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  warmaster670

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/04/08
Posts: 1441

1/15/12 6:44:59 AM#61
Originally posted by Lobotomist
Originally posted by warmaster670
Originally posted by Lobotomist
Originally posted by warmaster670
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by Lobotomist
Originally posted by warmaster670
Originally posted by Lobotomist

 

No, mmorpg.com will never acknowledge this , neither would any other game site. But , when even the biggest player (gamespot) was caught red handed , what can you expect from small fishes like mmorpg.com

 


 

 

Since when is having no proof agaisnt you being caught red handed?

 

People love to scream about that incident, yet the fact remains, there was no proof.

And before someone comes in yelling about how im stupid blah blah blah no proof is no proof, and what i believe in regards to what happened is irrelevent.

 

Warmaster

You are either very young or have no experience with office buisnesses

 

There is no proof , because there cant be proof.

They didnt go to Gerstman and said you are fired because of the Dog Days review. No. They just fired him.

When you are fired in this buisness, if its "political" - you will never be given true reason.

 

But, it was so obvious and blatant. Plus the fact that EIDOS itself complained , and day after Gerstman was fired. Although he was one of the most popular reviewers on internet...

People just put 2+2 together.

 

 

I don't think 'caught red handed' means what you think it means.

The phrase is only used if it is based upon facts.

You do not have factual information (you even said so in your post).

Someones not old enough to read the dictionary I suppose, whether theyere can or can not be proof is irrelevent, there isnt any, and anything you say is pure speculation since, you know, you have NO PROOF.

 

Here ill say it again so it sinkcs in, NO PROOF.

 

I am amazed with this new age trend of demanding PROOF for everything.

Let me challenge you, very simple:

I say that you dont exist. Can you prove me that you do ?

Ya imagine that, people actually want proof for claims, you know what claims like this without proof are called? slander, maybe you just believe anything your tolr but smart people want proof.

 

 

 

 

You see what I did ?

made youself look foolish? keep going, but the fact of the matter is theres no proof, only speculation, but i suppose your not bright enough to understand that, but please, keep making yourself look like a fool wiuth examples that dont make sense.

Your about to go to jail, since you stole 1 million dollars from me, i dont need proof so good luck.

 

The funniest part about this is in your post you say that smart people need  proof, calling yourself stupid since you dont seem to see the need.

Originally posted by Lobotomist
 


They do.
Yes, smart people that exist.


 

 

 

 

Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.

  dronfwar

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Joined: 10/14/11
Posts: 322

1+1=1
(IMO)

1/15/12 6:46:22 AM#62
Originally posted by Kaijin2k3

All I know is - in my work - if I am given a particular piece of work to do for a set pay, went ahead and did it, but then decide to give that work away freely to others before the person paying me is even able to use it, I wouldn't just be fired; I'd be sued straight to the poor house and guaranteed to never work in my industry again.

Just sayin'.

It's more likely that they did not want to release his article here. Then he posted it as a user. Just thinking.

  Vesavius

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Joined: 3/08/04
Posts: 7029

Players come for the game, but they stay for the people- Most Devs have forgotten this.

1/15/12 6:46:28 AM#63
Originally posted by Kaijin2k3

All I know is - in my work - if I am given a particular piece of work to do for a set pay, went ahead and did it, but then decide to give that work away freely to others before the person paying me is even able to use it, I wouldn't just be fired; I'd be sued straight to the poor house and guaranteed to never work in my industry again.

Just sayin'.

 

I agree.

I'm no SWTOR fan, most know this, and I know what MMORPG.com is, I have been around here long enough to see how things work, but the guy was fired for pretty fair reasons.

The sad part is that he has invalidated his review by his actions, and it was a rare 'true' one IMO that had nothing to do with shilling or getting swept along in the hype.

 

 

  Darkholme

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Joined: 3/02/04
Posts: 1132

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer..."

