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  Neiko

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Joined: 8/07/06
Posts: 630

10/19/11 7:17:10 PM#41
Originally posted by xS0u1zx
Originally posted by heimdall22
Originally posted by xS0u1zx

I'm sorry but I am simply in amazment and pretty surprised.    I just watched the trailer of Guild Wars 2 from their website http://www.guildwars2.com/en/.   All I have to say is, World of Warcraft version 2.

 

Now I don't say that out of hate or to troll, but while watching that video it's what was constantly screaming out to me in my mind.  It was like watching world of warcraft with a complete skin remap.    They even have the same style of classes, races, freaking enemies.  HELL even towns/cities look the same.   They got a night elf looking area with yes elves.  They got a worgan city that looks almost exactly the same as gilneas and yes it's filled with freaking worgans. 

 

I never finished watching the trailer, cause I'm laughing too much in amazement.   I just wish I knew why the hell they were copying so much from wow

Yes I know about the original Guild Wars, I never played it nor followed it and no wow was definitely far from my first mmo.  Just I would hope they could have at least made things a bit newer looking and refreshing.

 

 

I'm sorry but I am simply in amazement and pretty surprised. I've just read recipe for pancakes. All I have to say, Its "Macbeth" 2. Same letters, same language... Bah, same words even...

Theres a famous line from Monty Python sketch :

"Yes, you know, we find that nine out of ten British housewives can't tell the difference between Whizzo butter and a dead crab." Assumably, you must be in the "nine out of ten" category...

Well if 9/10 people seen it the way I did, then I guess 9/10 must be right.    Btw, as most people here what you all failed to realize is I was expressing an opinion in how a trailer appeared to me.

Yes opinions are not 100% correct, hell hardly correct at all in most cases.  But to me for the very first time seeing this game with absolutely no exposure to guild wars.  That gave me an immediate reminder of wow, now I don't mean in an extremist way but aspects greatly reminded me of it.   Yes char is different then worgan, yes the black citadel is different.   But how about we update the graphics on wow characters, fine tune a bit and you won't see much of a difference skin wise.  

As for what reminded me of gilneas was what appeared to be a castle like background which reminded me of it.  It was about 3 seconds of exposure so I can't remember details.

If you cannot remember simple details, how are you to go around on forums stating what you think is fact? Without proof, there is no backup to your discussion. Without backup to your discussion, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, or trolling.

I understand that you somehow got the impression of WoW 2.0 from the trailer. But I honestly don't see how, considering your examples (charr/capital).

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  Azntranc3

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Joined: 9/05/08
Posts: 175

10/19/11 7:17:16 PM#42

Wow, normally  I don't even know how to respond to this either... it's just......

 

I mean wow, next time I'll just watch the inception movie trailers and be like, this is the same shit as twilight or the Dark knight! I mean, they both have uses of the colour black, they both have male AND female casts, they both live on the planet earth wow my god, inception is the same as every single f*cking movie in the world.  

And I got all this just from the trailer :D Give me a pat on the back!

 

 

EDIT: On a side note, you might as well say all fantasy games are a rehash of wow.

  heimdall22

Novice Member

Joined: 3/16/11
Posts: 76

It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.

10/19/11 7:17:28 PM#43
Originally posted by xS0u1zx
Originally posted by heimdall22
Originally posted by xS0u1zx

I'm sorry but I am simply in amazment and pretty surprised.    I just watched the trailer of Guild Wars 2 from their website http://www.guildwars2.com/en/.   All I have to say is, World of Warcraft version 2.

 

Now I don't say that out of hate or to troll, but while watching that video it's what was constantly screaming out to me in my mind.  It was like watching world of warcraft with a complete skin remap.    They even have the same style of classes, races, freaking enemies.  HELL even towns/cities look the same.   They got a night elf looking area with yes elves.  They got a worgan city that looks almost exactly the same as gilneas and yes it's filled with freaking worgans. 

