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  WhiteLantern

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Joined: 1/27/10
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10/26/11 11:02:24 AM#21
Originally posted by Wizardry

What happens with games that are extremely hyped is that outlets buy quite a few Colector editions.I have always got them at the same price because my local EB games will give you the CE during the last coupel days before release because they know  they won't sell many after release.

For reason i mentioned i can only assume outlets have no return ability and have to eat all the crates of Cd's they buy.This also leads me to beleive that num,bers posted by developers on game sales can be vastly over rated.Places like EB games are huge and would buy hundreds of crates,i bet even Wallmart will buy quite a few crates of the game.

If they were able to return and the CE has a much higher value ,they wouldn't hand it over so easily at the same cost of the normal edition.The sales clerk has never given it much thought at all,they give it to me showing no care at all,so perhaps it cost them maybe another 5 bucks over the regular version.

This is a very valid point. I regularly keep track of what CEs are going for on Amazon. You can tell which ones were good sellers because the price will either stay the same or increase. The ones that didn't move well will be discounted to greater and greater amounts as the units gather dust. A good example is the Fallout: New Vegas CE. The PC version has gone up, the PS3 has stayed the same, and the 360 version is going down. Same with Arkham Asylum, 360 is going down while the PS3 version has skyrocketed. I'm currently wishing I had picked up the WAR CE when it bottomed out at 42$; it's been climbing ever since.

I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  Dunkare

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Joined: 3/05/10
Posts: 33

10/26/11 11:15:10 AM#22

nah thanks, im fine with the regular version. no need for virtual frills and furbelows nor some star wars dust trap :P

  Requiem6

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Joined: 4/06/09
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10/26/11 11:18:33 AM#23

For a game that won't be an AAA games, I really find that so much overpried.

Byeoware are so freaking greedy, I just can't believe it.

 

I really hope that the people that buy the CE are REAL FAN of Star Wars, otherwise it's just wasted money.

It's really sad to see all the people saying : "If you don't want to buy it just don't but shut up" !

While most of the people like to criticize, they don't accept when the other do it with what they like.

 

Aniway, I prefer buying the standars game, I don't need those crappy "bonus". Even less spending 70$ for a shop.

Byeoware, dissapointing, once again.

  BadSpock

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Logic be damned!

10/26/11 11:23:23 AM#24
Originally posted by precious328

Originally posted by BadSpock


Originally posted by precious328

Most people buy these Collector's Editions to stand out. It's almost like some virtual form of elitism - knowing that they have something that most player will never have.

And what is the problem with that?

Isn't it a good thing when MMOs offer more variety and unique visual options for players?

Sure, I understand the idea of "have and have nots" but it's a game right?

Did I say that it was a problem?

Hard to tell inflection from text only, your post sounded negative when I read it. Just seeking clarification for your position, offer up proper debate etc. no harm intended.

Do you feel that offering players a "virtual form of elitism" is a pro or a con?

Now Playing: D3:RoS
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  namelessbob

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10/26/11 11:26:26 AM#25

Originally posted by precious328

Not allowing the Digital Collector's to have the "exclusive" store and pet just goes to show what kind of people BioWare / EA really are.



 


Yep, incredibly smart and intelligent people who know their market. You got it on the nose.


  A.Blackloch

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Joined: 10/21/07
Posts: 827

"Choke on the smoke from my quill."

10/26/11 11:29:10 AM#26

With CE you can hang out in the VIP club, where the poor, unemployed folk with regular versions can't get into. Now that's elitism and a decent way to separate the heroes from the regular mob. :P

  Czelaw

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Joined: 8/17/09
Posts: 161

10/26/11 11:29:30 AM#27

I never get theCE's The swag never seems worth the extra 20-30 bucks. Tho I guess its nice to have a few brag items in game but not realy what Im about

  JeroKane

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10/26/11 11:31:54 AM#28
Originally posted by precious328

Most people buy these Collector's Editions to stand out. It's almost like some virtual form of elitism - knowing that they have something that most player will never have.

Not true. I thought by now history would have learned us that it's just an illusion and that those items will be available to ALL other players within a year. Two years tops!

With the latest MMO Rift from Trion, it didn't even take 7 months, before an upgrade package was made available via the Account Management Page.

Same thing will happen to SW:TOR. You can count on it!