1/15/12 6:46:59 AM#64

Actually it looks more like proof that Danny Wojcicki is an unprofessional, attention-whoring dbag that very much deserved to be fired...

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  karmath

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/24/05
Posts: 721

 
OP  1/15/12 6:47:25 AM#65
Originally posted by warmaster670
Originally posted by Lobotomist
Originally posted by warmaster670
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by Lobotomist
Originally posted by warmaster670
Originally posted by Lobotomist

 

No, mmorpg.com will never acknowledge this , neither would any other game site. But , when even the biggest player (gamespot) was caught red handed , what can you expect from small fishes like mmorpg.com

 


 

 

Since when is having no proof agaisnt you being caught red handed?

 

People love to scream about that incident, yet the fact remains, there was no proof.

And before someone comes in yelling about how im stupid blah blah blah no proof is no proof, and what i believe in regards to what happened is irrelevent.

 

Warmaster

You are either very young or have no experience with office buisnesses

 

There is no proof , because there cant be proof.

They didnt go to Gerstman and said you are fired because of the Dog Days review. No. They just fired him.

When you are fired in this buisness, if its "political" - you will never be given true reason.

 

But, it was so obvious and blatant. Plus the fact that EIDOS itself complained , and day after Gerstman was fired. Although he was one of the most popular reviewers on internet...

People just put 2+2 together.

 

 

I don't think 'caught red handed' means what you think it means.

The phrase is only used if it is based upon facts.

You do not have factual information (you even said so in your post).

Someones not old enough to read the dictionary I suppose, whether theyere can or can not be proof is irrelevent, there isnt any, and anything you say is pure speculation since, you know, you have NO PROOF.

 

Here ill say it again so it sinkcs in, NO PROOF.

 

I am amazed with this new age trend of demanding PROOF for everything.

Let me challenge you, very simple:

I say that you dont exist. Can you prove me that you do ?

Ya imagine that, people actually want proof for claims, you know what claims like this without proof are called? slander, maybe you just believe anything your tolr but smart people want proof.

 

Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by Lobotomist

I say that you dont exist. Can you prove me that you do ?


Why would he? You make the claim, thus burden of proof is upon your shoulders.


I am amazed with this new age trend of lack of critical thinking...

This, good thing reality doesnt work like this guys world, or else everyone would be in jail, since no proof is required for anything.

 

 

Irrefutable proof is not needed to be convicted of a crime.

Example:

guy 1 and guy 2 are in a room.

guy 1 shoots guy 2 and leaves the room.

guy 1 is spotted in the dark buy guy 3 leaving the room around the time of the crime.

guy 1 gets rid of all factual hard proof, the gun, this clothes ect.

guy 3 tells police what he saw.

guy 1 gets arrested and goes to court.

guy 1 will almost definitely be convicted for murder, yet there is no 'proof'.

Not knowing this simple concept only makes your posts invalid in their statements as you are not knowledgeable on the subject of 'proof'.

 

  NBlitz

Advanced Member

Joined: 2/16/08
Posts: 1816

"Give a man a mask and he will show you his true face."
Oscar Wilde

1/15/12 6:48:08 AM#66
Originally posted by warmaster670
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by Lobotomist
Originally posted by warmaster670
Originally posted by Lobotomist

 

No, mmorpg.com will never acknowledge this , neither would any other game site. But , when even the biggest player (gamespot) was caught red handed , what can you expect from small fishes like mmorpg.com

 


 

 

Since when is having no proof agaisnt you being caught red handed?

 

People love to scream about that incident, yet the fact remains, there was no proof.

And before someone comes in yelling about how im stupid blah blah blah no proof is no proof, and what i believe in regards to what happened is irrelevent.

 

Warmaster

You are either very young or have no experience with office buisnesses

 

There is no proof , because there cant be proof.

They didnt go to Gerstman and said you are fired because of the Dog Days review. No. They just fired him.

