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  UtukuMoon

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OP  1/03/12 9:35:54 AM#1

As we know we are seeing review after review of SWTOR,some are way overblown and some are less appraising but some imo are fair enough IMO

This is one such review..

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/star-wars-the-old-republic-review

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8ymgFyzbDo

  drbaltazar

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1/03/12 9:41:59 AM#2

ognore this review was made in beta era!

use the 2 and a half hour pod cast of the britsh dude cant recall his name.he just released his padcast review(hear only)

it give a fair outlook on what swtor is and isnt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1ls5L4blYM 

  Abdar

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1/03/12 9:44:16 AM#3

That's a very solid review..

 

EDIT: The first one that is.

  NaughtyP

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1/03/12 10:08:52 AM#4

I don't think the score reflects the article, although I don't think the article is bad itself. He says so many negative things. It's hard for me to read that and somehow come to the conclusion it's an 8/10 game based on what he wrote. Ah well.

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  Gomez757

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1/03/12 2:39:58 PM#5

The question is why does a GW2 fan/SWToR hater seems to like reviews that are mostly negative? Why oh why?

Only the Rift fanbois missing, what could they be doing? :)

  Cthulhu23

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1/03/12 2:51:01 PM#6

It's a pretty decent, in-depth review, and touches on some of the issues I have with the game, as well as giving the game an 8/10, which is exactly the score I would give it.  

I definitely disagree with the reviewer's take on the storyline, however.  He minimalizes the impact of the writing on the game, and what makes it BETTER than your standard quest grind.  I find th writing and voice acting to be pretty damn good in most cases, and it has a huge positive impact on the overall feel of the game and the questing.  

But he made some good points.  I particularly liked that he, unlike many reviewers, talked about how there are alternative ways to level up in this game besides doing the same quests all the way through.  This game has a lot of content at release, and the replayability is much better than people give it credit for if you are willing to think outside the box a bit.  

  Wickedjelly

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1/03/12 2:54:19 PM#7
Originally posted by Gomez757

The question is why does a GW2 fan/SWToR hater seems to like reviews that are mostly negative? Why oh why?

Only the Rift fanbois missing, what could they be doing? :)

Are you kidding? His review wasn't 'mostly negative". He gave it an 8/10 for christ's sake. All in all I thought it was a rather fair and sensible review.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Precusor

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1/03/12 2:57:28 PM#8

So now were supposed to trust reviews?

  UtukuMoon

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OP  1/03/12 3:06:23 PM#9
Originally posted by Gomez757

The question is why does a GW2 fan/SWToR hater seems to like reviews that are mostly negative? Why oh why?

Only the Rift fanbois missing, what could they be doing? :)

The question is: why the hell would you care what i think about the game? You call an 8/10 negative,i would like to know what you class as a poor review then lol.

Plus this thread was actually posted in the pub forum on this site not in the swtor forums,obviously it's been moved.I actually think it was a positive review  compared to some of the overbloated reviews we are getting.If GW2 get's an 8/10 ill be more than happy.

As someone mentioned in this thread,he actually gives it a score that does not reflect what he is saying,i would be happy if i was a fan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8ymgFyzbDo

  Robsolf

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Let go of my ears, I know what I'm doing!

1/03/12 3:34:31 PM#10

"(As a friend put it, in this game Han shoots first and then loots the corpse.) "

Sad but true.  That's MMO's, though.  I do wish games would at least get away from the vendor trash concept.  From a gameplay standpoint, it doesn't do much harm in SWTOR since your companion can drop the stuff off.  But imagine Luke in the beginning of RotJ choking that Gamorrean guard, then frantically digging through it's pockets for creds.  No matter what you play, you are considered the "best of the best", yet even as a light side Jedi you have all the morals of Tin Tin from The Crow, harvesting the dead and selling their life off in a Pawn Shop for pennies on the dollar.

It's been such an MMO(and RPG) staple for so long, it often takes somebody who's thinking outside that box to point it out to you.

But anyhoo, in general I'd say this review is pretty fair.  Don't agree 100%, but it's both fair and informative, IMO.

  DarLorkar

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1/03/12 3:40:49 PM#11
Originally posted by Precusor

So now were supposed to trust reviews?

