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  xenom

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10/07/11 3:48:18 PM#41

wow's dev team has no more fire burning, no more zest for action if you ask me...when you just look at what rift is patching in what timeframe i sure as hell think trion's team has all that on 110% atm. if this keeps that way i think rift will not go f2p or anything but keep on growing big time. swtor still also will have to beat a dynamic world i for one would not want to miss in my future games.




the quality & time trion delivers stuff is just amazing and if they keep this up while blizz i still slow (remember them stating they will patch faster a while back back - basically admitting that they learned this from rift hard time :O)




i dunno what will happen :) i for one just couldn't go back to the stale and static world of wow even tho i just play themepark games just in between or besides more sandboxy games.




but who are we to judge and forsee :)




 





 




 

  mindw0rk

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10/07/11 3:53:59 PM#42

RIFT is almost dead already, what are they talking about?

  Leviathonlx

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10/07/11 4:09:05 PM#43







Originally posted by xenom



wow's dev team has no more fire burning, no more zest for action if you ask me...when you just look at what rift is patching in what timeframe i sure as hell think trion's team has all that on 110% atm. if this keeps that way i think rift will not go f2p or anything but keep on growing big time. swtor still also will have to beat a dynamic world i for one would not want to miss in my future games.


the quality & time trion delivers stuff is just amazing and if they keep this up while blizz i still slow (remember them stating they will patch faster a while back back - basically admitting that they learned this from rift hard time :O)


i dunno what will happen :) i for one just couldn't go back to the stale and static world of wow even tho i just play themepark games just in between or besides more sandboxy games.


but who are we to judge and forsee :)



 


I always like these 'Rift patches a lot' type posts. WoW released a ton of patches in it's first year too. Know why? Since when a MMO is being developed they have a TON of content half done internally and use that content as the content that will be patched in over the next year. If by this time next year they are still releasing full out content patches at their rate (not just some minor thing but a full out content patch) then you'll have a case.


  User Deleted
10/07/11 4:19:33 PM#44
Originally posted by mindw0rk

RIFT is almost dead already, what are they talking about?

Im playing on what says is a medium pop server and I see people all times of day and evening so im not so sure its dead. More to topic, Blizz isnt scared of anything and I would guess they feel no need to respond to the "mice that roar".  TOR? I look for a huge launch, lots of bugs, probably some  crashes and half the players have left within 6 months but still have enough subs to maintain the game. Rift will still have players and WOW will still be the bull of the woods.

 

  Draemos

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10/07/11 4:25:09 PM#45
Originally posted by Yuui

The guy is right. 


 


They have nothing to fear from TOR. in fact their current marketing strategy will work just fine with the "Wow: Scifi version".

 

Going to disagree.  The only reason Rift has any population of note is because of the vast number of WoW exiles that are looking for the next big thing.  Rift is literally the "other" fantasy version of WoW, except not as good.

Rift is a holdover game, and SWTOR is likely to gouge that population more heavily than any other.

  Abdar

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10/07/11 4:31:39 PM#46

Rift was a filler game from people who were bored for WoW, which I do think SWTOR will be to a large extent as well. People are chomping at the bit for something new, which neither is really providing.

  blueturtle13

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10/07/11 4:32:55 PM#47

I love Rift. I do not care what numbers are thrown around. I could care less about anything other than the time I have when I am logged in. I have a great time and just resubbed for another 6 months. It is not a perfect game but I enjoy my time.

  Golelorn

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10/07/11 4:34:50 PM#48

I doubt any one believes this.

  EvilChemist

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10/07/11 4:35:45 PM#49
Originally posted by Rusty715
Originally posted by mindw0rk

RIFT is almost dead already, what are they talking about?

Im playing on what says is a medium pop server and I see people all times of day and evening so im not so sure its dead. More to topic, Blizz isnt scared of anything and I would guess they feel no need to respond to the "mice that roar".  TOR? I look for a huge launch, lots of bugs, probably some  crashes and half the players have left within 6 months but still have enough subs to maintain the game. Rift will still have players and WOW will still be the bull of the woods.