When you are fired in this buisness, if its "political" - you will never be given true reason.

 

But, it was so obvious and blatant. Plus the fact that EIDOS itself complained , and day after Gerstman was fired. Although he was one of the most popular reviewers on internet...

People just put 2+2 together.

 

 

I don't think 'caught red handed' means what you think it means.

The phrase is only used if it is based upon facts.

You do not have factual information (you even said so in your post).

Someones not old enough to know how to read a dictionary I suppose, whether theyere can or can not be proof is irrelevent, there isnt any, and anything you say is pure speculation since, you know, you have NO PROOF.

 

Here ill say it again so it sinkcs in, NO PROOF.

 

Educate yourself

 

.

Ouch. Pointing others to the dictionary and not using it yourself? Not cool.

  warmaster670

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/04/08
Posts: 1441

1/15/12 6:50:04 AM#67
Originally posted by karmath
Originally posted by warmaster670
Originally posted by Lobotomist
Originally posted by warmaster670
 

Someones not old enough to read the dictionary I suppose, whether theyere can or can not be proof is irrelevent, there isnt any, and anything you say is pure speculation since, you know, you have NO PROOF.

 

Here ill say it again so it sinkcs in, NO PROOF.

 

I am amazed with this new age trend of demanding PROOF for everything.

Let me challenge you, very simple:

I say that you dont exist. Can you prove me that you do ?

Ya imagine that, people actually want proof for claims, you know what claims like this without proof are called? slander, maybe you just believe anything your tolr but smart people want proof.

 

Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by Lobotomist

I say that you dont exist. Can you prove me that you do ?


Why would he? You make the claim, thus burden of proof is upon your shoulders.


I am amazed with this new age trend of lack of critical thinking...

This, good thing reality doesnt work like this guys world, or else everyone would be in jail, since no proof is required for anything.

 

 

Irrefutable proof is not needed to be convicted of a crime.

Example:

guy 1 and guy 2 are in a room.

guy 1 shoots guy 2 and leaves the room.

guy 1 is spotted out the corner of his eye in the dark buy guy 3 leaving the room around the time of the crime.

guy 1 gets rid of all factual hard proof, the gun, this clothes ect.

guy 3 tells police what he saw.

guy 1 gets arrested and goes to court.

guy 1 will almost definitely be convicted for murder, yet there is no 'proof'.

Not knowing this simple concept only makes your posts invalid in their statements as you are not knowledgeable on the subject of 'proof'.

 

And? none of that has anything to do with my post, I never said anything about the kind of proof required to convict someone, but if no proof was required for anything, you would just accuse someone and they would go to jail
.

Reading comprehension, get some.

Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.

  User Deleted
1/15/12 6:51:49 AM#68
Originally posted by warmaster670
Originally posted by Lobotomist
............................

made youself look stupid? keep going, but the fact of the matter is theres no proof, only speculation, but i suppose your not bright enough to understand that, but please, keep making yourself look like a fool wiuth examples that dont make sense.

Your about to go to jail, since you stole 1 million dollars from me, i dont need proof so good luck.

 

Kids and there thinking saying something makes it fact.

 

There is enough proof you are just ignoring facts. Go read articles about viral marketing and how internet sites, print magazines have been under pressure from big publishers why do you think sweatshop companies like EA and Activison can get away with all their crap?

They have influence on gaming sites and even connections with politics. Read the official review on this site again Graphics 9/10 really?

Just look at some "new members" before release they've been here since 3 month at best and easily reached 1.000 and more posts all praising a certain game and heavily flaming everyone with a different opinion...these are facts.

Viral marketers at some point will always make a mistake.