My point as well.

Seems each and every review is a one off. Based on nothing but opinion, and compared to itself only.

If you compare it to nothing and have no criterion, than how can any review be used by anyone other than the reviewer?

By design that is what we are getting, Opinions, called reviews, and scores, that apply to THAT person only. And we can take nothing away from them other  than the reviewers opinion for themselves. We could not use it to compare to anything else.

Is it a good game? We will still not know.  No one uses any basis or criterion to deliver any score that would mean anything as compared to anything else we can go and play anymore.

Which just rewards and perpetuates the way the MMO industry goes. Publishers make a killing on box sales. And the customers just have to buy the box to see if the game is any good.

 

 

  NaughtyP

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1/03/12 3:42:17 PM#12
Originally posted by Gomez757

The question is why does a GW2 fan/SWToR hater seems to like reviews that are mostly negative? Why oh why?

Only the Rift fanbois missing, what could they be doing? :)

It's a pretty well written and complete review. Someone can agree/disagree with a review but still think there is value in it. Meh, not sure why I bother trying to explain myself here. You can't say much without getting pooped on.

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  moosecatlol

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1/03/12 3:44:34 PM#13

After reading the comments, I'm starting to get the vibe the euro gamer has a hard-on for the number 8.

 

Also I saw nothing about the sound draw radius and the clunky animations : \

 

  Pelaaja

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1/03/12 3:51:04 PM#14
Originally posted by Precusor
Originally posted by Gomez757

The question is why does a GW2 fan/SWToR hater seems to like reviews that are mostly negative? Why oh why?

Only the Rift fanbois missing, what could they be doing? :)

[Mod Edit]

It's 8 out of 10 final score, no matter how it was reached. It's a high score for a MMO in any but MMO centric environment.

  Pelaaja

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1/03/12 3:55:10 PM#15
Originally posted by Robsolf

"(As a friend put it, in this game Han shoots first and then loots the corpse.) "

Sad but true.  That's MMO's, though.  I do wish games would at least get away from the vendor trash concept.  From a gameplay standpoint, it doesn't do much harm in SWTOR since your companion can drop the stuff off.  But imagine Luke in the beginning of RotJ choking that Gamorrean guard, then frantically digging through it's pockets for creds.  No matter what you play, you are considered the "best of the best", yet even as a light side Jedi you have all the morals of Tin Tin from The Crow, harvesting the dead and selling their life off in a Pawn Shop for pennies on the dollar.

It's been such an MMO(and RPG) staple for so long, it often takes somebody who's thinking outside that box to point it out to you.

But anyhoo, in general I'd say this review is pretty fair.  Don't agree 100%, but it's both fair and informative, IMO.

That red text is actually done in a MMO (ok, I've played it for 2 weeks but haven't stumbled upon such yet so I assume the rest of the game is the same).

EVE. There's no vendor thrash. Just to point out that it has been done and is doable, I think EVE has the most realistic market there is in MMOs. I might be wrong though.

  Jetrpg

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1/03/12 3:56:26 PM#16

I don't see how any mmos of late get above a 7/10 . Swtor and rift may be the exceptions. But just at an 8/10, honestly there have not been any great mmos in a  long time.

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  Serelisk

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1/03/12 4:21:21 PM#17

It's weird to me that, after reading the review, SWTOR got an 8. The way it was written, showcasing many of the author's disappointments with the game, I thought it was going to have like, a 6. lol

  moosecatlol

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1/03/12 5:02:42 PM#18
Originally posted by Serelisk

It's weird to me that, after reading the review, SWTOR got an 8. The way it was written, showcasing many of the author's disappointments with the game, I thought it was going to have like, a 6. lol

That's because 8 just might be their favorite number. Too lazy to check though.

  Cthulhu23

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1/03/12 5:06:17 PM#19
Originally posted by moosecatlol

After reading the comments, I'm starting to get the vibe the euro gamer has a hard-on for the number 8.

 

Also I saw nothing about the sound draw radius and the clunky animations : \

 

 

Then write your own review. [Mod Edit]

 

 

  DLangley

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1/03/12 5:17:38 PM#20

Stay on topic please. Thanks.

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