Originally posted by adiktus

It's just so funny how people regard their own opinions as the "right and most superior" opinion of all. Anyone with a contrary opinion is a fool.

Why can't just people accept that some people like some games, while some people don't. If you don't like it, then don't play it. If you don't agree with the review, then shut up and read another article. Or better yet, make your own review and show us how "good" you are.

Sure!! But if you are writing an editorial review for a commercail site, I personally feel you have a duty of care to your readers. It's not a question of whether you enjoy the game it is a question of accurately representing it.

Originally posted by chilliz

Originally posted by nadrian3k

I guess u guys ran out of things to right about....

That game will never be a big hit...it could very well have a score of over 9000 ...

I guess you also forgot how to spell "WRITE".  Dont worry, we all no the american education system is going to pot.

 

"we all no the american education..."

1. How better to fail at pointing out someones mistake then to make the same mistake yourself? it's "we all KNOW"

2. Who ever said i was american? i am not actually and i am not from a native english speaking country....what's your point? or even better how exactly did your post counter my post which was related to the topic at hand?

Are u that self-centered as to think americans are the only ones posting on these forums? How is your geography? does it extend past the borders of your country? does it have preety colors?

in all fairness, I have to add something to defend this article.

this version of Hellgate is based on the Korean Hanbit version which has been quite successful in South Korea. When the international version was shut down, Hanbit spent years updating and developing the client, so it's really quite polished now!

It's been going strong for 4 years now and though not as popular as Vindictus or C9, it still has a stable playerbase in South Korea. 

Also, T3fun will probably keep this game going until the playerbase gets too low. This is what happened with T3fun's version of Aika. They were doing great, until a SEA version of Aika was released in Singapore and all of the asian players left, leaving T3fun with a few odd European players that were not enough to keep the game going. So they had to shut it down and focused their energy on Hellgate.

As for this being f2p, it's not really, it's a mandatory freemium model, meaning that just like in LOTRO, you HAVE to buy expansion packs to continue. At the moment, you have to pay something like 7$ to continue past act 2, but after that payments are optional.

Lalartu:

Hellgates client has not been updated, the same bugs that were present in Flagships release are still in Hanbisofts.

This is the North American server version.

Once again i will state that at no point do Hanbisoft ask you for any money to buy extra content, the Hellgate game and ALL the expansion are Free To Play.

If you play the game then you would know this, all items can be purchased with in game currency including the Act3 and Toyko expansion.

"When originally asked me to review Hellgate"

Please edit your work, there should be no 'me' in that sentance.

Both the review and the critque by posters did give me a good feel for the game, so job done.

Originally posted by lalartu

in all fairness, I have to add something to defend this article.

 

this version of Hellgate is based on the Korean Hanbit version which has been quite successful in South Korea. When the international version was shut down, Hanbit spent years updating and developing the client, so it's really quite polished now!

It's been going strong for 4 years now and though not as popular as Vindictus or C9, it still has a stable playerbase in South Korea. 

Also, T3fun will probably keep this game going until the playerbase gets too low. This is what happened with T3fun's version of Aika. They were doing great, until a SEA version of Aika was released in Singapore and all of the asian players left, leaving T3fun with a few odd European players that were not enough to keep the game going. So they had to shut it down and focused their energy on Hellgate.

 

As for this being f2p, it's not really, it's a mandatory freemium model, meaning that just like in LOTRO, you HAVE to buy expansion packs to continue. At the moment, you have to pay something like 7$ to continue past act 2, but after that payments are optional.

If Hanbit spent so much time refining the client, how come the bugs from the original game are still there.  And there are not a just a few of them?  Giving kudos to Hanbit for not fixing known bugs, especially the grouping ones is misguided.

Hanbit has done very little with this game beyond taking the original code and perhaps adding some features that were close to being added at shutdown.

Hellgate Global, in this writer’s eyes, is a great value… at first.  It runs on a Freemium model with an item mall.  The item mall has both gear and items, including tickets to get you into the new zones.  Without paying you cannot make it past act 2 (there are five acts plus additional content)

You do relize you can buy act tickets from other players for ingame currancy.

Originally posted by gagaliya

i wish mmorpg.com would stop writing useless fluff articles like this just to fill space.  The single biggest problem that caused hellgate london to fail originally was it's instability and bug ridden release to the point of unplayable. 

1) How stable is the game now exactly? other than a one liner "it's more polished",   does the game still crash from zone to zone?  do you still get stuck in the doors? lag? network stable?

2) What is the price structure now?  How much exactly do you have to pay after act 2,  what is offered in item mall are they game changing items or just visual?

 

 

It's F2P so who cares?  Every video had non stop gold spam in the chat box. There's your community.

8/10?

Sure.

Originally posted by WhiteLantern

Originally posted by chilliz

Originally posted by nadrian3k

I guess u guys ran out of things to right about....

That game will never be a big hit...it could very well have a score of over 9000 ...

 

I guess you also forgot how to spell "WRITE".  Dont worry, we all no the american education system is going to pot.

I see what you did their.

So did you intentionally misspell "there" for his benefit?

Hm. After buying this game not long after it's release, I gave up on it due to technical difficulties (lag,disconnects, slow loading, overly repetitive level layouts) and not having a good enough comp to run it well. Years later with a different computer I installed it and gave it another try after patching, and boy am I impressed and having a blast with it!

It's not Crysis level graphics, obviously, but it is very detailed and does have certain armors, certain weapons, certain monsters and areas that really look great! IMHO, the gameplay is fantastic as an ARPG/FPS hybrid, really satisfying action watching monsters explode and bloody flying chunks across the screen, getting ambushed, having to figure out how to tackle a room overflowing with bad guys. The controls are solid, the UI fine, the monster AI quite clever at times, certain enemies hiding behind obstacles, circling around you, strafing, teleporting, stealthing, and some of the best death cries of any game.

The weapons are quite brilliant, so many different kinds and uses, loading them up with mod items, augmenting them, levelling them up, trying different ones for  different enemies and situations.

The skill trees are well thought out and offer lots of great choices.

There's even a story and plot that are interesting.

At the end of the day though, it makes me so sad that Flagship Studios ran out of money, didn't have another year, or 6 months even to polish the game up, have a closed or open beta, work out all the bugs and glitches, and come to the realization that an MMO subscription based pricing system doesn't work for a regular game without all the MMO features such as an open, perpetual world. This game could have been huge instead of a legendary failure. It could have had big content updates, expansions, new characters, new areas, maybe even a sequel, fighting the demon invasion in other worlds, and become a franchise like the Diablo series. I wish I could go back in time with 10 million dollars to give them and have it all turn out different.

I'm extremely skeptical about this new effort by Redbana/Hanbitsoft. I tried downloading it just to see and the download crashed my computer before completing. I tend to think of them as the room full of monkeys with typewriters, give them 1,000 years and they might come up with Shakespear.

I just viewed some screen shots from their site and the graphics in them looked like pure crap .. So, before I waste 5 precious gigs of bandwidth, did they like dump down the graphics and textures or something??