 

As much as I'm not a TOR nuthugger (just ask Badspock) I think u've just grossly underestimated it. There is a good chance TOR will eat rift alive. I don't know rifts sub numbers as of recently but from what I've heard, they're not very impressive therefore not really a logical reason to be so confident about its survival.

I mean, the last time I remember hearing anything about rift was because they dropped the price of their game to $20 or something. Seems like a desperate tactic, did it boost sales and subs?

"LOL"

  blueturtle13

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"Have fun storming the castle!"

10/07/11 4:42:04 PM#50
Originally posted by EvilChemist
Originally posted by Rusty715
Originally posted by mindw0rk

RIFT is almost dead already, what are they talking about?

Im playing on what says is a medium pop server and I see people all times of day and evening so im not so sure its dead. More to topic, Blizz isnt scared of anything and I would guess they feel no need to respond to the "mice that roar".  TOR? I look for a huge launch, lots of bugs, probably some  crashes and half the players have left within 6 months but still have enough subs to maintain the game. Rift will still have players and WOW will still be the bull of the woods.

 

As much as I'm not a TOR nuthugger (just ask Badspock) I think u've just grossly underestimated it. There is a good chance TOR will eat rift alive. I don't know rifts sub numbers as of recently but from what I've heard, they're not very impressive therefore not really a logical reason to be so confident about its survival.

I mean, the last time I remember hearing anything about rift was because they dropped the price of their game to $20 or something. Seems like a desperate tactic, did it boost sales and subs?

 http://www.gamestop.com/pc/games/rift/78581

  tank017

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10/07/11 4:42:07 PM#51
Eh..

I see Rift as one of those little fish that clings to the much larger fish(wow).Id say they are a small threat to wow .
  Icewhite

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10/07/11 4:44:19 PM#52
Originally posted by Dracondis

WoW is losing steam on its own, not because of any pathetic upstarts like Rift.

Well, technically WoW is losing steam because of its age, as is normal in this market.

If those players move to Rift, and then on to the next new thing (TOR and then GW2) six months later, that's Rift's failure, not anyone else's.  If you're confident that you can nail down a majority of the transient game-homeless before the Next Big Thing picks them off, then feel free to talk big, Trion.

But unless you act fast and act Big--those transients are going to keep moving.  This narrow window of opportunity is Trion's only chance to nail down as many of those players as they can.

Less chest-thumping and more content release is in order.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  dougmysticey

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10/07/11 4:46:24 PM#53
Originally posted by mindw0rk

RIFT is almost dead already, what are they talking about?

 Actually you are way off base. RIFT is doing quite well.

  blueturtle13

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"Have fun storming the castle!"

10/07/11 4:46:55 PM#54
Originally posted by mindw0rk

RIFT is almost dead already, what are they talking about?

 http://www.riftserverstatus.com/

not true

  User Deleted
10/07/11 4:48:25 PM#55
Originally posted by EvilChemist

 

As much as I'm not a TOR nuthugger (just ask Badspock) I think u've just grossly underestimated it. There is a good chance TOR will eat rift alive. I don't know rifts sub numbers as of recently but from what I've heard, they're not very impressive therefore not really a logical reason to be so confident about its survival.

I mean, the last time I remember hearing anything about rift was because they dropped the price of their game to $20 or something. Seems like a desperate tactic, did it boost sales and subs?