Yeah MMORPG.com has to make money but even they can't control honest opinions after the free month and thankfully €A can't either.

  warmaster670

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/04/08
Posts: 1441

1/15/12 6:52:00 AM#69
Originally posted by NBlitz
Originally posted by warmaster670
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by Lobotomist
Originally posted by warmaster670
Originally posted by Lobotomist

 

No, mmorpg.com will never acknowledge this , neither would any other game site. But , when even the biggest player (gamespot) was caught red handed , what can you expect from small fishes like mmorpg.com

 


 

 

Since when is having no proof agaisnt you being caught red handed?

 

People love to scream about that incident, yet the fact remains, there was no proof.

And before someone comes in yelling about how im stupid blah blah blah no proof is no proof, and what i believe in regards to what happened is irrelevent.

 

Warmaster

You are either very young or have no experience with office buisnesses

 

There is no proof , because there cant be proof.

They didnt go to Gerstman and said you are fired because of the Dog Days review. No. They just fired him.

When you are fired in this buisness, if its "political" - you will never be given true reason.

 

But, it was so obvious and blatant. Plus the fact that EIDOS itself complained , and day after Gerstman was fired. Although he was one of the most popular reviewers on internet...

People just put 2+2 together.

 

 

I don't think 'caught red handed' means what you think it means.

The phrase is only used if it is based upon facts.

You do not have factual information (you even said so in your post).

Someones not old enough to know how to read a dictionary I suppose, whether theyere can or can not be proof is irrelevent, there isnt any, and anything you say is pure speculation since, you know, you have NO PROOF.

 

Here ill say it again so it sinkcs in, NO PROOF.

 

Educate yourself

 

.

Ouch. Pointing others to the dictionary and not using it yourself? Not cool.

How am i n ot using it? or are you confusing a dictionary with spellcheck?

Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.

  warmaster670

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/04/08
Posts: 1441

1/15/12 6:53:10 AM#70
Originally posted by DerWotan
Originally posted by warmaster670
Originally posted by Lobotomist
............................

made youself look stupid? keep going, but the fact of the matter is theres no proof, only speculation, but i suppose your not bright enough to understand that, but please, keep making yourself look like a fool wiuth examples that dont make sense.

Your about to go to jail, since you stole 1 million dollars from me, i dont need proof so good luck.

 

Kids and there thinking saying something makes it fact.

 

There is enough proof you are just ignoring facts. Go read articles about viral marketing and how internet sites, print magazines have been under pressure from big publishers why do you think sweatshop companies like EA and Activison can get away with all their crap?

They have influence on gaming sites and even connections with politics. Read the official review on this site again Graphics 9/10 really?

Just look at some "new members" before release they've been here since 3 month at best and easily reached 1.000 and more posts all praising a certain game and heavily flaming everyone with a different opinion...these are facts.

Viral marketers at some point will always make a mistake.

Yeah MMORPG.com has to make money but even they can't control honest opinions after the free month and thankfully €A can't either.

again, someone who doesnt know what proof is, "this happens out tehre!" isnt proof that anything specific happened anywhere, no ones arguing whether it happens or not, but you have no actual proof.

Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.

  Gdemami

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Joined: 9/23/08
Posts: 5866

1/15/12 6:53:31 AM#71


Originally posted by warmaster670


Originally posted by karmath


Originally posted by warmaster670



Originally posted by Lobotomist



Originally posted by warmaster670



 
Someones not old enough to read the dictionary I suppose, whether theyere can or can not be proof is irrelevent, there isnt any, and anything you say is pure speculation since, you know, you have NO PROOF.
 
Here ill say it again so it sinkcs in, NO PROOF.

 
I am amazed with this new age trend of demanding PROOF for everything.
Let me challenge you, very simple:
I say that you dont exist. Can you prove me that you do ?


Ya imagine that, people actually want proof for claims, you know what claims like this without proof are called? slander, maybe you just believe anything your tolr but smart people want proof.
 

Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by Lobotomist

I say that you dont exist. Can you prove me that you do ?




Why would he? You make the claim, thus burden of proof is upon your shoulders.

I am amazed with this new age trend of lack of critical thinking...


