This has that same winning friendly community you all know and love from wow. No matter how good it is community is the most important thing, to be honest I really should not have even bought it when I heard the lack of commen social features it has stuff as basic as intergrated vc and guild banks. Anyway this is another one the 20 year old rude grown kids have runnined at least for me. I will be sticking to eq2 till eq next and secert world come out. If your a wow player you may love this game as its not bad, but if your a mmo player that maily loves the social side of mmos like myself save your money this will be a total waste for you. Oh I long for the days of mmos before gamecards so fewer little bastereds in them before then lol.

i havent had a bad social experiance at all. Most of the people ive met have been more then willing to help out and answer a question if they know it. 

i had the one instance where chat turned into barrens chat in a way with some of the chuck norris crap but other then that the community so far has been quite pleasant when ive had to deal with them

Im not gonna say that others haven had a bad experiance with community i personally have not hough. in wow usually if u aska  questiong u get told go away noob or the delibratley give u bad info to make u get lost.

i havent had that happen once in tor yet.

I try to find a mature guild in these times and turn general chat off. Tis the only way.

May the force be with you.

i also have all chat channels off. there is no reason at all to interact with anyone in this game.

my friend and i play and use our companions to do all heroic quests and all the dungeons. we literally dont need to ever talk to anyone ever.

so basically im going to paying 15 a month for a single player game. thats why we are trying to get through all the class stories before the free month is up so we dont have to pay a sub for a spg

Originally posted by gekkothegrey

I will be sticking to eq2 till eq next and secert world come out.

Ok.  Take care now.

their fanboys poked at the wow fanboys and started something they couldn't handle. Now the WoW fanboys are crushing you.

Shouldn't have started all those "wow-killer" topics...now WoW is THE killer.

I know this seems like a troll post, but reality is that this is what's happening. It's a troll war in itself and...well only a troll post can cover a troll war. An mmo that's just getting released should not have hundreds of "swtor vs wow" reviews while in beta and should not tell the world why its the one that will kill existing mmo's.

WoW players are generally a little bored of WoW themselves. Give them some juiciy drama like a WOW vs SWTOR and you'll see things that'd concern you about the future of mankind.

remember "We're not in azeroth anymore" ? that is what you absolutely do NOT want to do. You'll die if you do. Guaranteed.

edit: you want meaningful sandbox unscripted player-generated world pvp? this is it. WoW vs SWTOR. Hundreds of millions of dollars on the line. Millions of players affected. This is true pvp. Not in-game since both games are instanced themeparks...on the forums. Here we fight a pvp game that the games cant provide us with. and for some it' a very fun and free game.

I closed my chat window after the first 3 hours of gameplay. ...was the most awesome part of the game up to this point.

I understand your guys point totally I could turn off all chat channels. However for me I play mmos for a social experience, and with no good gen chat, no in game guild vc or grp vc so it will be used in pugs I just do not see myself keep playing after first month. Thats just me though everyone likes different stuff, and if this was not billed as a mmo it would be great game, but its an mmo so for me its just not the one.

Originally posted by gekkothegrey

This has that same winning friendly community you all know and love from wow. No matter how good it is community is the most important thing, to be honest I really should not have even bought it when I heard the lack of commen social features it has stuff as basic as intergrated vc and guild banks. Anyway this is another one the 20 year old rude grown kids have runnined at least for me. I will be sticking to eq2 till eq next and secert world come out. If your a wow player you may love this game as its not bad, but if your a mmo player that maily loves the social side of mmos like myself save your money this will be a total waste for you. Oh I long for the days of mmos before gamecards so fewer little bastereds in them before then lol.

Stop blaming WoW.  The maturity of players has nothing to do with one specific video game.  It has to do with growing up in a generation where parents don't pay attention to their kids and kids spend so much time online being anonymous asshats because there are no reprocusions.

You will not escape from these "kids" because they are everywhere.  You only notice them more in game with larger populations.  They are proportionally the same.  Games with 100,000 players may only have 10 or so vocal asshats.  In a game with 1,000,000 you end up with 100.  The effect is exponential because the larger the population the more likely it is that their will be asshats in the same area in which to feed off eachother.  Which is why the capital cities or major hubs in many games are filled with trolls in the chat channels.  If there are only 10, odds that some of them will be in the same place at the same time is less likely than if you have 100.

So don't blame WoW because kids are bad.  Blame their parents and a society that promotes anonymous asshats.

