Originally posted by Hyp47

Originally posted by Sukiyaki

World/Abyss PvP is not FFA and has never been.

 

Sry how do you define it than?

by ffa i meant that u go in solo/team (as u like) and theres no objective, its just pointless killing.

 

FFA means everyone can kill everyone else I think, which Aion ofc course dosen't allow with it's hardcoded factions.

Maybe faction based open world PvP?

Ill resub if they pay me 50 dollars each hour im online.

Originally posted by Pocahinha

Ill resub if they pay me 50 dollars each hour im online.

again, I will ask... though I suspect I know the real answer.

Did you buy the client?

If you did it obviously appealed before, so what could be changed to make it appeal again?

If you didn't, this thread isn't for you.

Poll is incomplete.

Where's the "Not a chance again after I subbed for one year" choice?

Originally posted by popinjay

Poll is incomplete.

 

Where's the "Not a chance again after I subbed for one year" choice?

well, lets try to be constructive maybe and talk about what made you spend money on it, sub for a year, and eventually leave?

Your history with the game alone underlines that you liked quite a lot about it, at least at some point.

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Originally posted by vesavius

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Originally posted by popinjay
Poll is incomplete.
 
Where's the "Not a chance again after I subbed for one year" choice?

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well, lets try to be constructive maybe and talk about what made you spend money on it, sub for a year, and eventually leave?
Your history with the game alone underlines that you liked quite a lot about it, at least at some point.
 
 

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Didn't like the Miragent's grind. I thought the bloods needed to get the gear was incredibly stupid as far as drop rate, which any person could see was nothing more than a gating mechanism badly designed. I don't think gear that's necessary for endgame activities that are part of a QUESTLINE should be random, they should be able to be completed like any quest, not RNG.

I think the housing is a good addition, but the look of them make me think "suburbs", not fantasy game. The funny thing is, I was looking at houses in the Philippines and thought: "I'd rather live in the Philippine house. At least it has a carport for resale value."

I actually liked the PvP weapons and gear and didn't think it was incredibly difficult to gear up early enough but after a certain amount of time with the + system, things became ugly fast. As long as you had enough money to attempt enchants, you could become a God. If you didn't, then you could buy some luck through the shop. Did not like that very much.

Is that still in there?

FREE TO PLAY - No matter what they do it does not change the fact it is NCSoft West and the game LITERALLY has no local dev team to fix content or adjust the content for an American audience. It is just a bunch of translators and QA team.

Aion is guaranteed going F2P when GW2 launches. Anyone who tell you differently has never played.

If NCSoft succeeds at recovering my characters and thier stuff, from an account that appears to have been hacked months ago, while I was away.  I was going to try subbing again, but now, waiting on support to get back to me, and its not looking good...

Originally posted by Nephaerius

For me they would have to rework the entire combat system to work for PvP.  No more losing control of your character in order to do skill animations that lock you in place.  Also this would fix aerial melee vs ranged pvp probs.  For a pvp game this game is a total waste due to these issues. (IMO)

Exactly the reasons I left Aion for good. Fix this and I'll be back for sure.

Originally posted by popinjay

 

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Originally posted by vesavius

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Originally posted by popinjay
Poll is incomplete.
 
Where's the "Not a chance again after I subbed for one year" choice?

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well, lets try to be constructive maybe and talk about what made you spend money on it, sub for a year, and eventually leave?
Your history with the game alone underlines that you liked quite a lot about it, at least at some point.
 
 

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I thought that was helping you to make better polls in the future. You always need choices like "none of the above" and "No".

 

Nah,you really don't. Not when the question is specific, like the one asked. The OP clearly made it clear what was being asked and who is was being asked of.

Not participating is your way of saying 'no' here, but really... is there NOTHING they could do to bring you back, no matter how extreme? Say, for instance, a dramatic easing of most and removal of some RNG?

But, tbh, I don't wanna be bogged down with a quibble about whether you like the poll or not, so I will just say this and leave it. Your free to not participate if you find it so badly made, I don't mind :)

Originally posted by popinjay

 

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Originally posted by vesavius

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Originally posted by popinjay
Poll is incomplete.
 
Where's the "Not a chance again after I subbed for one year" choice?

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well, lets try to be constructive maybe and talk about what made you spend money on it, sub for a year, and eventually leave?
Your history with the game alone underlines that you liked quite a lot about it, at least at some point.
 
 

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Didn't like the Miragent's grind. I thought the bloods needed to get the gear was incredibly stupid as far as drop rate, which any person could see was nothing more than a gating mechanism badly designed. I don't think gear that's necessary for endgame activities that are part of a QUESTLINE should be random, they should be able to be completed like any quest, not RNG.

OK, removal (or maybe easing?) of RNG from the aquisition of essential items would be your 'Other' then?

I think the housing is a good addition, but the look of them make me think "suburbs", not fantasy game.

Fair enough, you don't like the housing style they are going for, thats fair enough, but eeing as that isn't in the game yet I guess this wasn't a reason you left?