This, good thing reality doesnt work like this guys world, or else everyone would be in jail, since no proof is required for anything.
 
 


Irrefutable proof is not needed to be convicted of a crime.

Example:

guy 1 and guy 2 are in a room.

guy 1 shoots guy 2 and leaves the room.

guy 1 is spotted out the corner of his eye in the dark buy guy 3 leaving the room around the time of the crime.

guy 1 gets rid of all factual hard proof, the gun, this clothes ect.

guy 3 tells police what he saw.

guy 1 gets arrested and goes to court.

guy 1 will almost definitely be convicted for murder, yet there is no 'proof'.

Not knowing this simple concept only makes your posts invalid in their statements as you are not knowledgeable on the subject of 'proof'.
 


And? none of that has anything to do with my post, I never said anything about the kind of proof required to convict someone, but if no proof was required for anything, you would just accuse someone and they would go to jail
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Reading comprehension, get some.

I spotted out the corner of my eye Lobotomist stealing 1 million dollars from warmaster670.

  Onomic

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1/15/12 6:53:37 AM#72

While i agree with his review, the way he went about pretty much forced em to let him go.

Review an mmorpg is kinda hard as 1st impression of the product is not enough to give em a fair score, you realy need dig deep and spend alot of time in em befor you get a good picture.

Only thing we as users can do is to study the review of those that make em and when they match ur own score over and over then you can start to pay attention to em. Befor that your better off just playing the game and have a look yourself as a review might not reflect your own view at all.

I know noone on this staff reflect my own view on pretty much every game they review so to me they are a waste to read.

 

  drbaltazar

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1/15/12 6:55:25 AM#73

and?did you just wake up?who cares!there are ton of private guys and girls reviewing lol!i said it in the past lobbying of all genre is huge business.it doesnt bring player in for the monthly you might pay your past due with the first month but if your game doesnt deliver people will go back to wow ,not because it is the best not because it became a chatroom in its own right.

and the next game that is popular is gona have instanced event(swtor has it)and non instance event ,it has some of it but doesnt have world raid pvp for some reason even tho it looks like the hardnes of the raid was calculated with pvp in mind!so maybe it is a futur thing dont know.

this game isnt far from it but it need one other thing it need to stop fragmenting people in group of 50 ,just double the amount gees

 

 

  NBlitz

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1/15/12 6:57:10 AM#74
Originally posted by warmaster670
Originally posted by NBlitz
Originally posted by warmaster670
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by Lobotomist
Originally posted by warmaster670
Originally posted by Lobotomist

 

No, mmorpg.com will never acknowledge this , neither would any other game site. But , when even the biggest player (gamespot) was caught red handed , what can you expect from small fishes like mmorpg.com

 


 

 

Since when is having no proof agaisnt you being caught red handed?

 

People love to scream about that incident, yet the fact remains, there was no proof.

And before someone comes in yelling about how im stupid blah blah blah no proof is no proof, and what i believe in regards to what happened is irrelevent.

 

Warmaster

You are either very young or have no experience with office buisnesses

 

There is no proof , because there cant be proof.

They didnt go to Gerstman and said you are fired because of the Dog Days review. No. They just fired him.

When you are fired in this buisness, if its "political" - you will never be given true reason.

 

But, it was so obvious and blatant. Plus the fact that EIDOS itself complained , and day after Gerstman was fired. Although he was one of the most popular reviewers on internet...

People just put 2+2 together.

 

 

I don't think 'caught red handed' means what you think it means.

The phrase is only used if it is based upon facts.

You do not have factual information (you even said so in your post).

Someones not old enough to know how to read a dictionary I suppose, whether theyere can or can not be proof is irrelevent, there isnt any, and anything you say is pure speculation since, you know, you have NO PROOF.

 

Here ill say it again so it sinkcs in, NO PROOF.

 

Educate yourself

 

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Ouch. Pointing others to the dictionary and not using it yourself? Not cool.