I dont know. The general consensus about Rift was that it would attract WOW burnouts, like myself, which it may have done. Im wondering how many WOW players have the patience for the cut scenes that, from what I understand, will be used quite often in TOR.  Even in LOTRO, I was always the last guy in the followship to come out of the instance because I liked to watch the cut scene and learn more of the story :)  In general most people skipped that and went on. If the mature player base LOTRO, at least used to have,didnt have the patience for them,  im not sure the WOW crowd will be to enthused about the heavy use of such scenes. Its all conjecture on my part, and ive been wrong before but I think there is going to be some disappointed people after the TOR launch. Some of us will play it, perhaps, and find some value in it but the hardcore "nuthuggers" (lol I like that) I think are going to be in for a rude awakening.

  User Deleted
10/07/11 4:53:35 PM#56
Originally posted by Rusty715
Originally posted by EvilChemist

 

As much as I'm not a TOR nuthugger (just ask Badspock) I think u've just grossly underestimated it. There is a good chance TOR will eat rift alive. I don't know rifts sub numbers as of recently but from what I've heard, they're not very impressive therefore not really a logical reason to be so confident about its survival.

I mean, the last time I remember hearing anything about rift was because they dropped the price of their game to $20 or something. Seems like a desperate tactic, did it boost sales and subs?

I dont know. The general consensus about Rift was that it would attract WOW burnouts, like myself, which it may have done. Im wondering how many WOW players have the patience for the cut scenes that, from what I understand, will be used quite often in TOR.  Even in LOTRO, I was always the last guy in the followship to come out of the instance because I liked to watch the cut scene and learn more of the story :)  In general most people skipped that and went on. If the mature player base LOTRO, at least used to have,didnt have the patience for them,  im not sure the WOW crowd will be to enthused about the heavy use of such scenes. Its all conjecture on my part, and ive been wrong before but I think there is going to be some disappointed people after the TOR launch. Some of us will play it, perhaps, and find some value in it but the hardcore "nuthuggers" (lol I like that) I think are going to be in for a rude awakening.

When it came to LOTRO everything had to be read when it came to quest (I never made it passed 20 so my knowlege is limited) While in TOR you have a Bioware story telling excperiance.

 

I have yet to beat Morrowind because of the lack of VO when compared to Oblivion. AOC was concidered a fun game until level 20 when the VO stopped and a lot of people quit.

  User Deleted
10/07/11 4:56:43 PM#57
Originally posted by Snaylor47
Originally posted by Rusty715
Originally posted by EvilChemist

 

As much as I'm not a TOR nuthugger (just ask Badspock) I think u've just grossly underestimated it. There is a good chance TOR will eat rift alive. I don't know rifts sub numbers as of recently but from what I've heard, they're not very impressive therefore not really a logical reason to be so confident about its survival.

I mean, the last time I remember hearing anything about rift was because they dropped the price of their game to $20 or something. Seems like a desperate tactic, did it boost sales and subs?

I dont know. The general consensus about Rift was that it would attract WOW burnouts, like myself, which it may have done. Im wondering how many WOW players have the patience for the cut scenes that, from what I understand, will be used quite often in TOR.  Even in LOTRO, I was always the last guy in the followship to come out of the instance because I liked to watch the cut scene and learn more of the story :)  In general most people skipped that and went on. If the mature player base LOTRO, at least used to have,didnt have the patience for them,  im not sure the WOW crowd will be to enthused about the heavy use of such scenes. Its all conjecture on my part, and ive been wrong before but I think there is going to be some disappointed people after the TOR launch. Some of us will play it, perhaps, and find some value in it but the hardcore "nuthuggers" (lol I like that) I think are going to be in for a rude awakening.

When it came to LOTRO everything had to be read when it came to quest (I never made it passed 20 so my knowlege is limited) While in TOR you have a Bioware story telling excperiance.

 

I have yet to beat Morrowind because of the lack of VO when compared to Oblivion. AOC was concidered a fun game until level 20 when the VO stopped and a lot of people quit.

No. The book quests always had cut scenes you could watch and most skipped them.

