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  popinjay

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11/05/11 11:38:10 AM#41


Originally posted by Cavod


Originally posted by therain93
DCUO could be a good game, but it suffers from lack of content and really bad decision-making.

^This, right here, is how I feel too.


Bad decision making yes, lack of content?

You could say that at launch, but you can't say that anymore.

  therain93

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"Racing to endgame is like racing to the end of your vacation."

11/05/11 11:40:05 AM#42
Originally posted by popinjay

 


Originally posted by Cavod


Originally posted by therain93
DCUO could be a good game, but it suffers from lack of content and really bad decision-making.


^This, right here, is how I feel too.


Bad decision making yes, lack of content?

 

 

You could say that at launch, but you can't say that anymore.

Yes, I can actually.

  popinjay

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11/05/11 12:02:10 PM#43


Originally posted by therain93


Originally posted by popinjay
 



Originally posted by Cavod




Originally posted by therain93
DCUO could be a good game, but it suffers from lack of content and really bad decision-making.




^This, right here, is how I feel too.




Bad decision making yes, lack of content?
 
 
You could say that at launch, but you can't say that anymore.


Yes, I can actually.


True, but you'd be wrong though.


The game has quite a bit of content now. When was the last time you played it? Doh, never mind.. just read your sig.

  JudgeUK

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11/05/11 12:13:50 PM#44

This game, and others, needs to completely divorce the controls of pc away from ps3/xbox. You can tell as soon as you start to play that the developers have had to sacrifice the pc users interface to allow for the limited commands on a game controller.

This lessens the game, making it feel like a street fighter experience.

Every aspect of the game, from character creation, movement, combat, has been affected by this forced observance to the game controller limitations.

It is short term fun, in the same way that street fighter or mortal kombat are. But if the aim of this is to be a long term mmo, then more things will have to change on top of the free to play move by the developers.

 

  DaddyDark

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11/05/11 1:38:58 PM#45

Originally posted by JudgeUK

This lessens the game, making it feel like a street fighter experience.



I wouldn't compare it to the Street fighter - the controlls and overall game experience is much like you would have playing the SW Force Unleashed: lots of movement and button combos to be used for fighting.  It is not button mashing though - especially in PvP: every move has it's weaknesses, so you should carefully use them. The idea of having just 6 abilities equiped on your action bar looks ridiculous only at first - when you would get used to it, you would understand there are lots of moves you could use by button combos and that  6 special abilities are enough. Other MMOs have tons of completely unnecessary abilities used form the action bar (like 6 different heals, while you would anyway use only 2 in most cases, depending on you talent build: 1 HOT and 1 instant heal). In DC there are fewer choices to make, but they affect your play style a lot and are more meaningful - like you don't get abilities you haven't invested points into. For example in WoW you would get lots of abilities, but would use only those you have boosted up by your talents build  - in DC those 2 systems are united into the one. I believe that WoW is getting the talent system reworked in a similar way with the new panda thing comming.


  VirusDancer

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11/05/11 1:44:57 PM#46
Originally posted by DaddyDark

Originally posted by JudgeUK

This lessens the game, making it feel like a street fighter experience.


I wouldn't compare it to the Street fighter - the controlls and overall game experience is much like you would have playing the SW Force Unleashed: lots of movement and button combos to be used for fighting.  It is not button mashing though - especially in PvP: every move has it's weaknesses, so you should carefully use them. The idea of having just 6 abilities equiped on your action bar looks ridiculous only at first - when you would get used to it, you would understand there are lots of moves you could use by button combos and that  6 special abilities are enough. Other MMOs have tons of completely unnecessary abilities used form the action bar (like 6 different heals, while you would anyway use only 2 in most cases, depending on you talent build: 1 HOT and 1 instant heal). In DC there are fewer choices to make, but they affect your play style a lot and are more meaningful - like you don't get abilities you haven't invested points into. For example in WoW you would get lots of abilities, but would use only those you have boosted up by your talents build  - in DC those 2 systems are united into the one. I believe that WoW is getting the talent system reworked in a similar way with the new panda thing comming.

WoW is a MMORPG though.  DCUO is a MMOAG.  In a MMORPG, you do not have combos that you do not have on your action bar - you have the actual ability.

MMOAG:  Say you have 3 items (2 mouse buttons and an item on the action bar) - you have dozens or more options from how you combine those, whether they are taps or holds, etc.

MMORPG: Each of those options is an ability on the action bar.  You're directing the character's action, rather than taking the character's action.

I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?

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  Ozmodan

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11/05/11 1:52:55 PM#47

Soon as I saw  the 14gb download i canceled it.  Way too much of a download.

  kevjards

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11/06/11 12:06:22 PM#48

well here we are..a week since it went f2p or nearly..and i,m 5,561 in the queue on eupve server,now i dont mind being in a q but i,m curious..is there any news on if they are putting additional servers up because this is kinda stupid.all these peeps and all that possible money goin down the drain because peeps are gettin sick of waiting..anyone got any links or infor regarding this plz?


  mmodanno

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11/06/11 12:12:46 PM#49

Guys... think about it...