 

  dirtyd77

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Joined: 11/28/06
Posts: 387

Your "best"! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.

10/26/11 11:33:57 AM#29

Man this whole thread feels like deja vu from the official forums.

 

For those thinking they will get this free down the line.  Best O' luck to ya... I hope you don't have your hopes set to high! The "ONLY" way that will happen is if this game tanks...  

I hope that does not happen, but anything is possible.

 

I don't really see it here in this thread but over on the official boards ... the level of self entitlement  is through the roof.

 

I sum it up like this. Post/Posters that feel they should get the CE store and other in game items down the road either free or paying a small fee

Here is another post that basically says the following.

I am either 

A. Too cheap
B. Don't have the money
C. Did not want all of the extras


But yet still feels they deserve what those who shelled out $150 will get. 

It is really starting to get sad... All of these self entitlement post !!!! 

  Puremallace

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Joined: 2/02/11
Posts: 1929

10/26/11 11:36:42 AM#30
Originally posted by JeroKane

Not true. I thought by now history would have learned us that it's just an illusion and that those items will be available to ALL other players within a year. Two years tops!

With the latest MMO Rift from Trion, it didn't even take 7 months, before an upgrade package was made available via the Account Management Page.

Same thing will happen to SW:TOR. You can count on it!

 

Trion is a fringe case I think. Bioware is more like Blizzard in my view in the fact I never see them really lowering the price of the CE like Trion did.

 

In my view Trion got it right and realized the money is not in the box, but is in the sub and basically handing the game out is the best approach.

  ThomasN7

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10/26/11 11:44:22 AM#31

An odd phenomenon ? Ok this happens to every CE that gets published. The dev and publisher or make a limited amount of CE's and as always the people that missed out still wants their hands on it. So explain, how is this a phenomenon ?

  BarCrow

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10/26/11 11:47:31 AM#32
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by precious328

Most people buy these Collector's Editions to stand out. It's almost like some virtual form of elitism - knowing that they have something that most player will never have.

Not true. I thought by now history would have learned us that it's just an illusion and that those items will be available to ALL other players within a year. Two years tops!

With the latest MMO Rift from Trion, it didn't even take 7 months, before an upgrade package was made available via the Account Management Page.

Same thing will happen to SW:TOR. You can count on it!

 

   Even though I ordered the CE ...I have to sadly agree. More than once I've ordered a game (usually from a specific store) for a particular in-game item or perk...supposedly exclusive to that game version(collector...digital..standard) and/or distributor.....only to eventually see it in the cash shop. In one case an "exclusive" item appeared 1.5 months after I recieved the "collector's" edition of the game. It's happened with STO...AOC...Fallen Earth...you name a game and it's likely happened. Lotro is famous for their seasonal events...where you grind doing sometimes fun..but mostly silly season-themed events to get special cosmetic gear or other items. They are also famous for then putting those same items you spent so much time earning....right into the LOTRO Store. I mean..I'll live...but it kind of pisses me off.

 As for Trions CE upgrade option...If I recall..I obtained the upgrade right around 1.5 weeks after launch....so the 7 month thing is overkill..lol. I remember because they gave everyone..or many people..all the perks for the early access(whether this was an error  or  to give us  a taste is unknown). Then they removed them after about a week..so I paid the $10 upgrade for the mount and extra bag slots...like a good junkie.

 

  dirtyd77

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Joined: 11/28/06
Posts: 387

Your "best"! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.

10/26/11 11:52:52 AM#33
Originally posted by BarCrow

Even though I ordered the CE ...I have to sadly agree. More than once I've ordered a game (usually from a specific store) for a particular in-game item or perk...supposedly exclusive to that game version(collector...digital..standard) and/or distributor.....only see it in the cash shop. In one case an "exclusive" item appeared 1.5 months after I recieved the "collector's" edition of the game. It's happened with STO...AOC...Fallen Earth...you name a game and it's likely happened. Lotro is famous for their seasonal events...where you grind doing sometimes fun..but mostly silly season-themed events to get special cosmetic gear or other items. They are also famous for then putting those same items you spent so much time earning....right into the LOTRO Store. I mean..I'll live...but it kind of pisses me off.

 

I agree it would piss me off as well.  However I will go back to my point that the only way the exclusive items here end up becoming available to others is if the game tanks.... 

