Trending Games | Elder Scrolls Online | Crowfall | Elsword | Guild Wars 2

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,931,775 Users Online:0
Games:764  Posts:6,342,187
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online AD2460 ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Ninja Anime Pirates Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord 2 Archlord X Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crowfall Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Cyberpunk 2077 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark Souls 2 Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deep Down Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Fin Soup Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout 4 Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken Uprising Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GRAV GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods Rush Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Atlan Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online Kill Strain King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings Era Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Redemption LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Grimrock 2 Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lords of the Fallen 2 Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance Mass Effect 4 MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms Might & Magic X: Legacy MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mythborne Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Oort Online Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Overwatch Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pillars of Eternity Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints Pokémon X and Y PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Prodigy Project Blackout Project Gorgon Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rail Nation Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of Sierra Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Rebel Galaxy Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowgate Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian South Park: The Stick of Truth Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Conflict Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Starbound Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Stormthrone Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online TUG Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Terraria Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Banner Saga 2 The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Epic Might The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Torment: Tides of Numenera Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Triad Wars Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Warflare Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warriors World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

General Discussion

General Discussion 

The Pub at MMORPG.COM  » Most discussed MMO on MMORPG.COM- Skyrim

6 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 6 » Search
105 posts found
  Lester_Creech

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/06/10
Posts: 517

Feliz seria que hora

11/15/11 11:07:14 PM#41

comparing the concept of MMO's to Skyrim is silly.

no matter how great Skyrim is (and it is) it would be infinitely better if it were all that it is now PLUS being an MMO.

 

Skyrim is an excellent game that failed to implement any MMO features.

 

just because a really awsome novel is written, doesent mean that movies are a bad idea.

  Laughing-man

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/23/09
Posts: 3402

I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

11/15/11 11:16:51 PM#42
Originally posted by Picklebeast
Originally posted by Teala

I think we're all so excited because Skyrim is delivering whart so many MMORPG's fail to give us players - a living breathing virtual world.

I think you hit the nail on the head =P

QFT.    Agreed.  Its so hard to manage what you can in a single player game into an mmo.  So many games have tried and come close but not enough...

I honestly think a game that was like skyrim but online might not be the best way to port it, you'd have to make some choice design changes for the massive part of the multiplayer experience.

  Distopia

Drifter

Joined: 11/22/05
Posts: 16202

"what a boring life, HATING everything" -Gorilla Biscuits

11/15/11 11:17:38 PM#43
Originally posted by Cruoris

 

no matter how great Skyrim is (and it is) it would be infinitely better if it were all that it is now PLUS being an MMO.

 

How so?  What makes Skyrim so great for me is how immersive the experience is, add in 100's of players dancing or running around naked, while talking trash and stating how badass Chuck Norris is, would severly detract from that immersion. "MMO" does not automatically make a game better.

For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  Southpaw.Gamer

Advanced Member

Joined: 11/25/08
Posts: 578

Full Sail University - Game Design Student

11/15/11 11:24:39 PM#44
Originally posted by Cruoris

comparing the concept of MMO's to Skyrim is silly.

no matter how great Skyrim is (and it is) it would be infinitely better if it were all that it is now PLUS being an MMO.

 

Skyrim is an excellent game that failed to implement any MMO features.

 

just because a really awsome novel is written, doesent mean that movies are a bad idea.

 

I agree TES (The Elder Scrolls) presents a very tempting setting for an MMO... the world is HUGE, the lore is rich and overall each game has been quite the work of art.  However... I don't think TES would make a good MMO, why?  Us (The players)

 

#1.  All the random trash items laying around in TES games that are there to improve a settings sourroundings wouldn't be there.  Why? Because people would take it all even if just to trash it leaving places like taverns... tables... bookshielves... empty / barren.

 

#2.  All the NPC characters would be dead 90% of the time just for the "lulz"

 

#3.  TES as an MMO would have to be a sandbox game with FPS controls and full loot.  Maybe 5% of you pansies would be able to handle that

 

The closest we have to a TES MMO is Darkfall Online.  Despite its issues.  The sad part?  TES: Skyrim feels more "Alive" than Darkfall does.  If Darkfall were to have actual NPC characters that brought life to not only the cities buit the world in general the game would be MUCH better.  

