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OP  1/05/12 11:14:19 AM#1

The day has finally arrived and we are ready to publish our official Review of Star Wars: The Old Republic. Sit back and get ready to read THE most comprehensive and authoritative review of the game that has taken the world by storm. Enjoy!

Three years since Star Wars: The Old Republic was officially announced and countless articles later, it’s finally come time to put this behemoth of a game through its paces and give it our official review. If you’re somehow unfamiliar with the game, Star Wars: The Old Republic is RPG powerhouse BioWare’s first foray into the MMO genre. The game is based on the wildly successful Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic RPG series and is set around 300 years after the events of the original games.

Read more of Mike Bitton's Star Wars: The Old Republic - The Official SWTOR Review.

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1/06/12 5:21:52 AM#2

prety good game, but I already unsubbed 


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1/06/12 5:24:56 AM#3

For me SWTOR is 8.5, changes to UI and it is 9. So yeah i agree with what ever you wrote in the review. I am still waiting for because that is my last stop for all reviewing needs.

You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty -- Mahatma Gandhi


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1/06/12 5:36:27 AM#4

Crafting is fun? Wonder how much they got paid.


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1/06/12 5:38:29 AM#5
Originally posted by Lowcaian

Crafting is fun? Wonder how much they got paid.

Usually when i don't agree with what critics have to say i simply throw 'you must be paid' retort. it always makes me look cool.

You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty -- Mahatma Gandhi


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1/06/12 5:43:21 AM#6

I do find the crafting a lot of fun, actually. 

And the review is fair in my opinion. 


Is it like WoW? Yes. It plays and feels like an upgraded WoW though. 

And that is a pretty great thing when you've been playing WoW for 6 years. 

The game is a lot of fun and is a step further for the genre. With additions over time for things like UI custimization, LFG improvements, and expansion of space combat it'll be quite the game.



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1/06/12 5:45:01 AM#7

Yes, crafting is fun.  For once in an MMO I'm not bored to tears by it and every character I play utilized it to the highest degree.

Replayability I thought would be rough, but after hitting 50 with my BH and skipping all heroics I now am 20 on my Marauder and loving it and I've come to Balmorra and realize I can level on Heroics alone.


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1/06/12 5:46:50 AM#8

you described the cons of SWTOR in the text, but then you rate it with 8 or 9. that does not fit.

there are 2 things which are outstanding and may change the industry:

1. full voiced great stories: i am sure, that other AAA games will follow this path. even if in sandbox-type-quests and also in a good dynamic-event system there is less need for voice or text at all, which makes it less cost-extensive to produce new content.

2. the companion system: we saw extensive and flexible pet-systems already in some asian games, but Bioware made it ecen better. full voiced, full equippable and highly interacting pets will also survive in game industry.

looking to the rest of the game, especially the endgame, SWTOR missed the future badly. i expect some sandparks launching this year. either sandboxes with additional theme-park elements (e.g. ArchAge) or theme-parks adding more dynamics and getting rid of this unholy linearity (e.g. GW2). what i am missing in an extreme theme-park like SWTOR is:

- dynamic content, especially for endgame but better from the early beginning

- player driven economy

- largescale, open and mostly unregulated territorial pvp in huge dedicated zones

- player build and controlled cities ( i dream about something detailed like Minecraft, but doubt its possible in anMMO)

- an open skill-system instead of levels with talentrees (pseudo freedom)

combine these sandbox elements with the great stories from SWTOR and have an idea to overcome the conflict between good story and sandbox-neccesarities (e.g lootdrops vs. player-driven economy) and you got the so called NextGen. 

SWTOR is nice, and i will play it for a month or two. like i played Skyrim for a while. would i play this game, 5 years, like i played EQ or 3 years like EVE? Never!

played: Everquest I (6 years), EVE (3 years)
months: EQII, Vanguard, Siedler Online, SWTOR, Guild Wars 2
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1/06/12 5:47:28 AM#9

I sense a lot of anger coming to this review


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I've got this creature on my back.. it just wont let go.

1/06/12 5:48:00 AM#10

TOR’s PvP is basically a better balanced evolution of Warhammer Online’s PvP.




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1/06/12 5:57:53 AM#11
Originally posted by 77lolmac77

I sense a lot of anger coming to this review

"you're fooling yourself if you don't believe it
You're kidding yourself if you don't believe it
How can you be such an angry young man
When your future looks quite bright to me..." Styx

Or in anouther word the future for TOR dose look quite bright to me.


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1/06/12 5:58:06 AM#12

Good review!

Their recently announced addition of a 50 warzone bracket and improvements to world pvp are very much needed though.

I simply stopped queueing solo for wz's at the moment as I haven't been able to hand in the daily pvp quest for more than a week (all losses). Getting facestomped by level 50 pre-made teams all the time is about as fun as being in a car crash.


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1/06/12 6:01:10 AM#13
Originally posted by DarkPony

Good review!

Their recently announced addition of a 50 warzone bracket and improvements to world pvp are very much needed though.

I simply stopped queueing solo for wz's at the moment as I haven't been able to hand in the daily pvp quest for more than a week (all losses). Getting facestomped by level 50 pre-made teams all the time is about as fun as being in a car crash.


Sounds to me you need to join or form a pre-made.


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1/06/12 6:01:15 AM#14

The review doesn't go into any of the games problems. 


Was fun for awhile, got bored and unsubbed already like all my friends have, kinda like DCUO.


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1/06/12 6:05:30 AM#15

Good game, I know more people joining everyday.


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1/06/12 6:08:08 AM#16
Originally posted by Shivam
Originally posted by Lowcaian

Crafting is fun? Wonder how much they got paid.

Usually when i don't agree with what critics have to say i simply throw 'you must be paid' retort. it always makes me look cool.

If it's true it makes you look even cooler.


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1/06/12 6:08:14 AM#17

Seems to me, especially considering the pros and cons put forward, that those ratings are artificially inflated. Take innovation for example: The pro is it's brought in conversations instead of quest text. The con is it's brought nothing else, yet it still gets an 8/10 in that category.


Same again in Aesthetics, the pro is the worlds look decidedly Star Wars, the cons state the character quality is bad, the armor designs aren't great, and the visual progression isn't good either. The other pro is the characters look great in conversations, but the con is the UI is terrible and canned lines are repeated too often. Yet this somehow got a 9/10.


Seems to me like the reviewer loves the conversations to the point of overlooking the rest of the flaws.


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1/06/12 6:08:49 AM#18

Good, just like WAR was good, Rift was good, etc, etc.

All amazing for first few months, with some niggles.

Long term playability? Nil, and SWTOR is the same unfortunately, unless some Dev here can tell me about a mechanic i don't know about that isn't about story?


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1/06/12 6:14:14 AM#19
Originally posted by Shivam

For me SWTOR is 8.5, changes to UI and it is 9. So yeah i agree with what ever you wrote in the review. I am still waiting for because that is my last stop for all reviewing needs.

SO if you give it an 8.5, and IGN gives it, say, a 6.0, will you stop playing the game because of your "Last Stop For All Reviewing Needs"?  I enjoy the game as a PAYING nerd.  I don't need some PAID nerd's opinion on it.


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1/06/12 6:15:12 AM#20
Is this on a scale of 1 to 10 or maybe 5 to 10?

"This aspect sucks so unfortunately I have to give it a 7.5."

"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." -Dr. Seuss

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