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  Rednecksith

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12/21/11 11:19:24 AM#21

Back in the day, I might have agreed with the scores given. But now... sorry, no. There have been other games which do the whole shooter/ARPG thing much better since Hellgate's initial release. I did enjoy the game in its initial form quite a bit, until Roper Flagshipped all the fans & employees by selling out to the Koreans. Such a pity.

BTW Mr. Roper, if you should happen to read this by some miracle, I haven't forgotten about the $100 refund you owe me and every other lifetime subscriber you ripped off. Pray we never meet on the street.

  monstermmo

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12/21/11 11:39:54 AM#22

I think this game is super freakin awesome. Love it.


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  fenistil

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12/21/11 12:16:48 PM#23

It is not great game. Maybe 4/10 deffo NOT 8/10...


  Koddo

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12/21/11 12:46:35 PM#24

There are gamebreaking bugs with this game that t3fun/hanbitsoft aren't even concerned about fixing. There is a bug with the ragdoll physics (some of us believe it to be the cause) that will drop your fps to less than 1 fps until the culprit(s) fade. Still plenty of lag and bugs running around, and t3fun is only really concerned about putting new items in the mall. When they pulled the "bait and switch" with the revenue model, I knew they weren't a good company and all their intention for this game was a cash grab. I mean, stating the game is completely f2p, then 2 days before release say that only up to the end of act2 (very early in the game) is completely free then you have to pay to access the rest of the game is shady in my book. That is more of an unlimited free trial than f2p. Personally, while it's being run by this company, I would suggest not even giving it a try. It's worse off now IMO than it was before. If you want to play it, I say get the flagship version and play the single player. At least that way there are some mods out to enhance your gameplay instead of hinder it.





 

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  pompey606

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12/21/11 1:49:58 PM#25

After seeing the Giantbomb.com intern footage of HG I cannot believe this article - video for reference - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pyf_t7ZYjo&feature=plcp&context=C39c29cfUDOEgsToPDskLPNfrc_Tfg2duU-sP0cMmy


  Cursedsei

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12/21/11 1:51:12 PM#26

Just saying but...

8/10 sounds far too kind, specially with a "F2P" game that charges you for content, specially for more than half of the game's content. It sounds more like a desperate attempt to "normalize" the cashflow from a F2P title than it does a favor to the players. Hence why you NEVER see a true F2P game doing it.

 

At least, the dozens upon dozens of F2P titles that I've gone through never did such a thing. And before anyone brings it up, no. Dungeons and Dragons Online, Lord of the Rings Online, and other Abrupt F2P titles don't count.

  marinrider

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12/21/11 2:13:45 PM#27
Originally posted by gagaliya

i wish mmorpg.com would stop writing useless fluff articles like this just to fill space.  The single biggest problem that caused hellgate london to fail originally was it's instability and bug ridden release to the point of unplayable. 

1) How stable is the game now exactly? other than a one liner "it's more polished",   does the game still crash from zone to zone?  do you still get stuck in the doors? lag? network stable?

2) What is the price structure now?  How much exactly do you have to pay after act 2,  what is offered in item mall are they game changing items or just visual?

 

I cant comment on much of the extra stuff in the cash shop, but by the time I had to "pay" for the new content, I had enough in game cash to buy it from another player in the auction house. 

  AmazingAvery

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12/21/11 2:48:36 PM#28

I find it amusing that the video posted in the review has gold spam in it which if posted on the forums would be removed...


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  winter

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12/21/11 3:07:30 PM#29

Originally posted by chilliz




Originally posted by nadrian3k



I guess u guys ran out of things to right about....








That game will never be a big hit...it could very well have a score of over 9000 ...











 




I guess you also forgot how to spell "WRITE".  Dont worry, we all no the american education system is going to pot.





 


 LOL as the pot calls the kettle black. Perhaps you should practice how to spell know?


  niceguy3978

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12/21/11 4:25:15 PM#30

Originally posted by winter




Originally posted by chilliz











Originally posted by nadrian3k








I guess u guys ran out of things to right about....
















That game will never be a big hit...it could very well have a score of over 9000 ...























 








I guess you also forgot how to spell "WRITE".  Dont worry, we all no the american education system is going to pot.











 




 LOL as the pot calls the kettle black. Perhaps you should practice how to spell know?





 


They also don't teach sarcasm in American schools.  Though they do teach mocking, so I'm not sure why it wasn't more clear what he was doing there.


  gaeanprayer

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12/21/11 4:33:33 PM#31

Way, waaaay too kind on the score there. Also, one of the cons is the dated visuals and yet aesthetics gets a 9? When you lack a graphic score, it gets lumped in with aesthetics since that is indeed part of the package. You can't give a high score to something then say it's one of its faults.


And 6 on value is...mmm....well, I won't even touch that. If I have to pay out my bum to play the game, it doesn't even get a mediocre on the "value" level. It would have been cheaper to keep it p2p, except no one found the game good enough to pay monthly for. And the solution for that, somehow, became to make it even more expensive to play through the item mall.


Brilliance.


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  Ozmodan

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12/21/11 5:24:30 PM#32

Oh come on, this game has zero replayability.  Complete waste of time if you ask me.  Anyone thinking they captured even an inkling of the magic of Diablo would be soon be disallusioned with it.

Using the word "Great" when referring to this game immediately makes the reviewer look foolish.

  angus858

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12/21/11 5:43:59 PM#33

All ratings are subjective.  I happen to agree with the review.  I should mention that I enjoyed the original versional as well.  Most of the updates are real improvements.  Unfortunately they removed the permadeath option which I enjoyed the first time around.


The cash shop price for unlocking the restricted content (act 2 or 3, don't remember which) was a whole four dollars last I checked.  I can't comment on the price of anything else because I never felt the need to buy anything else (although you will need to spend at least ten dollars just because that is the minimum for a purchase).