 

So yeah.  Make me a TES MMORPG... I'd love it... and so would 5% of the market after launch.  Might sell well because it has the TES name on the box... but I promse you half you themepark kiddies wouldn't be able to handle the game.  Sorry I don't mean to be rude.

 

 

Full Sail University - Game Design

  Laughing-man

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/23/09
Posts: 3402

I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

11/15/11 11:36:40 PM#45
Originally posted by Bainwalker
Originally posted by Cruoris

comparing the concept of MMO's to Skyrim is silly.

no matter how great Skyrim is (and it is) it would be infinitely better if it were all that it is now PLUS being an MMO.

 

Skyrim is an excellent game that failed to implement any MMO features.

 

just because a really awsome novel is written, doesent mean that movies are a bad idea.

 

*snip*  Sorry I don't mean to be rude.

 

 

Then try not insulting your audience  :-D

I think more people would like an elder scrolls MMO than you think, UO had A TON of little items sitting around that added to its envrioment that people didn't just "trash" as you put it, infact people added items to the world, making it more authentic.

It doesn't have to be full loot, could be a modified loot system similar to origional UO or old school Runescape, maybe certain items you can have blessed to not be lootable by some means.

Its entirely possible to make an Elder scrolls game that appeals to the same audience that likes its single player version.

 

  Southpaw.Gamer

Advanced Member

Joined: 11/25/08
Posts: 578

Full Sail University - Game Design Student

11/15/11 11:41:13 PM#46
Originally posted by Laughing-man
Originally posted by Bainwalker
Originally posted by Cruoris

comparing the concept of MMO's to Skyrim is silly.

no matter how great Skyrim is (and it is) it would be infinitely better if it were all that it is now PLUS being an MMO.

 

Skyrim is an excellent game that failed to implement any MMO features.

 

just because a really awsome novel is written, doesent mean that movies are a bad idea.

 

*snip*  Sorry I don't mean to be rude.

 

 

Then try not insulting your audience  :-D

I think more people would like an elder scrolls MMO than you think, UO had A TON of little items sitting around that added to its envrioment that people didn't just "trash" as you put it, infact people added items to the world, making it more authentic.

It doesn't have to be full loot, could be a modified loot system similar to origional UO or old school Runescape, maybe certain items you can have blessed to not be lootable by some means.

Its entirely possible to make an Elder scrolls game that appeals to the same audience that likes its single player version.

 

 

Sorry but I feel changing any of the features in the single player games would be a step away from what TES is about.  Freedom.  If I kill you I have the right to what is on your corpse.  Same goes if you kill me.  Items should be easily gotten with obviously some costing more than others.  

 

Again you want to try to change a core concept in TES just to suite the mainstream.  THAT is why it would fail and tarnish the series good name.  The change casual gamers would demand would ruin the entire concepts behind TES.

 

Adding freedom to a game is good.  Taking it away because people are pixel whores?  Not good.

Full Sail University - Game Design

  Odysses

Novice Member

Joined: 4/11/05
Posts: 582

11/15/11 11:49:08 PM#47
Originally posted by Teala

I think we're all so excited because Skyrim is delivering whart so many MMORPG's fail to give us players - a living breathing virtual world.

I think you nailed my feelings exactly and I haven't even played skyrim yet lol!!

Something very funny to me, in the early days UO, Everquest and AC, they all captured this essential element.  Regardless which game you played, those games were virtual large open worlds for players to explore.  Regardless if your a Sandbox or Themepark fan, the living breathing virtual world shouldn't have to suffer in all these new MMO's.

  Laughing-man

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/23/09
Posts: 3402

I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

11/15/11 11:53:40 PM#48
Originally posted by Bainwalker
 

 

Sorry but I feel changing any of the features in the single player games would be a step away from what TES is about.  Freedom.  If I kill you I have the right to what is on your corpse.  Same goes if you kill me.  Items should be easily gotten with obviously some costing more than others.  