I actually liked the PvP weapons and gear and didn't think it was incredibly difficult to gear up early enough but after a certain amount of time with the + system, things became ugly fast. As long as you had enough money to attempt enchants, you could become a God. If you didn't, then you could buy some luck through the shop. Did not like that very much. Is that still in there?

The RNG for slotting etc you mean? I believe so, though I think they have eased off on the chance to fail somewhat.I don't play anymore myself so I am not sure.

But again, this would seem to be a RNG issue you have with the game?

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Originally posted by vesavius
OK, removal (or maybe easing?) of RNG from the aquisition of essential items would be your 'Other' then?

Fair enough, you don't like the housing style they are going for, thats fair enough, but eeing as that isn't in the game yet I guess this wasn't a reason you left?

The RNG for slotting etc you mean? I believe so, though I think they have eased off on the chance to fail somewhat.I don't play anymore myself so I am not sure.

But again, this would seem to be a RNG issue you have with the game?
 

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Actually, one of the reasons I left was because there was no form of housing. As you said, it's not even n the game yet and after this amount of time, that's pretty scandalous given how many people were requesting it or some form of it. Too little, too late is the axiom I'm thinking of here.

Outside of the open world PvP which I liked and the Abyss fort challenges, the dungeons were simply too much to handle repetitively to handle. Dark Poeta ended up being one soggy mess after awhile and forget ever stepping in Theo again (although they did streamline it after awhile, but it was STILL Theo).

The other points I've stated as well which wouldn't get me to resub. Also, when I leave a game for as long as I've left Aion there rarely isn't any "coming back". The longer that I (and most players in general) leave a game they've played before, the chances are they won't return or stay for any length of time when they come back.

I doubt you'd find anyone who played a game for three months, then came back and decided to play it for six months. Usually the game has 'passed them by' as far as gear and stepping stone content and there is a huge disconnect between what the returnees want to do and what the existing playerbase wants to do.

I know for me I loved rifts in Rift but I would probably never go back as Trion is making the focus dungeons/raids and less on rifts. The populations are only interested in gear progression as the carrot so I doubt I'd find much fun. Same with Aion in that respect, people will be long past what I may find interesting because they are simply burned out on a particular mechanic or content.

Originally posted by popinjay

 

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Originally posted by vesavius
OK, removal (or maybe easing?) of RNG from the aquisition of essential items would be your 'Other' then?

Fair enough, you don't like the housing style they are going for, thats fair enough, but eeing as that isn't in the game yet I guess this wasn't a reason you left?

 

The RNG for slotting etc you mean? I believe so, though I think they have eased off on the chance to fail somewhat.I don't play anymore myself so I am not sure.

But again, this would seem to be a RNG issue you have with the game?
 

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Actually, one of the reasons I left was because there was no form of housing. As you said, it's not even n the game yet and after this amount of time, that's pretty scandalous given how many people were requesting it or some form of it. Too little, too late is the axiom I'm thinking of here.

I do get that PoV, honestly.

Outside of the open world PvP which I liked and the Abyss fort challenges, the dungeons were simply too much to handle repetitively to handle. Dark Poeta ended up being one soggy mess after awhile and forget ever stepping in Theo again (although they did streamline it after awhile, but it was STILL Theo).

So more PvE content to cut down on repetition and provide alternate paths to level?

The other points I've stated as well which wouldn't get me to resub.

Not even if they fixed the RNG to your liking?

Also, when I leave a game for as long as I've left Aion there rarely isn't any "coming back". The longer that I (and most players in general) leave a game they've played before, the chances are they won't return or stay for any length of time when they come back. I doubt you'd find anyone who played a game for three months, then came back and decided to play it for six months. Usually the game has 'passed them by' as far as gear and stepping stone content and there is a huge disconnect between what the returnees want to do and what the existing playerbase wants to do.

I actually agree, and this why I personally would need a fresh server to re start.

I hate joining top heavy established servers in any game.

I guess what I am saying is that each of your (valid) reasons for not returning are addressable, if NCsoft have the will, imagination, or market awareness to do so.

Sadly, I think they have none of this, but this thread isn't a petition to them I guess... it's more an excercise in curiosity as to the barriers they would face if they ever wanted this game to live again.

 I bought the game when it first got to the states and it was decent. It was troubling to learn that the vast majority of the content and games design was towards PvP so I did my month and unsubbed. I came back about a year later and gave it another go after reading that they had added some PvE content, but the game was still geared towards PvP. I hadn't experienced it so I got my character to a level where I ran into the other faction (Elyos I beleive it was?) and the ganking began. Seeing as how there weren't many leveling paths I had to be in that area and I couldn't get further into the game because I was getting nowhere at the rate I was going due to the camping.

I chose other on the poll. Although having PvE servers would help with what I experienced, it doesn't change the fact that the game is geared towards PvP. I dabble in PvP but I don't pay a sub to play a game just to PvP. I preferr more PvE with added PvP. I don't think I would have minded the open world PvP if there was more of an open world to avoid the griefing. I didn't make it far enough in the game to have a lot of other reasons so I'll leave it at just what I experienced and say that It willl take much more PvE content and the unraveling and self imploding of GW2 for me to come back to this game. If both of those things don't happen, then I can't see myself going back to even give it another shot.

