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General Discussion  » Give me 1 thing. that SWTOR Does 100% diffrent or new from any mmorpg every made

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  Nykyrian

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OP  1/09/12 6:44:45 AM#1

Curious, and i'm talking about a broad veiw i'm not looking for little things like light sabers i mean something completely new... that has never been done or created before.  And before u say voice over quests derp, every mmorpg now a days has a story   

Go?.

  Fadedbomb

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1/09/12 6:48:25 AM#2
Originally posted by Nykyrian

Curious, and i'm talking about a broad veiw i'm not looking for little things like light sabers i mean something completely new... that has never been done or created before.  And before u say voice over quests derp, every mmorpg now a days has a story   

Go?.

Just to reinforce the point that Nykyrian is making.

 

Nyk is talking about the tired argument that SWTOR does "Fully Voiced Questing". Well, MOST modern MMORPGs do that now in their main storylines so it's nothing new. The only thing SWTOR did was simply "extend" how much voiced questing is done in their game. NOTHING NEW!

 

 

However Nykyrian, I'd like to point out that NO ONE has ever claimed that SWTOR does anything new. It's just a rehersed fully voiced version of WoW set in the StarWars universe. NOTHING new, and has NEVER been claimed to be new.

 

Additionally, everyone I know who was "Raving" about SWTOR has now quit. So I'm not sure how well SWTOR will do by June.

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  Vrika

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1/09/12 7:01:16 AM#3

Party dialogue choises. I think that's a mechanicsm not used in any MMO ever before.

  Fadedbomb

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1/09/12 7:02:24 AM#4
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by Naqaj

One thing that TOR does 100% new:

Drive haters to make really useless and increasingly stupid posts about how it's a bad game.

that's not new.

I agree that's not new. However, claiming he's a "hater" is biased, and people stuck in this simplistic way of labeling people in order to belittle them would put YOU into the "Rabid Fanboi" column.

 

I'd like to point out that I've NEVER seen anyone put into the "Gray" column of just wanting a decent game. I almost ALWAYS find that people whom are slightly NEGATIVE or slightly POSITIVE about a particular game are ONLY put into the "Hater" or "Fanboi" gamer groups.

 

Why don't we have one that is simply "Average Gamer"? Just because the OP does NOT like SWTOR doesn't mean he's a hater. It, quite simply, may be that he's tired of seeing hand-holding themepark games being the products advocated so much without any REAL evidence to show that they MAY in fact not be the "One Game to Rule them All".

 

[edit]: Fixed for clarification

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  blondeh

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SWG PRE-CU FTW!

1/09/12 7:03:03 AM#5

I could liste a few things that I've never see in another mmorpg and ive played pretty much most of them. {mod edit}

Have a nice day

  Fadedbomb

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1/09/12 7:03:31 AM#6
Originally posted by Vrika

Party dialogue choises. I think that's a mechanicsm not used in any MMO ever before.

Age of Conan touched on this with that Oriental expansion. You could choose a "Party Dialogue" choice depending on whom was in your party for that particular quest.

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  Fadedbomb

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1/09/12 7:04:38 AM#7

Bleh

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  Ikeda

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1/09/12 7:04:49 AM#8

It has a bug where it shrinks a certain NPC.

It doesn't let you search the Auction House unless you first give it a make and model.

What are you looking for?  It's a game.  The 8000000000 call of duties are hardly more innovative than the original Wolfenstein.  Either play and enjoy the game, or don't.  Not every game has to be new, or eye popping, or dazzling.  It's a story that is fun.  While it may not be a WoW ( and certainly we can all agree that WoW sized MMOs are the exception and not the rule) it is fun in its own rights.

  Naqaj

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1/09/12 7:05:19 AM#9
Originally posted by Fadedbomb
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by Naqaj

One thing that TOR does 100% new:

Drive haters to make really useless and increasingly stupid posts about how it's a bad game.

that's not new.

I agree that's not new. However, claiming he's a "hater" is biased, and puts YOU into the "Rabid Fanboi" column.

By the unspoken rules of the web, I'm a hater too, as I didn't enjoy the game. I was hoping my post was exaggerated enough to make it clear it was a snarky comment. It seems I wasn't obvious enough.

{mod edit}

  Icewhite

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1/09/12 7:08:49 AM#10
Originally posted by Fadedbomb

I'd like to point out that I've NEVER seen anyone put into the "Gray" column of just wanting a decent game. I almost ALWAYS find that people whom are slightly NEGATIVE or slightly POSITIVE about a particular game are ONLY put into the "Hater" or "Fanboi" gamer groups. 

Welcome to message boards.  And yes, it's sad.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  MattNe

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1/09/12 7:13:55 AM#11
Originally posted by Nykyrian

Curious, and i'm talking about a broad veiw i'm not looking for little things like light sabers i mean something completely new... that has never been done or created before.  And before u say voice over quests derp, every mmorpg now a days has a story   

Go?.