 

Again you want to try to change a core concept in TES just to suite the mainstream.  THAT is why it would fail and tarnish the series good name.  The change casual gamers would demand would ruin the entire concepts behind TES.

 

Adding freedom to a game is good.  Taking it away because people are pixel whores?  Not good.

See in the search for authentisity you are sacraficing fun. 

:-(

In Elder scrolls games if you die you restart at your last save, you don't have to take 10 hours to go get all the things you had again, mine up some ore and craft some gear. 

it wouldn't be in the spirit of elder scrolls to punish the player thusly.

  Emhster

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/28/09
Posts: 920

Played: Shadowbane, WoW, WAR, AOC, Aion, SWTOR, Rift, Tera, Neverwinter, FFXIV

11/15/11 11:56:06 PM#49

I didn't follow anything about Skyrim before release. I completely forgot it was coming. I hesitated before buying it because I didn't really feel like playing single player games. Then I decided to give it a try because I didn't have anything to do.......

 

I haven't had that much fun from a game for years.

  Southpaw.Gamer

Advanced Member

Joined: 11/25/08
Posts: 578

Full Sail University - Game Design Student

11/15/11 11:59:26 PM#50
Originally posted by Laughing-man
Originally posted by Bainwalker
 

 

Sorry but I feel changing any of the features in the single player games would be a step away from what TES is about.  Freedom.  If I kill you I have the right to what is on your corpse.  Same goes if you kill me.  Items should be easily gotten with obviously some costing more than others.  

 

Again you want to try to change a core concept in TES just to suite the mainstream.  THAT is why it would fail and tarnish the series good name.  The change casual gamers would demand would ruin the entire concepts behind TES.

 

Adding freedom to a game is good.  Taking it away because people are pixel whores?  Not good.

See in the search for authentisity you are sacraficing fun. 

:-(

In Elder scrolls games if you die you restart at your last save, you don't have to take 10 hours to go get all the things you had again, mine up some ore and craft some gear. 

it wouldn't be in the spirit of elder scrolls to punish the player thusly.

Actually yes... yes it would.  You gotta remember in the spirit of full loot even mobs have to drop what you SEE them wearing.  Items would be easily gotten once you respawn by finding some bandits to kill.  Those items from NPC / mobs should obviously not be as good as the player crafted items... but it's something to get a player going again.

 

It's all about balance... which is very hard to find.  However negating a core concept because people like you can't handle it is not an option.  

 

same rules from DF would applky.

 

#1 Bank often / only carry what you need for what you are doing

 

#2. Don't wear what you can't afford to replace

 

It's very easy to survive in a sandbox full loot game.  Plan ahead.  

Full Sail University - Game Design

  Laughing-man

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/23/09
Posts: 3402

I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

11/16/11 12:05:59 AM#51
Originally posted by Bainwalker
Originally posted by Laughing-man
Originally posted by Bainwalker
 

 

Sorry but I feel changing any of the features in the single player games would be a step away from what TES is about.  Freedom.  If I kill you I have the right to what is on your corpse.  Same goes if you kill me.  Items should be easily gotten with obviously some costing more than others.  

 

Again you want to try to change a core concept in TES just to suite the mainstream.  THAT is why it would fail and tarnish the series good name.  The change casual gamers would demand would ruin the entire concepts behind TES.

 

Adding freedom to a game is good.  Taking it away because people are pixel whores?  Not good.

See in the search for authentisity you are sacraficing fun. 

:-(

In Elder scrolls games if you die you restart at your last save, you don't have to take 10 hours to go get all the things you had again, mine up some ore and craft some gear. 

it wouldn't be in the spirit of elder scrolls to punish the player thusly.

Actually yes... yes it would.  You gotta remember in the spirit of full loot even mobs have to drop what you SEE them wearing.  Items would be easily gotten once you respawn by finding some bandits to kill.  Those items from NPC / mobs should obviously not be as good as the player crafted items... but it's something to get a player going again.

 

It's all about balance... which is very hard to find.  However negating a core concept because people like you can't handle it is not an option.  