All of the examples you gave those games, well they tanked..... 

I hope that SWTOR can avoid this fate and if it does and is the success some of us hope it is, then I doubt you will ever see any of the exclusive CE stuff available..  ala WOW

  Aeolron

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Joined: 3/24/11
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Everyones a mmo vet these days :P

10/26/11 11:55:11 AM#34
To the guy saying that swtor will not be a AAA game your out to lunch my friend, before making statements on the game, ya might want to do alittle research and actualy play the game before making those comments.

I for one, bought two CE one for me and one for the wife because this is biowares first take on mmos and I am a huge fan of bioware plus I am supporting our Canadian businesses. Worth every Pennie, and if you think the CE is too high, look at skyrims CE they don't offer nearly as much as swtor, so to all the trolls, sorry that you won't be in game and thank god for that.
  Aadien

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Posts: 227

10/26/11 11:55:59 AM#35

I got mine from the orgin on the main website.. How can i upgrade it to the CE one?

  kegtap

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Posts: 263

10/26/11 12:00:24 PM#36
Originally posted by Aadien

I got mine from the orgin on the main website.. How can i upgrade it to the CE one?

You can't! It's sold out on origin in fact it sold out on origin in a few hours. 

 

I think they should offer a second round of CEs with a diffrent statue.

I can feel your anger. This game is defenseless. Take your weapon. Strike this game down with all of your hatred, and your journey towards towards the Dark Side will be complete.

  Aadien

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10/26/11 12:03:10 PM#37

So no way for me to get CE then?

  User Deleted
10/26/11 12:03:57 PM#38
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by precious328

Most people buy these Collector's Editions to stand out. It's almost like some virtual form of elitism - knowing that they have something that most player will never have.

Not true. I thought by now history would have learned us that it's just an illusion and that those items will be available to ALL other players within a year. Two years tops!

With the latest MMO Rift from Trion, it didn't even take 7 months, before an upgrade package was made available via the Account Management Page.

Same thing will happen to SW:TOR. You can count on it!

 

And yet the original guild wars prophecies collectors edition still sells for $80+, so i guess it depends on whether or not it does well. My bet is that you wont see them again or at a marked up price.

  kegtap

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10/26/11 12:06:12 PM#39

I would think your local stores must be getting some CEs. I could not see it being an online only thing.  Have you checked any of your local stores to see what they say? 

I can feel your anger. This game is defenseless. Take your weapon. Strike this game down with all of your hatred, and your journey towards towards the Dark Side will be complete.

  BarCrow

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10/26/11 12:16:31 PM#40
Originally posted by dirtyd77
Originally posted by BarCrow

Even though I ordered the CE ...I have to sadly agree. More than once I've ordered a game (usually from a specific store) for a particular in-game item or perk...supposedly exclusive to that game version(collector...digital..standard) and/or distributor.....only see it in the cash shop. In one case an "exclusive" item appeared 1.5 months after I recieved the "collector's" edition of the game. It's happened with STO...AOC...Fallen Earth...you name a game and it's likely happened. Lotro is famous for their seasonal events...where you grind doing sometimes fun..but mostly silly season-themed events to get special cosmetic gear or other items. They are also famous for then putting those same items you spent so much time earning....right into the LOTRO Store. I mean..I'll live...but it kind of pisses me off.

 

I agree it would piss me off as well.  However I will go back to my point that the only way the exclusive items here end up becoming available to others is if the game tanks.... 

All of the examples you gave those games, well they tanked..... 

I hope that SWTOR can avoid this fate and if it does and is the success some of us hope it is, then I doubt you will ever see any of the exclusive CE stuff available..  ala WOW

     I 'll agree with you on all but two...I still don't believe LOTRO or RIFT have tanked. They both have and have had a decent population in my experiences. Not WOW numbers ..but no other game has those numbers...nor will any game likely attain such heights. Of the two..

  Turbine definitely saw the future in F2P (good or bad) .DDO and LOTRO seem to be doing fine. As far as RIFT..I think they saw what other companies did..or failed to do...and just started the cycle early. Offering trials..setting up a minor cash shop. No other MMO imo keeps the ball rolling moreso than Trion does with RIFT .Whether it's the ongoing rifts ,updates that add features and more, prompt patches/fixes or world events....always something to do . Endgame I can't comment on..because I am not an endgame addict.

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