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  BarCrow

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9/21/11 3:50:01 PM#121
Originally posted by Draemos

They screwed up by hyping the September weekend beta tests and then not delivering.  That's what pushed my fatigue level into overdrive.

Well...they delivered the first one because I was in it. I see what you mean though. I think they underestimated the quantity of input and are quickly but efficiently trying to create a decent updated client. Hopefully the next one will be even better and with more invites. I've already recieved an email advising me to expect another beta invite after they finish the new client.

  Darkholme

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9/21/11 3:51:07 PM#122
Originally posted by Draemos

They screwed up by hyping the September weekend beta tests and then not delivering.  That's what pushed my fatigue level into overdrive.

I guarantee you that there are a lot of people that are reacting the same way. I also guarantee you that even if they had continued the September beta weekeds as planned and people had been passed over and not invited they would be QQing just as much as they are now about how the game is failing, etc. In other words, while granted they announced this game about 8-12 months too early, the vast majority of the crying and venom is from simply not being able to get a free try at the game yet via betas... something that not one person is entitled to.

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  waynejr2

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9/21/11 3:53:05 PM#123
Originally posted by Kyleran
I guess because I really never bought into the hype for this title, haven't bothered to read up on it I'm not suffering from any sort of fatigue for it. I agree with those who want it to release when Bioware is satisfied that it is ready and not a moment before.

Right now Spring 2012 would be my guess but does't really matter to me.

I'm beyond the hype it appears.

*Kyleran is granted the +100 Resist Hype Buff*

*CRITICAL Result:  Permanent Effect!*

  Terminus-Est

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9/21/11 3:56:29 PM#124

How can fatigue be setting in when most of us have never played it?

  Distopia

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9/21/11 3:58:33 PM#125
Originally posted by Terminus-Est

How can fatigue be setting in when most of us have never played it?

The article is about fatigue set in from not having played it.

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  monarc333

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9/21/11 3:58:40 PM#126
Originally posted by aesperus
Originally posted by shinobi234

I Dont think so guild wars two star wars tor have the same ideas story content. The only differents is guild wars 2 is buy to play and star wars tor is pay to play plus i dont think any loseing will be going on sounds like ot me your fanboy. I think these two games will do fine they both good. Star wars has its fans and so does guild wars two both games will do fine.

Just stop. The fanboy / hater spitting has been plaid out for months. Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean you should blatantly go insulting them. Not to mention that it looks like, here, you are completely misunderstanding his point. I'd normally agree that the two games are not competing with one another (at least not directly). However, if EA waits to release TOR at around the same time as GW2, then they will be.

Only one has a sub, so players can enjoy both, but if they launch at around the same time, it's going to force players to devote more time to one game or the other. Maybe EA wants this, but it puts a huge risk on the longevity on a subscription based game. The smarter thing (if the game is indeed ready) is to release the game sooner, and get players invested in a subscription and updated content. Otherwise it becomes a battle over who has the better new car smell.

- To answer the OP, I would say that yes, fatigue is setting in. Personally, I've been going through cycles of getting excited or dissapointed by this title. It doesn't offer a ton of new things from the traditional MMO, but then again I did enjoy Rift for a time. However, I'd have to agree that if this game drags on passed the end of 2011; there is about a 99% chance I'm going to cancel my preorder, and play BF3, Skyrim, Torchlight 2,or a number of the other amazing AAA titles coming out which don't require a subscription. I've been burnt by quite a few MMOs (and I know I'm not alone on this), and i'm getting tired of throwing money away needlessly.

 lol thanks man, you got the point.

  Elikal

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9/21/11 4:11:03 PM#127
Originally posted by Corehaven

Some of these companies really need to learn that a big part of hype is generated when something is "new".   A new game is announced and everyone gets excited and wants details.  Then they want new details.  And later, even more new details.  New is exciting. 

 

But some of these developers need to learn that they should just keep a lid on it until closer to release.  Wouldnt it be great to hear about a new Star Wars mmo made by Bioware of all developters and not only that but the game will be coming out in a few months?  NEATO! 

