While I agree with most of what was said, I disagree about the top 3 of this list.

I feel that either the UI or the character creation should be number 1 and 2 (in which order doesnt matter to me), but putting a minigame as the number 1 thing thats wrong about SWTOR is just silly.

Whether you like it or not, space combat IS nothing more than a minigame and thus not really impacting the main game while the UI is in your face almost all the time and the character creator is the basis of the character you spend all those hours with.

My only gripe is the UI, its not MMO worthy

The spacegame is not an issue, if you don't like it, don't play it. And maybe if enough players keep subbed, it will be upgraded in a future patch/expansion.

Characer creation, just add a size slider and some more boddyforms and it will be more then enough.

I too have to disagree with space combat being #1.  It really was never intended to be a major focus of the game, and it is exactly what it's supposed to be - a minigame, a distraction from the main part of the game.

The UI is definitely lacking, though I'm sure it will be improved.

I will agree that some of the sidequests seem to not really make much sense for your character to be doing, though I ended up skipping a lot of them in the beta as I outleveled a lot of them.

Character creation is definitely an issue and I wish it would be improved greatly.

I agree with that list pretty much, though the Space Combat isn't an issue for me.  That it's there at all is a plus in my book.  It's not essential to level, and the commendation rewards are just "meh" stuff.

Itemization is a biggie at the moment.  Until EVERYTHING is socketed, it's gonna feel like a junk system.  As far as looks goes, my companions all look like hobos and my character doesn't look much better.

Pretty much nailed it Mike.  MIght have changed a few of those around in what I believe should be ordered of importance.  (character creation and UI I think should be the highest on the list seeing as how you deal with those for the majority of your playtime, and even in the best case scenario, space combat is only a fraction of your total gameplay).

But I digress.  Good work.  Carry on.

One of my serious complaints having taken a character to 15lvl is that there are nearly enough quests.  Either that, or I'm simply missing a quest hub somewhere.  I started noticing I was behind the leveling curve around 10th level, but could still complete quests because they were rather easy.

But at 15lvl, things are decidedly getting out of hand. In fact, I'm stuck on my class quest line because I can't defeat the final elite boss whose a level or two above me, and I haven't any other quests to pursue in order to level up.

Yeah, I could grind mobs...but that isn't the spirit of the game, or of my character.

Originally posted by precious328

 

I agree. Good list.

 

My personal "dislike" list:

 

#5. Player Ships - It doesn't feel like my ship; it feels like I'm borrowing it.

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  No body or style selection.


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  Typecasted - everyone of the same class has the same ship


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  I can't use any of the furniture on the ship (Immersion).


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  I can't even decorate or move things around on my own ship.

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I just wanted to make a correction that you CAN sit in the chairs in your starship. Sitting in the pilot's chair also brings up the galaxy map. So I don't know if you have played a more recent build or didn't notice.

Just shows they do listen but they can't do everything everyone wants, atleast not right away.

Originally posted by OgreRaper

Things I hate about SW:TOR, or rather, reasons I won't buy it:

 

1. Races - The selection is extremely bland. Mostly copy/paste of the human model. And no racial skills either (aside from special dance and other RP animations) . I find that to be unacceptable.

2. No add-ons or macros - I'm an add-on addict. I love being able to customize things to my liking. Another deal breaker.

3. No dungeon finder - Actually I could live without this, because I'm primarily a PvP player. But sometimes I want to run a dungeon after a long day at work... the last thing I want to do is spam LFG! LFG! LFG!  This is especially true late a night. 3 AM dungeon runs are easy to find in WoW. In SW:TOR, it will be an issue.

 

 

None of the Heroics require grouping. I was able to solo Steel Voice on Hutta with my BH. Yep. Real heroic.

Originally posted by maskedweasel

Pretty much nailed it Mike.  MIght have changed a few of those around in what I believe should be ordered of importance.  (character creation and UI I think should be the highest on the list seeing as how you deal with those for the majority of your playtime, and even in the best case scenario, space combat is only a fraction of your total gameplay).

 

But I digress.  Good work.  Carry on.

Weird, I like the UI, only wish we could move the windows around.

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Originally posted by icehawke
None of the Heroics require grouping. I was able to solo Steel Voice on Hutta with my BH. Yep. Real heroic.

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I'll guess that you solo'd it once you had your companion, which would mean you soloed a quest that was designed to be done by someone several levels lower than you. Congrats!

Of course since I said that, no matter what the truth is, I'm sure we'll hear how you soloed it at level and did it easily it was done. Dont let facts get in the way of making a point though, ever!