 

I never finished watching the trailer, cause I'm laughing too much in amazement.   I just wish I knew why the hell they were copying so much from wow

Yes I know about the original Guild Wars, I never played it nor followed it and no wow was definitely far from my first mmo.  Just I would hope they could have at least made things a bit newer looking and refreshing.

 

 

I'm sorry but I am simply in amazement and pretty surprised. I've just read recipe for pancakes. All I have to say, Its "Macbeth" 2. Same letters, same language... Bah, same words even...

Theres a famous line from Monty Python sketch :

"Yes, you know, we find that nine out of ten British housewives can't tell the difference between Whizzo butter and a dead crab." Assumably, you must be in the "nine out of ten" category...

Well if 9/10 people seen it the way I did, then I guess 9/10 must be right.    Btw, as most people here what you all failed to realize is I was expressing an opinion in how a trailer appeared to me.

Yes opinions are not 100% correct, hell hardly correct at all in most cases.  But to me for the very first time seeing this game with absolutely no exposure to guild wars.  That gave me an immediate reminder of wow, now I don't mean in an extremist way but aspects greatly reminded me of it.   Yes char is different then worgan, yes the black citadel is different.   But how about we update the graphics on wow characters, fine tune a bit and you won't see much of a difference skin wise.  

As for what reminded me of gilneas was what appeared to be a castle like background which reminded me of it.  It was about 3 seconds of exposure so I can't remember details.

I understand. You have just made your opinion based on what you have seen, without doing any research. Thats fair enough. Let me please tell you what is going to be different (almost copied from my other post).

1) Dynamic combat instead of simple tab targeting. Dodging, swapping skill with swapping weapons, synergies of cross - class skills, falling down instead of dying combat etc..

2) Alt - friendly, solo players friendly. - Never leveling up in same environment because of...

3) Dynamic events - Consequences of win or fail, no more grind of same spots all over again or fetch me x items, kill x monsters etc. You fight with monsters that actually do something, not walks aimlessly all around and get respawned

4) No more holy trinity. At all. - True implementation of "bring player, not the class" philosophy

5) No more  - Raid or you are second class citizen. That almost gives me goosebumps. At last I may play any time I like, as long as I like and I can still be competitive. Like in Diablo, for lack of better comparison

6) No more timesinks, no more treadmill - Looks like Anet is trying their best to cut down everything, that is boring in mmos - Travel, waiting for the group to form up, leveling that actually is boring, long tutorials, etc.

7) No shared loot - No more argues, no more ninjas, no more jelousy, no more luck factor, no more running same thing over and over again, cause you need that goddamn trinket.

I may come up with another reasons, but that alone pretty much nails it for me

Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone elses opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation

  Celcius

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/20/04
Posts: 970

10/19/11 7:18:18 PM#44

I am actually quite amazed that you played other MMOs beside WoW. I mean, everything is a reskin of everything else by your logic. WoW is EQ skinned over because it has some of the same races obviously. Battlefield 3 is Call of Duty skinned over also. Starcraft 2 is a reskin of Command and Conquer...

You have to be blind to not see the differences between Guild Wars 2 and WoW. I mean hell, the art direction is VERY different in and of itself.

  xS0u1zx

Novice Member

Joined: 1/05/07
Posts: 215

 
OP  10/19/11 7:19:18 PM#45
Originally posted by Neiko
Originally posted by xS0u1zx
Originally posted by heimdall22
Originally posted by xS0u1zx

I'm sorry but I am simply in amazment and pretty surprised.    I just watched the trailer of Guild Wars 2 from their website http://www.guildwars2.com/en/.   All I have to say is, World of Warcraft version 2.

 

Now I don't say that out of hate or to troll, but while watching that video it's what was constantly screaming out to me in my mind.  It was like watching world of warcraft with a complete skin remap.    They even have the same style of classes, races, freaking enemies.  HELL even towns/cities look the same.   They got a night elf looking area with yes elves.  They got a worgan city that looks almost exactly the same as gilneas and yes it's filled with freaking worgans. 