I'll takle the bait,

 

There is nothing new...but...I challenge you to give me 1 new or different game...not since the 90's has there been a 'new' or 'different' MMO.

  Fadedbomb

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1/09/12 7:29:27 AM#12
Originally posted by MattNe
Originally posted by Nykyrian

Curious, and i'm talking about a broad veiw i'm not looking for little things like light sabers i mean something completely new... that has never been done or created before.  And before u say voice over quests derp, every mmorpg now a days has a story   

Go?.

I'll takle the bait,

 

There is nothing new...but...I challenge you to give me 1 new or different game...not since the 90's has there been a 'new' or 'different' MMO.

Dark & Light (2006), however that game was PLAGUED with management literally STEALING funds from the company where they could have been thrown @ development team for a more polished game.

 

-Open-World taming, you could tame literally ANYTHING that wasn't sentient.

-Open-World flight based on a creature you TAMED. Video

 

Shadowbane (2003) was also relatively innovative with their open-world claiming & war system. HIGHLY innovative PVE experience to top that off.

 

Dark Age of Camelot (2001), need I say anything here?

 

Planetside (2003), yea...i went there!

 

Star Wars Galaxies (2003), yea....i went there AGAIN!

 

These FIVE games stick out in my mind post-90s that were TRULY innovative within the MMO market. These games provided new elements to the MMO genre, and some are even being reused "lightly" within the genre. (Aka: DAOC's battleground system copied by WoW.)

 

 

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  moosecatlol

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1/09/12 7:33:20 AM#13

I like this fadedbomb fella, he goes There.

 

  oobla

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1/09/12 7:35:15 AM#14

I'm suprised that anyone would start a thread like this .

Its pretty obvious .

The cut scenes with moral choices and the in game companion that you interact with .

Dunno if the OP was trying to be a smart a**e if so he obvously doesnt have the stones for it or whether he was asking a genuine question in which case I've just answered it for him .

  Fadedbomb

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1/09/12 7:35:50 AM#15
Originally posted by moosecatlol

I like this fadedbomb fella, he goes There.

 

Well, There being the applicable term for somewhere other than here then yes I've been "There" :3!

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  Bunks

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1/09/12 7:38:18 AM#16
Originally posted by Fadedbomb
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by Naqaj

One thing that TOR does 100% new:

Drive haters to make really useless and increasingly stupid posts about how it's a bad game.

that's not new.

I'd like to point out that I've NEVER seen anyone put into the "Gray" column of just wanting a decent game. I almost ALWAYS find that people whom are slightly NEGATIVE or slightly POSITIVE about a particular game are ONLY put into the "Hater" or "Fanboi" gamer groups.

 

Amazing isn't it?

 

I don't hate the game, I don't like the game. What I won't do is pay for something that isn't enjoyable. On the other hand, my son hates the game mainly because he is angry he is out good cash. We have 5 guys on our ventrillo server who are fuming for many different reasons (customer support, bad lag, one claims outright deception on BW's part). It's not hard to understand their anger just as it's not hard to understand those who are having fun with the game shaking their heads. What is amazing, is the hypersensitivity at which people are defending the game, and the vitriolic hyperbole at which they are attacking it. They are both equals in their lack of maturity no matter how you look at it.

  Fadedbomb

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1/09/12 7:39:10 AM#17
Originally posted by oobla

I'm suprised that anyone would start a thread like this .

Its pretty obvious .

The cut scenes with moral choices and the in game companion that you interact with .

Dunno if the OP was trying to be a smart a**e if so he obvously doesnt have the stones for it or whether he was asking a genuine question in which case I've just answered it for him .

Done in Age of Conan...

 

Done in Guild Wars, granted they're not companions YOU drag around EVERYWHERE, but you still could interact with them.

Also, another such "vaguely" referenced material could be brought back to SWG Pre-NGE where you had factional "pets" that were essentially companions that you could easily interact with for various options.

What i'm trying to say here, is that NEITHER the TWO points you brought up are new in any way thanks to SWTOR my friend.

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  slickbizzle

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1/09/12 7:39:42 AM#18
Originally posted by Nykyrian

Curious, and i'm talking about a broad veiw i'm not looking for little things like light sabers i mean something completely new... that has never been done or created before.  And before u say voice over quests derp, every mmorpg now a days has a story   

Go?.

 

It made me believe in the power of love.

  User Deleted
1/09/12 7:39:44 AM#19

I didn't think it was advertised as bringing something new to the genre, except for the full voice overs. One thing it has brought to the genre from a long time gamer, is my interest again, been years since I have been addicted to a game.  Work, family, then SWTOR for a little almost everyday.

  korent1991

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1/09/12 7:46:03 AM#20
Originally posted by slickbizzle
Originally posted by Nykyrian

Curious, and i'm talking about a broad veiw i'm not looking for little things like light sabers i mean something completely new... that has never been done or created before.  And before u say voice over quests derp, every mmorpg now a days has a story   

Go?.

 

It made me believe in the power of love.

hahahaha... You should get a medal.

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