someone is getting worries here...HA..Blizzard and there silly WoW

It is better to share profits and launch the highly demanded SW game on the market than to come out with your own stupid ideas and just fuk the product up. The pandas expansion is a good example - we already know that it would be unsuccesful. But yeah Bobby - you still have all the problems with WoW ahead of you, so why not to spil some coffee on the TOR while you are idle.

Originally posted by Tardcore

A massive story driven themepark game based on Star Wars made by Bioware, a company with a massive fan following, and backed by Lucas Arts, the masters of merchandising madness, and he doesn't think that EA can turn a massive profit off this game? What a smug little jackass. I ended up not liking this game but even I can see how well it will appeal to quite a large number of gamers.

To be fair Tard, he didn't say that the game wouldn't make a ton of money... he said the  percentages that Lucas demand will impact heavily on EA's take home pay.

I can see where he is coming from.

The merchandising you mention for example... who do you think make off that? EA or LA?

Originally posted by darkbamy

someone is getting worries here...HA..Blizzard and there silly WoW

I'm no Blizz fan and I have never played WoW, but I don't see the worry in his observation.

What part did you see the 'worry' in?

Maybe if SWTOR ha 1/10 paying subs that WoW has in a year (which I sincerely doubt personally) they will start to maybe worry. But by then ofc Diablo III will be their new cash machine, at least until their new MMO drops.

Blizzard worrying? hehe I bet just about every other game dev in the world had their worries.

It just strikes me as pointless and lacking class, you'd think he's be trying to hype his next project, not come off as a sore loser already.

Even if Lucas took even more of the profit, its stll a massive bonus to Bioware to get so many players into their product, and therefore possibly others, (gateway to ME?) not to mention their rep for a project this prestigious.

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Originally posted by Scalebane

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Originally posted by lizardbones
Blizzard shares are down 5.5% and EA's shares are up 27%. It's not a stretch to think that players aren't the only things Blizzard might be losing to EA. This is how corporations compete when they can't compete on the merits of their products.

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MW3 sold so many copies EA could only hope to ever have a game sell as well, but since kotek has no say over what Blizzard does its funny he's even talking.
http://www.vgchartz.com/charts/weekly.php
here's a chart you can see MW3's total sales per system, i really doubt they can't compete with EA the destroyer of game companies.

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Now, I'm not a big fan of SWTOR, and probably won't last long past the first month, but it's not horrible.  PLUS, does this guy not understand the power of the Star Wars IP?  I'm sure FOX studios isn't complaining about it's long standing deal with Lucasarts for the past 25 years or so and I think the movie's "economics" helped them out pretty well.

WoW will always be the best WoW. You can dress your clone up with lightsabers and stormtrooper suits, but people aren't going stay longer than it takes Blizzard to release another expansion.

Originally posted by MrBoots

WoW will always be the best WoW. You can dress your clone up with lightsabers and stormtrooper suits, but people aren't going stay longer than it takes Blizzard to release another expansion.

 

funny i played just a beta of swtor and 5 years of wow and i can tell already that swtor is in every sinlge way better.

do me a favor now..go back to your 1 pixel game and dont bother with your pathetic trolling attempt it doesnt work. your precious wow is dying deal with it...loosing each month more than 70k subs without been able to covering its a matter of time wow will officialy be dead.

And stop mention diablo 3...diablo 3 is not an mmo its a hack n slash - rpg game with an mutliplayer add on

Kotick is a royal arse that pretty much every gamer should hate.....

At the same time, he's probably not wrong that Lucas is taking a pretty large bite out of the proffits for TOR..... but that certainly doesn't mean that TOR can't or won't be proffiitable... it just raises the bar on the volume of sales that TOR has to have in order to get a good return....just like the size of the budget that went into developing TOR did. In other words, EA is "swinging for the fences" with TOR rather then "hitting for contact".

I was mildly surprised that Bioware didn't use one of thier own IP's for thier first MMO (ME or DA) as both are pretty well established at this point, especialy with Bioware's fan base. The wouldn't have gotten the Star Wars fan base, but they wouldn't have had to deal with the licensing for the the IP.  It would have been a more conservative play.....but they decided for the high risk/high reward route instead. Will be interesting to see how well it pans out for them in the long run.

What did he say that was not true?

LA will make the killing with this game no matter how the subs are in a year.  Why it is hard to deal with these huge IP's. The deals all start with the IP holder getting the lion share of profits and being able to stick their hands into the mix and dictate how they want the game to be, no matter if it will make the game better or not.

As to stock prices and stock market in general.  Just a big gambling scam:) 

-1 for wow subcriber

im switching to swtor

he just mad that many people like me will leave wow for the better game 

seriously wow graphic are dated and look ugly and the game almost DONE for everyone

just need instance and raid added each couple months .

and no thx to the panda shit .

This guy is doing damage control... that's all that this is...

Seriously, LucasArts is going to take a cut?  No shit sherlock.  But unless you work at BioWare and know what they negotiated into the contract, how can you possibly know how much of a cut, or how that will impact BioWare/EA?

And who even cares?  If somebody offered me 10% of $1 million dollars, or 1% of $1 billiion, I'd be just fine with the 1% thank you very much!  And that's what George Lucas brings to the table - his IP makes the "pie" so much bigger, that even a smaller slice is still well worth it... 

The only thing that will hurt this games profits is if they shut down. This is one of the biggest IP's in the world. They've probably already made their investment back just from pre-orders alone. If not, the second months subscriptions will do it. Never underestimate Star Wars. Its not WoW but it doesn't have to be, its Star Wars. 

Heheh, of course he's worried.  500k subscribers to SWTOR? Keep going...

I remember EQ,back in the day with it's ultimate 1.5 million subscribers losing over 1 million to WoW....and that was before anyone saw the numbers Blizzard reached.

I think that the numbers lost won't be in the thousands, but in the millions.

Originally posted by lizardbones

 

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Originally posted by Scalebane

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Originally posted by lizardbones
Blizzard shares are down 5.5% and EA's shares are up 27%. It's not a stretch to think that players aren't the only things Blizzard might be losing to EA. This is how corporations compete when they can't compete on the merits of their products.

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MW3 sold so many copies EA could only hope to ever have a game sell as well, but since kotek has no say over what Blizzard does its funny he's even talking.
http://www.vgchartz.com/charts/weekly.php
here's a chart you can see MW3's total sales per system, i really doubt they can't compete with EA the destroyer of game companies.

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I was referring to the mmorpg market. Activision's value is so tied to WoW's performance, it's not funny (if you're an investor). If WoW actually tanked, Activision's stock would take a major hit. If WoW tanked at the same time as SW:ToR became a hit, it would be even worse. It doesn't matter that MW3 sells 4* times as many copies as BF3.

* That number is going to get bigger.

 

You pretty much hit the nail on the head here.  Activisions major money makers are WoW and CoD and with WoW in decline and CoD simply recycling, Activision needs to figure something out before its too late.

omg..no one at bioware/ea could know of this because lucas arts is not known for treasuring its license and also its the first star wars game published by them...

uhm

no wait...

Dude is just scared shitless because Activision/Blizzard stocks took a hit and their investors are getting worried. All he was trying to say was that in the business end of mmo's there's only one company that can turn huge profits and that was them. The dude is dillusional.

Sounds like a sore loser while the game hasn't even started yet.

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