I never got why the general chat antics in MMORPGs really upset so many people.

it used to be all Chuck Norris jokes, now it's all "I took an arrow in the knee" jokes.  Personally, I think they are funny sometimes, many are dumb yeah, but general chat is like having a joke reel streaming down the page while I'm playing.

Originally posted by Sepulcher

Stop blaming WoW.

We used to blame "b.net kiddies".  Before that, I think it was Counterstrike players.

Originally posted by gekkothegrey

I understand your guys point totally I could turn off all chat channels. However for me I play mmos for a social experience, and with no good gen chat, no in game guild vc or grp vc so it will be used in pugs I just do not see myself keep playing after first month. Thats just me though everyone likes different stuff, and if this was not billed as a mmo it would be great game, but its an mmo so for me its just not the one.

Play on an RP server.  asshat ratio is far better.  

Originally posted by Sepulcher

Originally posted by gekkothegrey

This has that same winning friendly community you all know and love from wow. No matter how good it is community is the most important thing, to be honest I really should not have even bought it when I heard the lack of commen social features it has stuff as basic as intergrated vc and guild banks. Anyway this is another one the 20 year old rude grown kids have runnined at least for me. I will be sticking to eq2 till eq next and secert world come out. If your a wow player you may love this game as its not bad, but if your a mmo player that maily loves the social side of mmos like myself save your money this will be a total waste for you. Oh I long for the days of mmos before gamecards so fewer little bastereds in them before then lol.

Stop blaming WoW.  The maturity of players has nothing to do with one specific video game.  It has to do with growing up in a generation where parents don't pay attention to their kids and kids spend so much time online being anonymous asshats because there are no reprocusions.

You will not escape from these "kids" because they are everywhere.  You only notice them more in game with larger populations.  They are proportionally the same.  Games with 100,000 players may only have 10 or so vocal asshats.  In a game with 1,000,000 you end up with 100.  The effect is exponential because the larger the population the more likely it is that their will be asshats in the same area in which to feed off eachother.  Which is why the capital cities or major hubs in many games are filled with trolls in the chat channels.  If there are only 10, odds that some of them will be in the same place at the same time is less likely than if you have 100.

So don't blame WoW because kids are bad.  Blame their parents and a society that promotes anonymous asshats.

I do blame parents, but good devs can create in game features to make communitys work together more. IE mentor systems, guild voice chats, guild rewards.

Originally posted by Creslin321

I never got why the general chat antics in MMORPGs really upset so many people.

it used to be all Chuck Norris jokes, now it's all "I took an arrow in the knee" jokes.  Personally, I think they are funny sometimes, many are dumb yeah, but general chat is like having a joke reel streaming down the page while I'm playing.

Love Chuck jokes. Jokes are not really what I am speaking of. PS: What happens when you kick Chuck Norris in the ballz? Not a damn thing as steel does not break!

hehe briliant!!!, you made me laugh in rl

just stick to rp server should be to your liking!(to each its own)

Originally posted by gekkothegrey

This has that same winning friendly community you all know and love from wow. No matter how good it is community is the most important thing, to be honest I really should not have even bought it when I heard the lack of commen social features it has stuff as basic as intergrated vc and guild banks. Anyway this is another one the 20 year old rude grown kids have runnined at least for me. I will be sticking to eq2 till eq next and secert world come out. If your a wow player you may love this game as its not bad, but if your a mmo player that maily loves the social side of mmos like myself save your money this will be a total waste for you. Oh I long for the days of mmos before gamecards so fewer little bastereds in them before then lol.

Try a better server then and to my shock i've yet to met even one kid on mine so far.

I did try an RP server did not see hugh difference. Anyone want to suggest a good server?

I have seen only one so far on my server. Popped into a PvP match at level 12 and started barking orders, then got all upset when the Valor level 30-35 people corrected his very bad directions. He spent the rest of the match with lips flappin obsenities until the rest of us had him on our ignore lists. After that it has been rather peaceful.

Originally posted by gekkothegrey

Originally posted by Creslin321

I never got why the general chat antics in MMORPGs really upset so many people.

it used to be all Chuck Norris jokes, now it's all "I took an arrow in the knee" jokes.  Personally, I think they are funny sometimes, many are dumb yeah, but general chat is like having a joke reel streaming down the page while I'm playing.

Love Chuck jokes. Jokes are not really what I am speaking of. PS: What happens when you kick Chuck Norris in the ballz? Not a damn thing as steel does not break!

 LOL :).  My favorite new "general chat" joke was:

You got adventure problems I feel bad for you son.  I dodged 99 arrows but my knee took one!