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  Metentso

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12/23/11 3:37:28 PM#21

I have noticed that heterosexual men have barely spent any time with another guy, and they are saying how they don't like sex with other guys, as if they are experts. Why don't they spend a month living with another guy, living the experience, and then they can really know if they like it or not.

  Puremallace

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12/23/11 3:38:05 PM#22

I do not need to have a sub to know that from my BETA experience I would be more pissed that simple features were omitted in a game that cost 150+ to make. I am not fighting those battlesover again with a dev to thick headed to add even a option to pick which war front I want to queue for.

 

hmmz server lag to hard to deal with just separate the player base and instance the entire damn game. Lets create pvp servers with zero to no incentive to actually pvp. I'll wait until 50% of the population leaves and the game is on sale before even bothering to play it.

 

Bioware did perfect in some areas and just made extremely lazy decisions in other areas. I do not need to play to also realize the end game is basically WoW.

  Vhaln

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12/23/11 3:39:11 PM#23
Originally posted by i_own_u
Originally posted by Perramas

I like the game and I will be playing for a while. Having said that if you do not like something why would you spends days doing it?

I completly understand that, but it just seems odd that they aren't even giving an effort into trying to like the game. It is almost like their mind is already made up before they even start playing it.

 

During the beta weekend, I actually quit and uninstalled when it was only half over.  Felt like I'd made up my mind, before I even left Korriban.  I pushed on until I got to the second planet, but when that didn't change my mind, I was done.  This was an awful game, and I wouldn't be wasting a dime on it.

 

..but I kept reading how great it was, I read about the million preorders, I read how much it opens up, etc, etc.

 

It's only $70, right?  (wait, $70?!  gah, ok, ok, still..)  So, not wanting to miss out, I bought it.  Now, after playing a few hours a day, from the 17th onward, I've racked up a decent amount of playtime.  I've made it as far as Tatooine... and I still think it sucks.  I mean, it's not torture to play, I'm not a masochist.  It passes the time, but I've already canceled.  I just can't see it holding my attention for more than another week or two, at most.   and even that, only because there's nothing else I want to play, right now.

 

Feel like I'm the crazy one, for trying so hard to like this, though.  Who keeps playing a game that isn't fun within the first hour?  I don't blame anyone who gives up on a game that quickly.

 

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  sanosukex

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12/23/11 3:40:24 PM#24
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by MindTrigger

I'm wondering if it somehow makes you guys feel better to put up straw men and knock them down.  Does it make you feel better to discredit people who don't like the game?  I'm not even sure why you care so much.  Your own enjoyment of it should be validation enough for your ego.

I think these types of posters (that were being discussed) discredit themselves. If I see a statement to the effect of I played for an hour, the game is horrible, I have a hard time taking any critique made seriously. An hour is barely enough time to pass the tutorial areas of most MMO's.

agreed but many people have been critical and have been playing through beta so some could have been playing for months now. I feel I put enough time into the game by now to say I enjoy the game enough to play for a few months BUT i still feel unless they take some pretty big measures in certain departments like PVP they are going to lose a ton of subscribers in the coming months.. I hope they do put out the content patches fast and the fixes many people want like customizable UI and high res textures and some others but what bothers me is when people bring up stuff like that and get flamed because they have a negative opinion about the game.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html

  waynejr2

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Joined: 4/12/11
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12/23/11 3:42:02 PM#25
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Perramas

I like the game and I will be playing for a while. Having said that if you do not like something why would you spends days doing it?

While I agree, problem is half of those people will hit the forums pretending to be experts on the game, without acknowledging they really don't know much aside from the first few hours of it they saw.

The ones I find annoying today are those who want sandbox games who are bashing this game.  Why should they like it when it's not what they like?  It's just silly.

  teakbois

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12/23/11 3:49:04 PM#26
Originally posted by sanosukex

agreed but many people have been critical and have been playing through beta so some could have been playing for months now. I feel I put enough time into the game by now to say I enjoy the game enough to play for a few months BUT i still feel unless they take some pretty big measures in certain departments like PVP they are going to lose a ton of subscribers in the coming months.. I hope they do put out the content patches fast and the fixes many people want like customizable UI and high res textures and some others but what bothers me is when people bring up stuff like that and get flamed because they have a negative opinion about the game.

There are a lot of posters here that just troll endlessly, and they latch on to things like this because they cant really say much about the actual content of the game, because its fine.   The way I see it, is if lack of customizable UI is the biggest thing wrong with your game, you have a very good game on your hands.

 

  EverSkelly

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12/23/11 3:49:07 PM#27

i have noticed something as well. Fanboys just can't enjoy their game, if someone on the forums dislike it. What does it matter to you.. just play it, enjoy it.

It seems most of you, who praise the game, write countless positive reviews and create new and new posts about how awesome swtor is or how much subs it has, you don't even play it. You sit here on forums and whine at people who dislike the game. Day after day, post after post.