 

same rules from DF would applky.

 

#1 Bank often / only carry what you need for what you are doing

 

#2. Don't wear what you can't afford to replace

 

It's very easy to survive in a sandbox full loot game.  Plan ahead.  

Yep, again you are talking down to your audience, most of us (people reading MMO-RPG.com) are people who have played Sandbox games or at least have an idea what they are about.

I myself am an avid minecraft player, and Played UO from launch until Trammel.  So I get what you are saying.

Sorry, Hard Core death penalty stuff is what killed sandbox games.

You gotta balance risk and reward, can't just say realisim trumps all.

  eyelolled

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/13/10
Posts: 3118

I am more than some of my parts

11/16/11 12:08:30 AM#52

I really wish there was something in the MMO genre worth talking about, but everything is feeling rather stale atm.  I have to say, I think I'm on a MMORPG.com burnout. When I first joined the site, I was pretty excited about taking part in things. I signed up for beta's and was very active in the forums.  Lately however, I post once in a while and didn't even bother signing up for the beta of SWTOR. GW2 feels like an endless wait and my anticipation is starting to slide towards the thought of games even further down the road. The games that are hardly talked about.

World of Darkness has a certain captivating feel. The feeling of something you know is desirable but yet cannot see. The whisper of greatness created by the fondness for things unknown.  It's like the attraction of a well dressed woman, showing glimpses of what is hidden yet actually exposing little.

It's how I used to feel about GW2. The slow and paced reveals were like a dance of seduction, gradually exposing bit by tiny bit. Driving us insane with desire to know the truth, to know all the secrets. But where is that desire now. They have one last class to reveal, yet I know what secret is hidden so it holds no enticement.

The Secret World seemed interesting when I knew nothing but the name of the factions, and had already found a home within one of them. They had a few great trailers but that was it. A name shrouded in mystery. Now it's starting to feel like another conversation that one has had too many times before. Where is the luster? Where is the allure?

Maybe I am alone in this. Maybe it's only me feeling like I have absorbed too much, and ruined the sanctity of that which is to come. Maybe I am of a quiet few that have a passion for the unknown, the lust for discovery.  Or maybe I am echoing the same cries that others have uttered before me, and it's only now that I am learning what they have known.  Maybe the games are simply a faux-pleasure wrapped in the guise of subtle secrets and pretend rewards. A way of selling one nothing by slowing revealing it's truth over such a long duration that one forgets they have purchased nothing, and instead create the lie that it was entertainment for which we paid, not a fallacy.

 

Meh, no point in stopping now.  

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.

  Uhwop

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/20/10
Posts: 1700

11/16/11 12:19:51 AM#53
Originally posted by Cruoris

comparing the concept of MMO's to Skyrim is silly.

no matter how great Skyrim is (and it is) it would be infinitely better if it were all that it is now PLUS being an MMO.

 

Skyrim is an excellent game that failed to implement any MMO features.

 

just because a really awsome novel is written, doesent mean that movies are a bad idea.

You should explain that a little better.

Character development, harvesting, crafting, housing, cooking.

Dungeon after dungeon, with dynamic quest generation.

The only aspect of an MMO that Bethesda didn't implement was the connection to a server and other players.  Other then that they've put to shame every studio that's put out an MMO in the last 8 years or so; at least in my opinion.

Skyrim is exactly what Starvault is attempting with Mortal Online.  If they had Bethesdas financials and payrroll there would be a game very similliar to Skyrim in the MMO genre today. 

I think the only reason developers aren't really taking a shot at an MMO like Skyrim is because they're woried that there wouldn't be a big enough market to justify it.  When the largest MMO's on the market are the complete opposite of a game like Skyrim, they look at that and just assume that that's what people want.  They've been pushing the same game on us, with slight changes in graphics and setting, for over about a decade now.

Bethesda, or any company with the balls to make an MMO like skyrim, would be sitting on a game with a multimillion subscriber base.  Personally, I don't think Bethesda is dumb enough to NOT make an MMO; which I do believe they are already in the process of doing; it won't be an Elder scrolls MMO, but that doesn't mean it won't take place in Tamriel.