How am i n ot using it? or are you confusing a dictionary with spellcheck?

I do it old school hun 

That spellcheck didn't magically appear out of thin air. It uses word out of a ..........

You get a cookie if you guess right.

  drbaltazar

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1/15/12 7:01:45 AM#75

so should this thread be closed ?the only thing you found to argue about is gramatical?patato,potato?who cares gees!

  bloodaxes

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1/15/12 7:03:55 AM#76
Originally posted by dronfwar
Originally posted by Kaijin2k3

All I know is - in my work - if I am given a particular piece of work to do for a set pay, went ahead and did it, but then decide to give that work away freely to others before the person paying me is even able to use it, I wouldn't just be fired; I'd be sued straight to the poor house and guaranteed to never work in my industry again.

Just sayin'.

It's more likely that they did not want to release his article here. Then he posted it as a user. Just thinking.

They didn't want to publish the review he wrote Bill clearly says it in the locked thread:

"I was prepared to post it here as "Why I Don't Like SWTOR", a piece that would give players who are not fans of BioWare's latest a viewpoint that they can sympathize with.  Despite the article's somewhat one-sided deragatory nature, we were working out with Danny an article where he would debate against a fan of SWTOR the merits and demerits of the game. "

  drbaltazar

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1/15/12 7:11:36 AM#77
Originally posted by bloodaxes
Originally posted by dronfwar
Originally posted by Kaijin2k3

All I know is - in my work - if I am given a particular piece of work to do for a set pay, went ahead and did it, but then decide to give that work away freely to others before the person paying me is even able to use it, I wouldn't just be fired; I'd be sued straight to the poor house and guaranteed to never work in my industry again.

Just sayin'.

It's more likely that they did not want to release his article here. Then he posted it as a user. Just thinking.

They didn't want to publish the review he wrote Bill clearly says it in the locked thread:

"I was prepared to post it here as "Why I Don't Like SWTOR", a piece that would give players who are not fans of BioWare's latest a viewpoint that they can sympathize with.  Despite the article's somewhat one-sided deragatory nature, we were working out with Danny an article where he would debate against a fan of SWTOR the merits and demerits of the game. "

so if it isnt to your take everybody is forced to hate it to mr emperor?sorry but so far as i know only one nation has an emperor its china ,for now the miitary and their emperor might have a diverging opinion on whatever made the chasm between them in the past but china still has an emporor ,and it is the only nation i know that has one so sorry mr but a lot of player dont feel like they dont  love the game.it is a rp biased raid pvp pve world and instanced game so if you dont like rp ,dont go but if you like a good story and the mood to go with it then you will love swtor.iv see lot of player playing with their own noise and then wonder what the fuss is about its a whole it isnt one thing ,the music is timed right the mood of it ,a catastrophe happen the music make you feel it at time ,sometime it is so annoying you re like wtf is there an assasin around etc etc

i wont say its for everybody but casual gamer will love it!

  Torgrim

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1/15/12 7:11:46 AM#78

You don't have to be a rocket sientist to understand SWTOR review stinks kickbacks.

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  zymurgeist

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1/15/12 7:13:45 AM#79
Originally posted by drbaltazar

so should this thread be closed ?the only thing you found to argue about is gramatical?patato,potato?who cares gees!

 Dan Quail wold be so disappointed that you forgot "potatoe,"

But yeah not only was the guy taking a bit of an ego trip about his review, he was dituting the content of the site by posting it other places and now he's being disingenuous about why he was let go. There are people posting better quality criticisms about swtor here for free. Not that I agree with most of it.

"Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice." ~Greys Law

  drbaltazar

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1/15/12 7:14:35 AM#80

yes review have been biased since lobbying started existing ,its like people saying we dont support gold seller,?ya?countless site you visit everyday are owned by gold seller and in korea gold seller are legal so good luck if the guy is based in korea lol

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