 

You'd think, fanboy's main goal would be to have fun in their beloved game. But now it looks like your main goal is to attack people who don't like swtor. Then i guess the game isn't fun after all? It's like you are trying to prove to yourself it actually is.

 

Worst thing is, i can't seem to find any interesting discussions on mmorpg.com lately, because 99% of it is swtor.

  Distopia

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12/23/11 3:51:50 PM#28
Originally posted by sanosukex
Originally posted by Distopia

I think these types of posters (that were being discussed) discredit themselves. If I see a statement to the effect of I played for an hour, the game is horrible, I have a hard time taking any critique made seriously. An hour is barely enough time to pass the tutorial areas of most MMO's.

agreed but many people have been critical and have been playing through beta so some could have been playing for months now. I feel I put enough time into the game by now to say I enjoy the game enough to play for a few months BUT i still feel unless they take some pretty big measures in certain departments like PVP they are going to lose a ton of subscribers in the coming months.. I hope they do put out the content patches fast and the fixes many people want like customizable UI and high res textures and some others but what bothers me is when people bring up stuff like that and get flamed because they have a negative opinion about the game.

Sure I'm not saying everyone who posts negatively only played for an hour, that would imply the game should be a pefect fit for everyone. It certainly isn't, and yes there's a lot of work to be done on Biowares end.

That bothers me as well, I reported a number of posts yesterday in the CC complaint threads, all were fans. I don't care what side of the fence a poster is on when they're namecalling or throwing a discussion off topic with ad hominem attacks they deserve to be reported. Even considering I felt those CC complaints were unwarranted.

I'm all about healthy discussion postive or negative, it doesn't matter to me as long as those discussing it have solid points I'll listen to what they have to say.

 

 

For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  Loekii

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12/23/11 3:53:05 PM#29
Originally posted by stealthbr
Oh, as mature people, we accept that not everyone likes the same things. The problem comes when certain individuals ridicule our positive perspectives in an attempt to make their negative perspectives the only possible and rational assessment. That, my friend, is simply sad.

Isn't this being hypocritical? 

 

You have basically just made the same type of comment, you are claiming others do to you.

  Remains

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Joined: 2/21/09
Posts: 373

12/23/11 3:54:18 PM#30
Originally posted by i_own_u

I have noticed that the people who claim that SWTOR is either a bad game, or are quitting have only played a maximum of one day playing time.

What is this due too? Impatience? Are they too spoiled with WoW?

Is there something that I am missing here?

 

I am just curious, as I reached 50 yesterday and will be playing the game after the free month.

Wow... thats some seriously broad and bizarre generalisation right there. You really should take some time reading through what you type before posting it.

Unless of course, you really meant to take a random "fact" out of thin air and use it to slander and miscredit everyone that disagrees with your opinion? In that case, all is well i guess.

  sanosukex

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12/23/11 3:54:24 PM#31
Originally posted by Vhaln

 

Feel like I'm the crazy one, for trying so hard to like this, though.  Who keeps playing a game that isn't fun within the first hour?  I don't blame anyone who gives up on a game that quickly.

 

know what you mean I couldn't even get an hour into MW3 I loved the first one never played the second one and got the third but its just like playing the first one with couple new weapons and differn't maps... sense of deja vu you get from swtor to a MMO vet is pretty annoying. But I hate to say if something else was out I haven't already played to death I probably wouldn't keep putting hours into this one.. I honestly enjoyed rift for the first 5 months more than I enjoyed my time here. Not saying I'm not having some fun but in rift I was playing like when I played everquest the first time just nonstop for days.. I honestly haven't played more than a few hours the last couple few days and haven't really thought about the game at all. Where is in rift all I could think about was what soul combo do I want to try next, but after 7 months of rift I'm done with that one. WoW haven't played since BC but don't really have any desire to try it again.

 

I'll admit I'm pretty addicted to MMOs but just not finding this one hooking me like others in the past which really bugs me cause Il ove all of biowares games for the most part and love star wars I mean how could you loose right? I don't know guess I'm burt out of these types after a decade of playing them.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html

  stealthbr

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12/23/11 3:57:03 PM#32
The problem, Vhaln, is when you and posters such as Teala find it impossible for someone to view a game differently than from how you view it. You need to respect other people's opinions if you are to be viewed as credible and respectful posters. Saying things such as "Oh, the game only got that rating because the reviewers are fanboys or because they were payed by EA." is absolutely ridiculous and unnecessary.
  Puremallace

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12/23/11 4:02:09 PM#33
Originally posted by stealthbr
The problem, Vhaln, is when you and posters such as Teala find it impossible for someone to view a game differently than from how you view it. You need to respect other people's opinions if you are to be viewed as credible and respectful posters. Saying things such as "Oh, the game only got that rating because the reviewers are fanboys or because they were payed by EA." is absolutely ridiculous and unnecessary.

Teala just hates themeparks period. When she could not find any good critiisms off Rift she said the squirrel animations were not realistic enough.

