release terribad console ports for PC.

 

They are basically the cancer of video games.


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  slickbizzle

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1/29/12 10:08:51 PM#47
Originally posted by xDayx

Im a fairly experienced pc gamer but cant understand the hatred for EA. Other than nickel and diming Sims expansions(which I dont blame them for), why the hate for EA?

 

Honest answer: It's the latest trendy thing to do. 

 

Once MoP/GW2 comes out, those will be the new trendy things to hate on.

 

A never-ending, boring, sheep cycle.

  spaceport

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1/29/12 10:13:10 PM#48
Originally posted by slickbizzle
Originally posted by xDayx

Im a fairly experienced pc gamer but cant understand the hatred for EA. Other than nickel and diming Sims expansions(which I dont blame them for), why the hate for EA?

 

Honest answer: It's the latest trendy thing to do. 

 

Once MoP/GW2 comes out, those will be the new trendy things to hate on.

 

A never-ending, boring, sheep cycle.

Seems like you should do a bit of research about EA.


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  TheCrow2k

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1/29/12 10:19:32 PM#49
Originally posted by slickbizzle
Originally posted by xDayx

Im a fairly experienced pc gamer but cant understand the hatred for EA. Other than nickel and diming Sims expansions(which I dont blame them for), why the hate for EA?

 

Honest answer: It's the latest trendy thing to do. 

 

Once MoP/GW2 comes out, those will be the new trendy things to hate on.

 

A never-ending, boring, sheep cycle.

Its nothing new actually and its certainly not just a fad or something trendy. EA gets a lot of oldschool hate from the days when it would buy up Studios, claim their IP and promptly shut them down.

Probably the most famous (and long winded) shutdown & the one that remains a sore point for most who remember it was: Origin Systems (of Ultima & Wing Commander fame) who gave birth to Ultima Online and had highly anticipated titles: Ultima Online 2, Privateer Online & Harry Potter online among others which were shitcanned by EA. Now Origin only lives on as a Brand name owned by EA and now the name of EA's download service..... that last bit is like rubbing salt in the wound....


Other notables included:

 

Bulfrog Productions - of Syndicate (now a sad looking EA remake forthcoming, cept its FPS) & dungeon keeper fame

Westwood Studios - the studio that brough us great RPG titles like battletech, mars saga, eye of the beholder anf lets not forget RTS command & conquer.

Pandemic Studios - Battlezone 2, Darkreign 2 and the starwars battlefront series.

 

And many many more.....

  slickbizzle

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1/29/12 10:33:50 PM#50
Originally posted by spaceport
Seems like you should do a bit of research about EA.

 

Why would I do that? What will I find? That a major corporation that is in the business to make money is acting like a major corporation that is in the business to make money?   I hate to break it to you, but every major corporation has skeletons in their closet.

 "Not the one I support!"  

Yes. Even that one.

 

 

  PukeBucket

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1/29/12 11:51:09 PM#51


Originally posted by slickbizzle


Originally posted by spaceport


Seems like you should do a bit of research about EA.



 
Why would I do that? What will I find? That a major corporation that is in the business to make money is acting like a major corporation that is in the business to make money?   I hate to break it to you, but every major corporation has skeletons in their closet.
 "Not the one I support!"  
Yes. Even that one.
 
 

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  RelGn

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1/30/12 12:07:37 AM#52

The only thing i want is ea vanish from earth so we can start seeing quality games again.

  PukeBucket

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1/30/12 12:14:12 AM#53


Originally posted by reignjuste
The only thing i want is ea vanish from earth so we can start seeing quality games again.

I wouldn't mind seeing some companies really push making good games again rather than just waiting around for EA, Activision, Ubi, Rockstar, or Zenimax buy them up and then ruin their product.

I'm pretty sure that's the business plan for 90% of most indy game devs now a days.

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  Garkan

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1/30/12 12:25:02 AM#54
Originally posted by grunty

Well for one they are now suing Textron and Bell for the right to use images of those companies aircraft without compensation before Textron and Bell can sue them for doing so. EA doesn't want to pay for the use of someone else's intellectual property but want everyone to pay them for their own intellectual property.

Front page news locally.  http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/01/16/3663746/electronic-arts-sues-to-use-images.html

 

Thats just comedy gold, EA are the first to demand copywrite protection and liscencing fees but when the shoe is on the other foot they are all "its a free speech thing".

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  PukeBucket

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1/30/12 12:32:55 AM#55


Originally posted by Garkan


Originally posted by grunty
Well for one they are now suing Textron and Bell for the right to use images of those companies aircraft without compensation before Textron and Bell can sue them for doing so. EA doesn't want to pay for the use of someone else's intellectual property but want everyone to pay them for their own intellectual property.
Front page news locally.  http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/01/16/3663746/electronic-arts-sues-to-use-images.html


 
Thats just comedy gold, EA are the first to demand copywrite protection and liscencing fees but when the shoe is on the other foot they are all "its a free speech thing".
Nice find.

Gah.. It should be legal to just taze these guys.

In fact it's how we should celebrate the 4th of July.