Seriously though, yeah, some 2+ heroic's can be soloed if you work at it, but to suggest that none of 'em do, you'd be fairly seriously mistaken, unless of course you significantly overlevel them.

Hey, I soloed Black Talon, so really Flashpoints dont require group either, right?

Originally posted by icehawke

None of the Heroics require grouping. I was able to solo Steel Voice on Hutta with my BH. Yep. Real heroic.

Solo or with companion?

Also, don't assume that everyone that plays the game is as good or better than you.  I have no idea how good your are at the game, but chances are, there are probably at least some people who aren't as good and need groups.  Not to mention, that they may prefer to group.

My top 5 are:

Crafting

Space Combat

Character creation

No Appearance slots

............

i dont even have a fitfh

From what I have experienced so far, the main issue I had was the UI customisation.  I hate side quickbars, I like 4 or 5 at the bottom and I like them rather small.  I had to put side bars on to fit my skills, ally skills and quick items/buffs on and all of a sudden it's so crowded I can't see my character properly.  The chat window is overlapping everything and I can only make it thinner not shorter which renders  my massive monitor practically useless.  The UI  is oversized and bubbly,  that only leaves me a box the size of my hand in the middle in which to actually experience the game world.

Even just the added fuction of resizing windows or the UI scale as a whole would bring it lightyears ahead.

Secondly, the character customisation.  Although I was not completely dismayed by this I was slightly miffed that although there were a lot of options, most of them were so pig ugly or strange looking that I have trouble imagining that anyone would use them.  I don't understand why companies spend so much time making different facial textures and haircuts and even helmet and clothing to some degree, when most is so bad looking I actually feel cruel to my character to think of using it.  They could accomplish so much more with less useless presets and a couple of colour wheels.

People always find something to complain about.

The questing is too easy!  everything is laid out for me!

The quest nodes are too confusing I can't find where to turn em in!

I wish they hadn't even added in space combat!

The space combat they added in sucks horribly!

I wish you could do a lot of features you could never do on any theme park game and I had unrealistic expectations and now I'm super disapointed and I blame Bioware.

(this is examples of what I see)

Originally posted by Elikal

Originally posted by maskedweasel

Pretty much nailed it Mike.  MIght have changed a few of those around in what I believe should be ordered of importance.  (character creation and UI I think should be the highest on the list seeing as how you deal with those for the majority of your playtime, and even in the best case scenario, space combat is only a fraction of your total gameplay).

 

But I digress.  Good work.  Carry on.

Weird, I like the UI, only wish we could move the windows around.

That is what i mean,  there really isn't much in the way of customization.   I dislike the windows where they are...   I also dislike the size of some windows,  and after playing for as long as I have, I'm sick of the tutorial window being there,  and the bars on the sides when I'd prefer extra bars on the bottom, or running the length of the screen instead of being masked by overlayed windows.   

I think theres a lot of room for improvement with the UI,  and as its what you deal with the most, I find the ability to change it a high priority.

A good point was made earlier about what exactly any of you would do with free roaming space flight.

So you're just gonna fly around in the vastness of space? Checking out cool looking planets? That gets really old really fast, just ask Eve.

I would rather them never spend another second on space combat and focus more on story.

Also this was an old beta build (this past weekend) circa Sept. Luckily many of the smaller issues have been fixed and there was a dev quote about opening up the UI API "very soon" after launch.

May be true, but it's the best MMORPG to come out in years, and I've played all the major ones.  

I have played the weekend beta and I am realy disappointed by the character editor. There is theoreticaly enough choice, but the races share hair, heads, scars etc. which reduces the amount of good looking combinations, because in my opinion not all of them fit for all races. I mean for example most of the hair styles for the male Sith pureblood...

FOR ME

The deal breaker   (no I'm not buying the game)

24/7 persistent world realm vs realm conflict is  so minimal as to be insignifigant(yes I've heard words...NOT ACTIONS and gameplay that shows Bioware considers it important(rather I interpret the lack of this content in the same way as the child like  instanced pvp...."lets stick some of this pvp stuff in the game to keep some criticism off our backs"....is how I interprt this critical deficiency

So I'm waiting for DOMINUS  or GUILD WARS 2  or ARCHAGE etc

Originally posted by Dhraal

I have played the weekend beta and I am realy disappointed by the character editor. There is theoreticaly enough choice, but the races share hair, heads, scars etc. which reduces the amount of good looking combinations, because in my opinion not all of them fit for all races. I mean for example most of the hair styles for the male Sith pureblood...

Ha!  I was SO tempted to get the thorniest looking pureblood and give him Beiber hair!  ;P