 

@Eyelolled, World of Darkness was shelved indeffinetly, and CCP laid off 20% of thier workers; they were probably all the devs for WoD.

 

  Wizardry

Elite Member

Joined: 8/27/04
Posts: 7235

Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

11/16/11 12:20:07 AM#54

I don't discuss it nor care much for it because the design is a single player game,much easier to pull off than a MMO.

Does this really have quality?Example buildings have insides and not all instances.Are viewing areas large or typical console smallish?

Biggest question of all,is it just another Wow type game following quest markers around?I NEVER liked hand holding in games what so ever,it detests me.I don't want arrows nor anything telling me where to go,where to jump,what level to pull ect ect.

Basically another Wow but in single player mode would be even more painful,no way could i do it .not even if someone bought the game for me.So is it open ended or painfully linear?

I miss my old days of good rpg's example the Might N magics and Wizardry series. Even Ultima was a good game for it's time,these new games all seem like they are turned out of a repeating factory line.

SO TRUTH be told,is this just the same old or not?

http://www.youtube.com/user/Napolianboo#p/u/15/rCYLLQCNc1w
Samoan Diamond

  Uhwop

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/20/10
Posts: 1700

11/16/11 12:28:00 AM#55
Originally posted by Wizardry

I don't discuss it nor care much for it because the design is a single player game,much easier to pull off than a MMO.

Does this really have quality?Example buildings have insides and not all instances.Are viewing areas large or typical console smallish?

Biggest question of all,is it just another Wow type game following quest markers around?I NEVER liked hand holding in games what so ever,it detests me.I don't want arrows nor anything telling me where to go,where to jump,what level to pull ect ect.

Basically another Wow but in single player mode would be even more painful,no way could i do it .not even if someone bought the game for me.So is it open ended or painfully linear?

I miss my old days of good rpg's example the Might N magics and Wizardry series. Even Ultima was a good game for it's time,these new games all seem like they are turned out of a repeating factory line.

SO TRUTH be told,is this just the same old or not?

Is Skyrim the same old? 

No it's not.  There's no hand holding, with the exception of markers to let you know where you have to go.  You can turn off floating objective markers so that you have to actually FIND the guy you need for a quest.  The world map has markers so that you can figure out were you're going; someone posted in another thread that they modified some .ini files and removed them.  I personally wouldn't be able to play without the markers on the map, there's simply to much space and I wouldn't like to spend several hours trying to find the entrance to a cave or a dwarven ruin concealed in a mountain. 

But then you can use the clairavoyance spell and it'll show you what way to go to find your objective as long as you're chanelling the spell.  Even with markers, I've had to use the spell.  Trying to find your way up a mountain isn't always easy.

  Teala

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 6/16/04
Posts: 7448

"Really officer, they're medicinal herbs."

11/16/11 12:32:18 AM#56
Originally posted by Wizardry

I don't discuss it nor care much for it because the design is a single player game,much easier to pull off than a MMO.

Does this really have quality?Example buildings have insides and not all instances.Are viewing areas large or typical console smallish?

Biggest question of all,is it just another Wow type game following quest markers around?I NEVER liked hand holding in games what so ever,it detests me.I don't want arrows nor anything telling me where to go,where to jump,what level to pull ect ect.

Basically another Wow but in single player mode would be even more painful,no way could i do it .not even if someone bought the game for me.So is it open ended or painfully linear?

I miss my old days of good rpg's example the Might N magics and Wizardry series. Even Ultima was a good game for it's time,these new games all seem like they are turned out of a repeating factory line.

SO TRUTH be told,is this just the same old or not?

Those old games don't hold a candle to Skyrim...sorry.    Oh and yeah I have played all those old games - so I know what I am talking about.  Skyrim is the single best, as is, right out of the box SCRPG I have ever played.    :)   I really only wish Bethesda had added just a few more things - like combat from horse back and such.  Go check out my wish list for this game over on the general gaming forum.  :)

  Teala

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 6/16/04
Posts: 7448

"Really officer, they're medicinal herbs."