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  Asm0deus

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1/30/12 12:39:10 AM#56
Originally posted by slickbizzle
Originally posted by spaceport
Seems like you should do a bit of research about EA.

 

Why would I do that? What will I find? That a major corporation that is in the business to make money is acting like a major corporation that is in the business to make money?   I hate to break it to you, but every major corporation has skeletons in their closet.

 "Not the one I support!"  

Yes. Even that one.

 

 

If you did as suggested you might find we all know companies are in it for the money, but you might also find EA has a whole damn gaveyard in the closet nevermind skeletons ;)

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  Quizzical

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1/30/12 12:43:50 AM#57

I played a couple of EA games.  They were awful.  Not merely not that great.  But, how could they conceivably think the game was ready for release bad.  And this was in the console era when you couldn't patch things later.  Madden had the excuse that the natural comparison to Tecmo Super Bowl would make a lot of games look bad.  But their basketball games had no such excuse.

Some flops are understandable, but some really aren't.  If a company tries something really innovative and it just doesn't work out, I probably won't disavow all future games from the company.  But the problem with EA is that the focus was on the graphics, and making things look superficially similar to real-life sports.  The gameplay itself got sorely neglected.  And the graphics weren't very good, either.

Here's how bad the gameplay was.  In a lot of basketball games, when players play for a while, they get tired and need to sit on the bench.  That's how it is in real life, too.  In the EA basketball game I played, if you call timeout immediately after the opening tipoff (2 seconds into the game), your starters are mostly tired and need to sit on the bench.  Already.

The two EA games I've played were so awful that I haven't tried any new games that they've come out with since then.  It's getting close to 20 years now.  EA was at the vanguard of the graphics over gameplay movement then, and while the graphics have gotten better, I don't see any reason to believe that their stance of heavy focus on graphics and not so much on gameplay has changed.  (SWTOR, incidentally, is merely the latest reason to believe that they haven't.  Even the most gushing of reviews can't find much nice to say about the combat that comprises most of the game.  But did you hear that it has zillions of voiceovers that you can skip?)

There's also EA's business model of buying well-respected game studios and then running them into the ground so that they soon stop making good games.

  spaceport

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1/30/12 12:45:45 AM#58
Originally posted by PukeBucket

 


Originally posted by Garkan


Originally posted by grunty
Well for one they are now suing Textron and Bell for the right to use images of those companies aircraft without compensation before Textron and Bell can sue them for doing so. EA doesn't want to pay for the use of someone else's intellectual property but want everyone to pay them for their own intellectual property.
Front page news locally.  http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/01/16/3663746/electronic-arts-sues-to-use-images.html



 
Thats just comedy gold, EA are the first to demand copywrite protection and liscencing fees but when the shoe is on the other foot they are all "its a free speech thing".
Nice find.


 

Gah.. It should be legal to just taze these guys.

In fact it's how we should celebrate the 4th of July.

http://i41.tinypic.com/5d44dl.png

Enjoy o.O


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  youngkg

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1/30/12 1:13:23 AM#59

EA has been haunting for years...

 

Started with the NFL2k series on xbox....Best football game ever made,highest reviewed football ever made, They even marked it down to 20 bucks just to compete with madden....Well it didnt just compete with madden it outsold it by the time the series reached 2k6...So what did EA do?,Put a better effort into the madden series? Nope ...they bought exclusive rights to the NFL brand officially ending the nfl 2k series and forcing gamers that wanted to play football to buy madden every year just for an updated roster because thats all they have really updated in the last 10 years or so...

 

But it doesnt end there,not to long after the 2k debacle they ended up taking away my favorite RTS games away from me also.....They bought westwood studios to get there foot in the RTS genre, As a result the Westwood staff left to form Petroglyph games and the Westwood brand IP's have been draged through the mud by EA for the last 10 years or so....

 

As if that wasnt enough....They had to take my favorite MMO (at the time)....So they bought Mythic...Pretty much stoped supporting DAOC....And gave us WaRhammer..A WOW clone that never resembled anything close to what DAOC offered in pvP or PvE...a huge fail of a game instead of giving us DAOC 2.0 which is what everyone that supported Mythic/EA wanted...

 

Those are my big 3 right there but the case could be made for the Bioware purchase....

Dragon Age origins = Pre EA,Dragon Age 2=Post EA....

Mass Effect 1 =Pre EA, Mass Effect 2 = Mass Effect 1 with better dialogue options....

nuff said...

  Maggon

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1/30/12 1:15:29 AM#60

To add to the thieving part - then I once pre-ordered a game, though when I had put in my billing info, and then clicked buy, an error occured, and I didden't get my product, well fair enough the money would most likely not have had been billed from my bank account... I thought, so I pre-ordered again, didden't get an error this time around, but then later found out that I had been charged 2 times.

 

I obviously valled their customer support to be told that they only recieved money once o.O

Took me a month or so before I gave up on their customer support since obviously wouldn't want to give me a refund for a game I never recieved, where as I ended up with even losing that pre-ordered copy of the game that I paid for again the second time so meh.

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