  User Deleted
10/07/11 5:00:16 PM#58
Originally posted by Rusty715
Originally posted by Snaylor47
Originally posted by Rusty715
Originally posted by EvilChemist

 

As much as I'm not a TOR nuthugger (just ask Badspock) I think u've just grossly underestimated it. There is a good chance TOR will eat rift alive. I don't know rifts sub numbers as of recently but from what I've heard, they're not very impressive therefore not really a logical reason to be so confident about its survival.

I mean, the last time I remember hearing anything about rift was because they dropped the price of their game to $20 or something. Seems like a desperate tactic, did it boost sales and subs?

I dont know. The general consensus about Rift was that it would attract WOW burnouts, like myself, which it may have done. Im wondering how many WOW players have the patience for the cut scenes that, from what I understand, will be used quite often in TOR.  Even in LOTRO, I was always the last guy in the followship to come out of the instance because I liked to watch the cut scene and learn more of the story :)  In general most people skipped that and went on. If the mature player base LOTRO, at least used to have,didnt have the patience for them,  im not sure the WOW crowd will be to enthused about the heavy use of such scenes. Its all conjecture on my part, and ive been wrong before but I think there is going to be some disappointed people after the TOR launch. Some of us will play it, perhaps, and find some value in it but the hardcore "nuthuggers" (lol I like that) I think are going to be in for a rude awakening.

When it came to LOTRO everything had to be read when it came to quest (I never made it passed 20 so my knowlege is limited) While in TOR you have a Bioware story telling excperiance.

 

I have yet to beat Morrowind because of the lack of VO when compared to Oblivion. AOC was concidered a fun game until level 20 when the VO stopped and a lot of people quit.

No. The book quests always had cut scenes you could watch and most skipped them.

Did you get to make choices that effected your character in the long run? Or beyond the Accept/Cancle optoins?

  User Deleted
10/07/11 5:01:49 PM#59
Originally posted by Snaylor47
Originally posted by Rusty715
Originally posted by Snaylor47
Originally posted by Rusty715
Originally posted by EvilChemist

 

As much as I'm not a TOR nuthugger (just ask Badspock) I think u've just grossly underestimated it. There is a good chance TOR will eat rift alive. I don't know rifts sub numbers as of recently but from what I've heard, they're not very impressive therefore not really a logical reason to be so confident about its survival.

I mean, the last time I remember hearing anything about rift was because they dropped the price of their game to $20 or something. Seems like a desperate tactic, did it boost sales and subs?

I dont know. The general consensus about Rift was that it would attract WOW burnouts, like myself, which it may have done. Im wondering how many WOW players have the patience for the cut scenes that, from what I understand, will be used quite often in TOR.  Even in LOTRO, I was always the last guy in the followship to come out of the instance because I liked to watch the cut scene and learn more of the story :)  In general most people skipped that and went on. If the mature player base LOTRO, at least used to have,didnt have the patience for them,  im not sure the WOW crowd will be to enthused about the heavy use of such scenes. Its all conjecture on my part, and ive been wrong before but I think there is going to be some disappointed people after the TOR launch. Some of us will play it, perhaps, and find some value in it but the hardcore "nuthuggers" (lol I like that) I think are going to be in for a rude awakening.

When it came to LOTRO everything had to be read when it came to quest (I never made it passed 20 so my knowlege is limited) While in TOR you have a Bioware story telling excperiance.

 

I have yet to beat Morrowind because of the lack of VO when compared to Oblivion. AOC was concidered a fun game until level 20 when the VO stopped and a lot of people quit.

No. The book quests always had cut scenes you could watch and most skipped them.

Did you get to make choices that effected your character in the long run? Or beyond the Accept/Cancle optoins?

I hope your game is everything you hope it to be. But I doubt it.

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10/07/11 5:03:11 PM#60
Originally posted by Abdar

Rift was a filler game from people who were bored for WoW, which I do think SWTOR will be to a large extent as well. People are chomping at the bit for something new, which neither is really providing.

 

Its good that you kept your promise of being the mouthpiece of the "people" ...

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