 

I never finished watching the trailer, cause I'm laughing too much in amazement.   I just wish I knew why the hell they were copying so much from wow

Yes I know about the original Guild Wars, I never played it nor followed it and no wow was definitely far from my first mmo.  Just I would hope they could have at least made things a bit newer looking and refreshing.

 

 

I'm sorry but I am simply in amazement and pretty surprised. I've just read recipe for pancakes. All I have to say, Its "Macbeth" 2. Same letters, same language... Bah, same words even...

Theres a famous line from Monty Python sketch :

"Yes, you know, we find that nine out of ten British housewives can't tell the difference between Whizzo butter and a dead crab." Assumably, you must be in the "nine out of ten" category...

Well if 9/10 people seen it the way I did, then I guess 9/10 must be right.    Btw, as most people here what you all failed to realize is I was expressing an opinion in how a trailer appeared to me.

Yes opinions are not 100% correct, hell hardly correct at all in most cases.  But to me for the very first time seeing this game with absolutely no exposure to guild wars.  That gave me an immediate reminder of wow, now I don't mean in an extremist way but aspects greatly reminded me of it.   Yes char is different then worgan, yes the black citadel is different.   But how about we update the graphics on wow characters, fine tune a bit and you won't see much of a difference skin wise.  

As for what reminded me of gilneas was what appeared to be a castle like background which reminded me of it.  It was about 3 seconds of exposure so I can't remember details.

If you cannot remember simple details, how are you to go around on forums stating what you think is fact? Without proof, there is no backup to your discussion. Without backup to your discussion, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, or trolling.

I understand that you somehow got the impression of WoW 2.0 from the trailer. But I honestly don't see how, considering your examples (charr/capital).


Btw, I have been pretty clear that what I said was based on opinion.   I shouldn't have to write a disclaimer stating it when I post.    No where did I say anything I said was a fact.

  graham187

Novice Member

Joined: 8/29/05
Posts: 20

10/19/11 7:20:03 PM#46

Who watches 1/2 a trailer then decides whether or not a game is not only something for them to not consider, but decides to post that it shouldn't be considered by others because it is the same as another game? What a ridiculous post.

  xS0u1zx

Novice Member

Joined: 1/05/07
Posts: 215

 
OP  10/19/11 7:22:12 PM#47
Originally posted by Celcius

I am actually quite amazed that you played other MMOs beside WoW. I mean, everything is a reskin of everything else by your logic. WoW is EQ skinned over because it has some of the same races obviously. Battlefield 3 is Call of Duty skinned over also. Starcraft 2 is a reskin of Command and Conquer...

You have to be blind to not see the differences between Guild Wars 2 and WoW. I mean hell, the art direction is VERY different in and of itself.

I started playing Mmo's with conquer online a long time ago, from there I moved on to eudemons online, eve online, wow, and tried countless others.   The ones I listed were the only ones that stuck for any duration of time about 1 year to 5 years.  Yes leaving and coming back on occasion but overall I stick with a game I play long term.

I've tried dozens with less then 6 months of playtime each.

  xS0u1zx

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Joined: 1/05/07
Posts: 215

 
OP  10/19/11 7:23:12 PM#48
Originally posted by graham187

Who watches 1/2 a trailer then decides whether or not a game is not only something for them to not consider, but decides to post that it shouldn't be considered by others because it is the same as another game? What a ridiculous post.

All of what you said is based on your personal assumption.   No where did I state that it affected my view of the game, I stated I was just surprised.  Secondly I did not state at all that people should change their consideration to play it.  

  gestalt11

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Joined: 5/17/06
Posts: 6280

10/19/11 7:24:36 PM#49

To OP:

Um ... ok.  The analogy isn't even close to holding.  What GW2 class is analogous to the WoW healing classes?