11/16/11 12:34:22 AM#57
Originally posted by Uhwop
Originally posted by Wizardry

I don't discuss it nor care much for it because the design is a single player game,much easier to pull off than a MMO.

Does this really have quality?Example buildings have insides and not all instances.Are viewing areas large or typical console smallish?

Biggest question of all,is it just another Wow type game following quest markers around?I NEVER liked hand holding in games what so ever,it detests me.I don't want arrows nor anything telling me where to go,where to jump,what level to pull ect ect.

Basically another Wow but in single player mode would be even more painful,no way could i do it .not even if someone bought the game for me.So is it open ended or painfully linear?

I miss my old days of good rpg's example the Might N magics and Wizardry series. Even Ultima was a good game for it's time,these new games all seem like they are turned out of a repeating factory line.

SO TRUTH be told,is this just the same old or not?

Is Skyrim the same old? 

No it's not.  There's no hand holding, with the exception of markers to let you know where you have to go.  You can turn off floating objective markers so that you have to actually FIND the guy you need for a quest.  The world map has markers so that you can figure out were you're going; someone posted in another thread that they modified some .ini files and removed them.  I personally wouldn't be able to play without the markers on the map, there's simply to much space and I wouldn't like to spend several hours trying to find the entrance to a cave or a dwarven ruin concealed in a mountain. 

But then you can use the clairavoyance spell and it'll show you what way to go to find your objective as long as you're chanelling the spell.  Even with markers, I've had to use the spell.  Trying to find your way up a mountain isn't always easy.

OMG yes, even with the markers on the compass it is not as easy to find a place as one might expect.   During one quest I had to constantly use clairvoyance to try to figure out where to go...it isn't always so clear cut as it may seem.

 

  Khrymson

Guide

Joined: 5/21/08
Posts: 3124

11/16/11 12:35:28 AM#58
Originally posted by Teala

 I really only wish Bethesda had added just a few more things - like combat from horse back and such.  Go check out my wish list for this game over on the general gaming forum.  :)

No worries there, as the modding community will appease your entire wish list and more.  Just gotta give em a little time, but they also need the dern Construction Kit to release and soon!

  AlBQuirky

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 1/24/05
Posts: 3605

Tomorrow's just a future yesterday...

11/16/11 4:35:43 PM#59


Originally posted by Bainwalker
#3.  TES as an MMO would have to be a sandbox game with FPS controls and full loot.  Maybe 5% of you pansies would be able to handle that

This "pansy" is not in need of pixel fighting and button mashing to feel good about himself. I am not a seeker of stress in my "fun time" activities. I also have no inclination to play sandbox games for this very reason.

You can have the sandbox games.

- Al

Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
- FARGIN_WAR

  Reizla

Elite Member

Joined: 12/09/08
Posts: 3102

MMORPGs are no longer about the mass multi-user anymore *sadly*

11/16/11 4:42:59 PM#60
Originally posted by elocke
Originally posted by Teala

I think we're all so excited because Skyrim is delivering whart so many MMORPG's fail to give us players - a living breathing virtual world.

BINGO!  I don't know why this concept is so hard for MMORPG developers these days to wrap their heads around, I mean they started as worlds.  Suddenly we're being deluged with these F2P shallow lobby games or worlds the size of small islands(rift, cough, cough).  I really hope the new training program for developers is to play Skyrim first THEN come up with MMORPG ideas and designs.

Not sure this will help the development of a good MMO either. Remember that the 'play through recors' is 2h16m, and that's what the MMO developers will take as a reference then :D

Nah... Best thing we can do is wait till Bethesda will finally listen to us (MMO lovers) and make an Elder Scrolls MMO game. Now I'm very sure that THAT would indeed kill WoW ;-)

Demigoth's RPG adventures ~ My blog

AsRock 990FX Extreme3
AMD Phenom II 1090T ~3.2Ghz
GEiL 16Gb DDR3 1600Mhz
GTX660 (ASUS/EVGA) 3x HD monitor spanned 5760x1080
Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion

6 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 6 » Search