  Netspook

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12/21/11 6:04:42 PM#34
Originally posted by nezbel

I have a really hard time taking this review seriously, the scores just seem bloated and it feels like they're contridictions in the review. The only score that feels honest is the Value.  I mean, just look at the Innovation review:


Frankly, Hellgate Global doesn’t do anything new.  The majority of mechanics aren’t new.  The idea of a futuristic demon world is definitely not common but is a new spin on an old idea.  The game is doesn’t deviate too far from other hack and slash MMORPGs that we have come to expect from a large portion of the genre.  Its biggest innovation is trying to blend the shooter with Diablo mechanics, and other games have done that better since.


And yet it is scored a 7.

 

Pretty much sums up my thoughts when reading this.... eh... "review".  It's getting harder and harder to take anything from the staff writers seriously. Been a loot of silly articles in the news section over the last year too, written by clueless authors that appearently barely knew the name of the game they talked about.

Mmmorpg.com, hire professionals, not cusins, sons, daughters, whatever...

  Classicstar

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12/21/11 6:16:59 PM#35

It stays at 6/10 for me like value i won't use item shop so its way to limited so uninstalled it after a few days. I never had the feeling it was a mmo not back in 2007 and not now. Its just a diablo hack and slash nothing more. Game is also downgraded from DX10 back to DX9 LOL.

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  adiktus

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12/21/11 6:38:04 PM#36

It's just so funny how people regard their own opinions as the "right and most superior" opinion of all. Anyone with a contrary opinion is a fool.


Why can't just people accept that some people like some games, while some people don't. If you don't like it, then don't play it. If you don't agree with the review, then shut up and read another article. Or better yet, make your own review and show us how "good" you are.


  sibs4455

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Posts: 355

12/21/11 6:44:53 PM#37

When the op mentioned that they were a WoW veteran i had to pick myself up off the floor from laughing, for they must be a formidable gamer to quote thenselves so.

Anyway, i will list some points about Hellgate Global that the op (kindly) missed out.

 

Graphics:

Graphics are/look like crap for they reverted to using dx9 instead of dx10 for online stability reasons. If you close one eye and max all details then it is not to bad.

4/10

..

Grouping:

Op mentions the ability to form a group now, but this feature was in from the original release, theres still a max number of 6 in a group.

Playing with others can be a pain for you will find numerous bugs in group content eg 1fps bug, loading screen bugs. If any group can stay together for any ammount of time without a bug happening then they are very lucky.

3/10

..

PVP:

PAY 2 WIN games are never really fun to play pvp in.

1/10

..

Content:

New content has been added, Weldone!. Extra zones / bigger maps / more baddies / bosses .. pls keep the extra content coming.

6/10

..

Free to Play:

Yes this game is free to play, Hanbitsoft does'nt ask you to part with any money at all. OP stated that you need real money for the act3 ticket but this is wrong, you just buy it from the market place, there are always players that will spend real money on these games and they buy the items everyone needs then sell then for in game currency.

If you want to try this game then now is the best time to do it, for you get 7million in game gold and 1000 nanoshards (crafting item) for free when you level to 45.

I have all content open on my account and i am Free2Play.

As f2p games go then Hellgate is not bad at all.

6/10

..  

 

Bugs:

All the bugs that were in the original release are still there.

Loss of Frames  (for no apparent reason your fps will drop to 1 for a short time)

Loading Screen bug .. your game will hang when you try to zone to a new map, only way out of this is to alt del out of game and close it down.

Server side lag .. Yep the curse of all online games, but Hellgate suffers more than others .

To many to list.

..

Overall:

I still play Hellgate now and again for i do like Action mmos.

Hanbitsoft needs to sort out the worst of the game breaking bugs to really have a chance at getting a few more players to play.

Constant stopping to dismantle items makes for frustrating play.

Hanbitsoft needs to tell the community of there game update plans.

Loads more things can be added but others can add their input too.

..

I would give the game a 5/10

..

 

  kashiegamer

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12/21/11 7:28:50 PM#38

Wow. A review of my current game.


 


Hellgate is good for ARPG-loving people (like me), and currently it is the only MMO-ARPG around. Fans of other games may not understand us ARPG players, and why we are addicted to it. It uses the same formula of ARPG games - replayability and randomness.


 


I don't know about you guys, but I play it for what it is, an ARPG.


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  Pilnkplonk

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12/22/11 2:13:54 AM#39

I might take another look at it but I can't find any info on "freemium" stuff or the shop on their site. Weird, I know.


Can someone enlighten me how much it costs to unlock all content, do they charge a sub somewhere down the line and does the item shop include stat-chaniging items?


Thnx guys in advance.


  Gorilla

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12/22/11 2:41:52 AM#40
Originally posted by BillMurphy

Alex may come in to the topic later, but I will say that he and I talked a lot about HG while he was writing the review, and all he kept saying was that it's really gotten a lot better since the Flagship days.  His honest opinion is that the game is worth this score, and that's enough for me.  I'm likely going to be checking it out again myself soon, based on his opinion.  But that doesn't mean he's "right".  It just means that an 8/10 is what he thinks of Hellgate: Global. 

 

Whatever happened to MMORPG introducing some consistancy in scoring and reviewing? I seem to remember it being on the agenda some while back..

Personally I just don't trust all those 9's, it certainly gives you know where to go if Torchlight II or Diablo III are game of the year materiall?  9's really? Come on now, if 10 is perfection (or at least 'as good as it gets')......

You know what? I was going to go onbut tbh I don't think it's worth it. It seems to me that MMORPG just do not take there reviews seriously or assume any sort of responsibility for any sort of real consistency or objectivity. Truly sad and a wasted opportunity.

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