 

I mean I have seen some stretches before, but you musta been doing yoga for years to stretch it out this far. 

  heimdall22

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Joined: 3/16/11
Posts: 76

It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.

10/19/11 7:30:07 PM#50
Originally posted by xS0u1zx
Originally posted by graham187

Who watches 1/2 a trailer then decides whether or not a game is not only something for them to not consider, but decides to post that it shouldn't be considered by others because it is the same as another game? What a ridiculous post.

All of what you said is based on your personal assumption.   No where did I state that it affected my view of the game, I stated I was just surprised.  Secondly I did not state at all that people should change their consideration to play it.  

Few posts earlier I denoted some objective differences between both games. It isnt my personal assumption. Games either have shared loot or don't. That isn't subjective statement. That's objective fact. Or at least as close to objectivity as possible.

Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone elses opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation

  xS0u1zx

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Joined: 1/05/07
Posts: 215

 
OP  10/19/11 7:31:37 PM#51
Originally posted by heimdall22
Originally posted by xS0u1zx
Originally posted by graham187

Who watches 1/2 a trailer then decides whether or not a game is not only something for them to not consider, but decides to post that it shouldn't be considered by others because it is the same as another game? What a ridiculous post.

All of what you said is based on your personal assumption.   No where did I state that it affected my view of the game, I stated I was just surprised.  Secondly I did not state at all that people should change their consideration to play it.  

Few posts earlier I denoted some objective differences between both games. It isnt my personal assumption. Games either have shared loot or don't. That isn't subjective statement. That's objective fact. Or at least as close to objectivity as possible.

Yes I did read them and yes they are in the back of my mind when it comes to decide whether to buy the game or not.   Of course your statements aren't going to be the absolute decision maker but going with what you said peaked more interest in me looking more into the game.

  Majinash

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Joined: 4/11/08
Posts: 1343

10/19/11 7:33:16 PM#52
Originally posted by xS0u1zx

  It was like watching world of warcraft with a complete skin remap.  

 

 it's not the game play that reminded me of it.  It was the skins

Wait, what?  I feel like there is a problem here somewhere... if only I could put my finger on it.

Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.

  eycel

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Joined: 4/15/06
Posts: 1339

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10/19/11 7:35:20 PM#53

never once thought that my self although guildwars 2 ranks #1 on my radar over any game in the next decade to buy.

Only thing Id buy before it would maybee be SWG PRE-CU recelebration monster mash with CryEngine 3 engine and new content added into it PRE-CU style.

  claytos

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10/19/11 7:37:02 PM#54

Actually the OP is not the only one to mix up wow and gw2. 2 of my friends(wow players) didn't know a thing about gw2 and when they watched the manifesto they compared charr/worgen   Sylvari(old desing)/elf   Asura/gnome(because of the size maybe?)

 

But starting a thread about your first impression after watching 30 seconds of a trailer is just stupid trolling.

  skulljoe

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10/19/11 7:38:05 PM#55
Originally posted by xS0u1zx

They got a worgan city that looks almost exactly the same as gilneas and yes it's filled with freaking worgans. 

 

That city doesnt look like gilneas, it looks more like ironforge  ::trollvictory::

  heimdall22

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10/19/11 7:38:11 PM#56

Btw, I strongly reccomend that article about GW2. It may give you quite good impression how's the game like and how it differs from other MMOs:

http://tap-repeatedly.com/2011/09/29/impressions-guild-wars-2/#more-17489 

 

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  Neiko

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10/19/11 7:40:02 PM#57
Originally posted by xS0u1zx
Originally posted by Neiko
Originally posted by xS0u1zx
Originally posted by heimdall22
Originally posted by xS0u1zx

I'm sorry but I am simply in amazment and pretty surprised.    I just watched the trailer of Guild Wars 2 from their website http://www.guildwars2.com/en/.   All I have to say is, World of Warcraft version 2.