This is a game that was so shallow and buggy that in less then a year it from a major AAA MMO release with a very popular franchise tie-in to... well.. the nearly deserted game it is now.

Do you think all the new FtPer's are going to be here in a month?  ..or even a couple weeks?  SoE knows they have a dog of a game.  This FtP is a desperate shot to grab what money they can while the getting is good.  In a month or less, population will drop back down to near death levels.

Why would SoE spend money upgrading their servers to handle the volume now when in a few short weeks the game will drive most of the population all by itself, fixing the log in problems.  ...and SoE won't have had to spend a dime.

  popinjay

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11/06/11 12:20:18 PM#50


Originally posted by mmodanno
Guys... think about it...Okay.

This is a game that was so shallow and buggy that in less then a year it from a major AAA MMO release with a very popular franchise tie-in to... well.. the nearly deserted game it is now. Actually, it's not nearly deserted now. That's what all the hubbub is about. People want to get in and play, but due to the ..wait for it.. DEMAND.. they can't.

Do you think all the new FtPer's are going to be here in a month? Yep. It's free. People are cheapskates and like free stuff.  ..or even a couple weeks? Depending on how fast/slow they fix stuff, yep.

SoE knows they have a dog of a game.  This FtP is a desperate shot to grab what money they can while the getting is good.  In a month or less, population will drop back down to near death levels.Based on what other FTP conversions have done, you're statistically wrong.

Why would SoE spend money upgrading their servers to handle the volume now when in a few short weeks the game will drive most of the population all by itself, fixing the log in problems.  ...and SoE won't have had to spend a dime.Because they are doing well financially as a company, and FTP games tend to double (at the least) your revenue after a conversion?



  User Deleted
11/06/11 12:23:07 PM#51

Seriously mmorpg.com  could you just please focus on real news instead of FPS, PR type news again? I don't know when all this number posing started but I hate it. Also JS is talking about registrations like all p2w game do, so I don't think these are "news" more like PR don't you agree?

 

 

  BarCrow

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11/06/11 12:39:41 PM#52

I like the game. I just hate that the chat system is abysmal and that there is no way to move with the mouse. If this was made PC only how much better it likely would have been. Having the UI developed for the lowest common denominator...a game pad...hurt the PC player base severely. I love console games...but imo..an MMO should be console or PC..not both. The only game that ever worked with dual platforms was Final Fantasy XI(?). (at least to any degree of success). The chat system practically requires you to find a safe spot so ou can (esc) out and use it properly. You can't move and chat at all. Does anyone know if there is a way to map the mouse functions to another 2 keys and map movement to the mouse? I'd much rather forgo WASD movement for mouse movement and map the left and right mouse buttons to the "w" and "e" or "q" and "w".

  therain93

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11/06/11 8:28:01 PM#53
Originally posted by popinjay

 


Originally posted by therain93


Originally posted by popinjay
 



Originally posted by Cavod




Originally posted by therain93
DCUO could be a good game, but it suffers from lack of content and really bad decision-making.




^This, right here, is how I feel too.




Bad decision making yes, lack of content?
 
 
You could say that at launch, but you can't say that anymore.



Yes, I can actually.


True, but you'd be wrong though.

 


The game has quite a bit of content now. When was the last time you played it? Doh, never mind.. just read your sig.

The game launched with a dearth of content to begin with and 5 updates doesn't make up for it (although it's a decent start) -- my sig has nothing to do with it.  Free is a good price for what you get -- a box purchase and subscription was not.   Assuming the opportunity presents itself in other threads, you'll find that I'm relatively even-handed in my criticisms and commentary.

  popinjay

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11/06/11 9:34:58 PM#54


Originally posted by therain93

The game launched with a dearth of content to begin with I stated that, you're repeating it unnecessarily. We already agree; but this isn't the case now as I said.


and 5 updates doesn't make up for it (although it's a decent start)Don't look at 'updates'... that's the wrong way to look at it. Look at CONTENT.. what's actually IN the updates, lol.


-- my sig has nothing to do with it. I think your sig has everything to do with it. You're advertising a rival Hero game. That would be considered a 'conflict of interest'

Free is a good price for what you get -- a box purchase and subscription was not.   Assuming the opportunity presents itself in other threads, you'll find that I'm relatively even-handed in my criticisms and commentary. Then I'll be reading your other comments/criticisms later on. :)



  JudgeUK

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11/07/11 4:14:53 AM#55

When something goes ftp it's a no risk trial, so the rush to have a go at this isn't unexpected. Time wise, it's pretty good with a little window before upcoming launches.

it' looks like a game you can hop onto and bash somethings around with lots of mouse clicking, perfect to while away some time.

ftp will increase the numbers long term - free is free.

How many will stay? Not as many as there are now as the drop is bound to happen - time will tell.

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