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Let me first tell you that the following story very well could be bogus. I think it will be impossible to verify unless Bioware/EA makes a statement on the issue (who knows if they will). That said, I have a hunch there is something to this. And that something stinks… Edit: More information has come to light since I wrote the above. According to SWTOR's community manager: Second, a smaller number of accounts were warned or temporarily suspended for exploiting loot containers on Ilum. To be completely clear, while players may choose to travel to Ilum earlier than the recommended level (40+) and may loot containers if they can get to them, in the cases of those customers that were warned or temporarily suspended, they were systematically and repeatedly looting containers in very high numbers resulting in the game economy becoming unbalanced. So, some players were "exploiting" loot containers on Ilum and were handed suspensions, not perma-bans. The exploit seems to have been the act of camping loot container spawns. In my opinion, spawn camping for loot would generally not be considered exploitation of game systems. Most games would present either player competition, guardian MOBs, or long spawn timers to avoid the ruination of the in-game economy via loot farming. But it's a new title with plenty of kinks to work out. Here's to hoping Bioware patches in some MOBs to guard these loot containers.
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12/31/11 1:58:37 AM#2
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Lord.Bachus
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12/31/11 1:59:34 AM#3
Originally posted by Jabrony You are kidding, you made this up, right? Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) |
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No. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=109515 |
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12/31/11 2:02:41 AM#5
O.O http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns-IIn-DG-c Try to argue this please. Oh also if you quote me and it's to argue my point, if I don't respond it means I haven't been corrected by you and/or I haven't seen it. Remember I don't mind admitting I am in the wrong. Take care :D |
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12/31/11 2:02:56 AM#6
That sounds rather silly, I don't think I can believe it without some actual proofs. It is simple too lock a zone from low level players with mechanics, or to force them through a questline to get there, if BW/EA didn't want low level players there they would stop it in the game, not by banning people. And if it was true, would they ban people for being sent money or gear from other people? No, it just sounds too suspicious, no game developer can be this insane. |
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12/31/11 2:06:52 AM#7
In my experience, people that get banned usually go cry about it on the forums.
They always claim "all I did was: " followed by something really innocent sounding or say the ban was for something else they did, when in fact it was for another actual violation that they are hiding. This guy could have been banned for cussing someone out in chat, then assumed it was for this other innocent reason. People that get banned and cry about it rarely tell the truth. "all I did was open a chest! " could actually be "I exploited through walls in a level 50 flashpoint to avoid mobs and open the same chest over and over. I always take a banned players claims with a grain of salt. Then again, there have been unfair bans before, especially when EA and Origin ate involved. Shadow's Hand Guild The Secret World - Dragons Planetside 2 - Terran Republic Tera - Dragonfall Server |
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Loke, I largely agree with you but wanted to share the story. http://www.reddit.com/r/swtor/comments/nx3i4/swtor_bans_from_going_to_ilum/ http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=109515 The reason I am thinking it may be true: the story was cross posted on different sites, there are multiple users on the TOR forums claiming Bioware/EA is doing heavy editing on the forums, and no Bioware official has outright said "this did not happen". But yeah, I agree, hard to prove. Edited to reply to Dub*: However there is the e-mail(fake?) which states specific reasons. Reasons which we can likely all agree are pretty goofballs.
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12/31/11 2:09:33 AM#9
Lmao...there is no way that story is true. |
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12/31/11 2:10:12 AM#10
The responses are very interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns-IIn-DG-c Try to argue this please. Oh also if you quote me and it's to argue my point, if I don't respond it means I haven't been corrected by you and/or I haven't seen it. Remember I don't mind admitting I am in the wrong. Take care :D |
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12/31/11 2:10:48 AM#11
I'm not buying it. If it was against the ToS to travel to higher level planets while being well below the level requirements, they would have put a lock on it, not ban people for it. I think someone got banned for something legit, then made up a story to get a flame going (As is usually the case). Nice try though (Sort of). 0___x "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave". |
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12/31/11 2:11:19 AM#12
I just gained some respect for Bioware. Any player should know its an exploit to loot level 50 gear when they are a low level. If they can get to Illum they should report and bug it, not exploit it. BW did the right thing giving them a short term ban. More games should do he same and let people know any exploiting will result in severe punishment. They are lucky it was not a permanent ban. |
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12/31/11 2:11:45 AM#13
I dont know why its so hard to believe. I dont like ea(but thats just my opinion). only time will tell what is really happening.
edit: also some of those words in the email are very ambiguous |
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12/31/11 2:13:35 AM#14
I just thought of something: How about pointing us to the bit where Bioware/EA has stated it is against the rules in the ToS? 0___x "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave". |
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12/31/11 2:16:28 AM#15
People are getting really desperate to spin anything negative regarding SWTOR...just anything no matter how ridiculous. |
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12/31/11 2:16:38 AM#16
it seems fake - in fact you get told about Ilum at like level 40 or whatever in a help popup
edit: ahh, "below level 50" was meant to be "below level 40", well, dunno. |
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12/31/11 2:16:42 AM#17
Originally posted by Zippy Why? It is easy to send money and gear to your character and that would be as wrong as this. No, it sounds to me like the dude used a cheat to get the item and got banned for that, not for going to a high level zone and looting a chest. Imagine if they would ban all people who gets help by higher level characters to powerlevel? They are plenty. |
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12/31/11 2:19:49 AM#18
Looks fake, in particular that last paragraph where they mention possible further actions and permanent account closure. If there was no duration listed for the ban, the implication is that it would be a permaban, so why would possible permanent closure be mentioned? Looks like the original person that published it did a rather sloppy job of editing an official email. I am guessing that bit about "By ignoring these warnings..." was originally preceded by a number of verbal warnings about some other exploit. |
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12/31/11 2:20:30 AM#19
One of two things is going on here. 1. This is a completely made up story. No one was banned, there was no email, just someone trying to start a controversy. 2. The person was banned, but they edited the email that they received omitting the parts where it says they used some type of exploit to get to said area of the game. There is no way they actually got banned for ONLY looting a high level chest. "There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer." |
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12/31/11 2:20:36 AM#20
One of my friends was banned on Rift for botting cause he grinded in one spot for a couple of hours. Companies will ban people without 100% evidence cause there is no way to prove them wrong if they screw up. |
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