 

Now I don't say that out of hate or to troll, but while watching that video it's what was constantly screaming out to me in my mind.  It was like watching world of warcraft with a complete skin remap.    They even have the same style of classes, races, freaking enemies.  HELL even towns/cities look the same.   They got a night elf looking area with yes elves.  They got a worgan city that looks almost exactly the same as gilneas and yes it's filled with freaking worgans. 

 

I never finished watching the trailer, cause I'm laughing too much in amazement.   I just wish I knew why the hell they were copying so much from wow

Yes I know about the original Guild Wars, I never played it nor followed it and no wow was definitely far from my first mmo.  Just I would hope they could have at least made things a bit newer looking and refreshing.

 

 

I'm sorry but I am simply in amazement and pretty surprised. I've just read recipe for pancakes. All I have to say, Its "Macbeth" 2. Same letters, same language... Bah, same words even...

Theres a famous line from Monty Python sketch :

"Yes, you know, we find that nine out of ten British housewives can't tell the difference between Whizzo butter and a dead crab." Assumably, you must be in the "nine out of ten" category...

Well if 9/10 people seen it the way I did, then I guess 9/10 must be right.    Btw, as most people here what you all failed to realize is I was expressing an opinion in how a trailer appeared to me.

Yes opinions are not 100% correct, hell hardly correct at all in most cases.  But to me for the very first time seeing this game with absolutely no exposure to guild wars.  That gave me an immediate reminder of wow, now I don't mean in an extremist way but aspects greatly reminded me of it.   Yes char is different then worgan, yes the black citadel is different.   But how about we update the graphics on wow characters, fine tune a bit and you won't see much of a difference skin wise.  

As for what reminded me of gilneas was what appeared to be a castle like background which reminded me of it.  It was about 3 seconds of exposure so I can't remember details.

If you cannot remember simple details, how are you to go around on forums stating what you think is fact? Without proof, there is no backup to your discussion. Without backup to your discussion, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, or trolling.

I understand that you somehow got the impression of WoW 2.0 from the trailer. But I honestly don't see how, considering your examples (charr/capital).


Btw, I have been pretty clear that what I said was based on opinion.   I shouldn't have to write a disclaimer stating it when I post.    No where did I say anything I said was a fact.

I was going to make a complete thought out post in rebute, but I'm done. It isn't worth it. 1/10 for making me bite.

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  xS0u1zx

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OP  10/19/11 7:40:19 PM#58
Originally posted by skulljoe
Originally posted by xS0u1zx

They got a worgan city that looks almost exactly the same as gilneas and yes it's filled with freaking worgans. 

 

That city doesnt look like gilneas, it looks more like ironforge  ::trollvictory::

That actually made me laugh, pictured that stupid troll dad meme after I read that.

  greenie224

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"Not all that wander are lost" -JRR Tolkien

10/19/11 7:44:24 PM#59
Originally posted by xS0u1zx

 They got a night elf looking area with yes elves.  They got a worgan city that looks almost exactly the same as gilneas and yes it's filled with freaking worgans. 


 

 

I hate to burst your bubble OP, but Blizzard didn't create the elf.. so yes, you should expect elves in a fantasy MMO.. Also those "worgen" you are referring to are called Charr and are unique to the GW franchise. I can also attest to the fact that the cities do not even come close to resembleing the cities in WoW that you are referring to.

 

I have a feeling OP is trolling..

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  jadedlevir

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10/19/11 7:45:24 PM#60

Wow didn't invent fantasy, so I fail to see how gw2 using traditonal fantasy aspects in there game (art and lore mind you) means it's wow 2.0. The so called "worgen buildings" are based on actual architecture btw, wow didn't invent that either.( I couldn't even find what buildings you were refering, but thought I'd throw that in there).

Calling worgens charr  shows you don't know much about the lore, but none of this fantasy stuff matters, considering the game has much different objectives and mechanics.

 

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