 

She does have a few good points when it comes to TOR. Right now the rage over pvp is building up on the forums and it is making for some quality entertainment.

  Vhaln

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12/23/11 4:03:11 PM#34
Originally posted by stealthbr
The problem, Vhaln, is when you and posters such as Teala find it impossible for someone to view a game differently than from how you view it. You need to respect other people's opinions if you are to be viewed as credible and respectful posters. Saying things such as "Oh, the game only got that rating because the reviewers are fanboys or because they were payed by EA." is absolutely ridiculous and unnecessary.

 

I know, sometimes I get carried away, and I apologize.  Obviously, some people are having a lot of fun with TOR, and I'd be a complete asshole to want to take that away from them.  It's a game, and if you're enjoying it, that is the important thing.

 

@Sanusukex I was totally hooked by Rift for a while, too.  My biggest gripe with that game was that they shot themselves in the foot, longevity wise.  Felt like they had a great game in some ways, but then made some ridiculously bad design decisions, as far as pacing, endgame, and replayability.

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  sanosukex

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12/23/11 4:09:03 PM#35
Originally posted by stealthbr
The problem, Vhaln, is when you and posters such as Teala find it impossible for someone to view a game differently than from how you view it. You need to respect other people's opinions if you are to be viewed as credible and respectful posters. Saying things such as "Oh, the game only got that rating because the reviewers are fanboys or because they were payed by EA." is absolutely ridiculous and unnecessary.

ill agree some people get carried away but when game sites give warhammer online similar scores to games like rift or even this game how can you honestly believe they are not in some way afraid to be critical in there reviews because of the advertisers who pay for there websites

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html

  stealthbr

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12/23/11 4:24:40 PM#36
You seem to forget that one magazIne usually has several reviewers with differing ideas. Perhaps the guy that ed Warhammer was an extreme PvP junkie and thought the game was amazing regardless of how satisfactory the PvE may be. Also, each person has their own set of standards and those standards are constantly shifting.
  sanosukex

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12/23/11 4:27:09 PM#37
Originally posted by stealthbr
You seem to forget that one magazIne usually has several reviewers with differing ideas. Perhaps the guy that ed Warhammer was an extreme PvP junkie and thought the game was amazing regardless of how satisfactory the PvE may be. Also, each person has their own set of standards and those standards are constantly shifting.

if thats the case then that is a horribly jaded way to review an MMO for a large gaming site.. either way warhammer got universally good scores from many big review sites even IGN gave it a 90 which i suspect will be close to what they give swtor

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html

  Arakazi

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12/23/11 4:46:29 PM#38

It's all about opinions. While we can read reviews and frorum posts to see if a game is worth playing or not, the only opinion that matters at the end of the day is your own, I hated games that have scored highly and liked games that a lot of people just hated. Doesn't bother me in the slightest that people don't like Europa Universalis and think it's pretentious garbage. I enjoy it and thats all that matters to me. So some of you think that SWTOR is trash, fine. Move onto the next game and don't waste another minute on it. You like it? Great thats money well spent for you. Thinking of trying it? Do the smart thing and wait for the free trial and make up your own mind and don't worry about the people trying to shove their opinions down your throat,

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  Atlan99

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12/23/11 4:56:01 PM#39
Originally posted by sanosukex
Originally posted by stealthbr
You seem to forget that one magazIne usually has several reviewers with differing ideas. Perhaps the guy that ed Warhammer was an extreme PvP junkie and thought the game was amazing regardless of how satisfactory the PvE may be. Also, each person has their own set of standards and those standards are constantly shifting.

if thats the case then that is a horribly jaded way to review an MMO for a large gaming site.. either way warhammer got universally good scores from many big review sites even IGN gave it a 90 which i suspect will be close to what they give swtor

Probably because if you were to review Warhammer you might rate it high. I might do the same. If i had just played till level 20 or so. PvP was still fun and you still weren't at end game to know that there was nothing for PvE.

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12/23/11 4:58:08 PM#40
Originally posted by Atlan99
Originally posted by sanosukex
Originally posted by stealthbr
You seem to forget that one magazIne usually has several reviewers with differing ideas. Perhaps the guy that ed Warhammer was an extreme PvP junkie and thought the game was amazing regardless of how satisfactory the PvE may be. Also, each person has their own set of standards and those standards are constantly shifting.

if thats the case then that is a horribly jaded way to review an MMO for a large gaming site.. either way warhammer got universally good scores from many big review sites even IGN gave it a 90 which i suspect will be close to what they give swtor

Probably because if you were to review Warhammer you might rate it high. I might do the same. If i had just played till level 20 or so. PvP was still fun and you still weren't at end game to know that there was nothing for PvE.

i did play warhammer at launch and got bored after a week so no I would't of given it a good review

but that is a point many people are trying to make for this game its the type that is probably going to be fun for a month or two but after that why stay? its just all to similar.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html

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