Honestly?

Nothing.

Biggest mistake i've made in gaming was buying Aion, the features, the style, the gameplay...it's just not for me.

My sub is still active but I haven't logged on in several months (keeping account current for GW2 hookup).   I really loved AION for about a year-- I have a maxed sin and almost maxed cleric, sorc, and glad.  I just can't bring myself to play anymore.

My issues seem to revolve around these things:

All the good instances take too long--to clear Talocs without hurrying takes over an hour.  At lvl 55, I hate being trapped in a space that long (but get gold drops 40% of the runs so a good money maker--but a grind if you do it every other day.)

All the good instances except Taloc's require groups.  Sometimes you just don't want to be with a group.

Crafting, while a great system, takes too long --cooking--yikes.  I got to where I would just go watch tv while i crafted--which is hardly gaming.

After a year or so, it just all seems the same, no matter which class you roll.

I would like to like it again, but I just don't see it happening.

Looking forward to SWTOR and GW2.

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Originally posted by vesavius

Not even if they fixed the RNG to your liking?

 
I guess what I am saying is that each of your (valid) reasons for not returning are addressable, if NCsoft have the will, imagination, or market awareness to do so.
Sadly, I think they have none of this, but this thread isn't a petition to them I guess... it's more an excercise in curiosity as to the barriers they would face if they ever wanted this game to live again.

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As a FFXI fan, I couldn't wait for FFXIV to be released. When it was, I struggled mightily to keep playing once it was clear to me so much was missing. I saw the gaping holes but since SE promised to work on the game (which they have done admirably and truthfully) I decided to keep playing sparingly since it was free. No way would I have paid while the fixes were ongoing.

Now fast foward to Rift's launch. I played Rift's beta while I was still playing FFXIV off/on with guildies. I raved about how Rift's rifts were so much fun and even got a few people do come over and play. Now we still logged into FFXIV to stay "current" while they added new stuff and fixes, so we'd be ready when the game was, but it simply wasn't enough for me. I began to play Rift and eventually got bored after three months or so out of a six month sub.

When I decided to go back and see all the changes my friends said happened in FFXIV like crafting and exp gains, I was pleasantly surprised and enjoyed the first two weeks back. But I found most of the guys had passed me and were doing other stuff and the population in general had moved onto dungeons they put in. I realized finally that I could not go back to FFXIV and have since uninstalled. Even Vanguard this happened; played for six months, left while they fixed it, came back and was behind the curve. This is just about any mmo made due to progression.. if you miss it, it's pretty much gone and playing catch-up will burn you the F out.

I always feel like this crazy ass guy from Star Trek: Generations on this bridge when playing games I left:

Guy spent the whole movie trying to get back to the Nexus thing but kept failing and it simply screwed up his head.

Let me start by saying YES I bought the client, and have played two years. I have a 55 Temp and also SIX 30 something Elyos of varying proffession and TWO 30 something Asmo's.  I wanted to quit several times while my main was comming up, from lvl 20 to 40 was HELL, this was before the PVP buffs. It is really bad when one lvl 34 twink can take out a full party of 6 and never take any damge two shotting everyone in the group, while the elite enemies pat them on the butt. Now it is somewhat easier as a lower lvl to get things done with the buffs, it gives you some chance. The twinks hate it but F#*k them,I am not playing for their enjoyment. SO yes a PVE server is the only way I would come back! Now the straw that broke the camels back was with the event at Halloween when the brain trust put the event in the arena. Took my 55 in there thinking it would be an easy waste of time to complete the event quests, ONLY to find 5-10 lvl 55's with +15 PVP armor and weapons killing you as soon as you spawn. I made a complaint to NCSoft and they said it was playing as designed. So I left my 6 months time on the server and took it as a lesson to never pay in advance on a game in the future.

I have an artisian and master crafter in both Armor Smith and Alchemy, yes it takes to long to craft the items. I normally set it up before I go to bed and sometimes depending on how much I am crafting it will be done when I wake up. The potions sell pretty well but the armor is not that great. Spend 15 mil on materials do 5 tries and don't get a proc you might be able to sell it to the merchant for 500k. I would like to see the crafting mean something, IE you can craft better then most drops and the proc rate increase some too.

what would bring me back?

If they actually had some diversity to builds. It is just too simple a game.

i think one thing that stands out about whats wrong with this game is that once you reach lvl 20 and your in pvp area your screwed if your a new player..crappy gear,no money..you dont stand a chance remotely of enjoying your gameplay for the next 30 lvls because you will spend most of it dead.i,m kind of at a loss to beieve that they can think this game is either balanced or kind of fair in any sense.you aint goin to attract new customers the way the game is set out atm.have to say for new peeps only option is pve servers to give them a chance.maybe i,m wrong..just my opinion though