 

But see thats not the case here.  Lets announce the game years before it releases so that by the time it does, people are already half burned out on the idea.   Its pointless.  If they had announced the game just a year ago for instance, everyone would be hyped still.  

 

Its one thing I sort of like about Bethesda.  One minute you had no idea what was going on and the next?  Bam.  We're releasing a new game and it should be out in less than a year.  Its excellent PR.  Other studios really need to learn by this example.  Im not talking about the games themselves as much as just keeping their mouths shut and working hard, and then tell everyone about it when its nearly ready. 

 

I mean, when my wife bakes cookies she tells the kids she's baking them, but she usually starts long before she tells them.  So they're all excited and only have to wait about 10 minutes or so to eat them.  But if she tells them, " Hey, Im baking cookies tonight. " Hours pass, more hours pass, the kids grow impatient.  They ask about it every ten minutes.  Then after hour 5 they begin to get a little grumpy when thinking about the cookies.  And by the time they finally get them they arent really that excited.  They have more of a "its about time" attitude. 

 

Who can blame them?  Nobody wants to wait 5 hours for cookies.  And no one wants to wait year upon year upon year for an mmorpg.  Ignorance is bliss, and surprises are always fun.  Especially when they are soon to be had. 

Surpisingly, I fully agree with you.

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  Distopia

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9/21/11 4:16:45 PM#128
Originally posted by Corehaven

Some of these companies really need to learn that a big part of hype is generated when something is "new".   A new game is announced and everyone gets excited and wants details.  Then they want new details.  And later, even more new details.  New is exciting. 

 

But some of these developers need to learn that they should just keep a lid on it until closer to release.  Wouldnt it be great to hear about a new Star Wars mmo made by Bioware of all developters and not only that but the game will be coming out in a few months?  NEATO! 

 

But see thats not the case here.  Lets announce the game years before it releases so that by the time it does, people are already half burned out on the idea.   Its pointless.  If they had announced the game just a year ago for instance, everyone would be hyped still.  

 

Its one thing I sort of like about Bethesda.  One minute you had no idea what was going on and the next?  Bam.  We're releasing a new game and it should be out in less than a year.  Its excellent PR.  Other studios really need to learn by this example.  Im not talking about the games themselves as much as just keeping their mouths shut and working hard, and then tell everyone about it when its nearly ready. 

 

I mean, when my wife bakes cookies she tells the kids she's baking them, but she usually starts long before she tells them.  So they're all excited and only have to wait about 10 minutes or so to eat them.  But if she tells them, " Hey, Im baking cookies tonight. " Hours pass, more hours pass, the kids grow impatient.  They ask about it every ten minutes.  Then after hour 5 they begin to get a little grumpy when thinking about the cookies.  And by the time they finally get them they arent really that excited.  They have more of a "its about time" attitude. 

 

Who can blame them?  Nobody wants to wait 5 hours for cookies.  And no one wants to wait year upon year upon year for an mmorpg.  Ignorance is bliss, and surprises are always fun.  Especially when they are soon to be had. 

Normally I'd agree with this, but the problem is they couldn't keep a lid on this game even when they were trying to. Maybe some don't remember what it was like prior to Biowares TOR announcement. Leaks, obsessive prying and dumpster diving were the norm. IMO they announceed while they felt they could still surprise some people out there.

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  Marcus-

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9/21/11 4:20:06 PM#129

Not for me personally...

 

To be honest, i don't get the hype to start with. It looks like a fairly avererage game. I mean its Star Wars, and the hype level for SWG was very similiar, so I'm sure that has a lot to do with it.

But from reading forums, yea, i see peoples patience wearing a lil thin. But once the game is released, all will be forgiven, at least for the first few days : p

  Isane

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9/21/11 4:26:36 PM#130

The game will release when it releases.

 

The real Issue here is the lack of anything decent releasing in the genre...... Maybe thats where the writers here should focus.

A few topic starters:

Why is the MMO Genre failing ?

Features that should be removed and have made the Genre easy mode whack-a-mole ?

Pay to Win , is that what has become of MMOs ?

 

Star Wars should be great when it releases, fortunatley I have a life. My current MMO experience is read a few forumns each night and then I come here for a laugh at the vets.

 

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SWTOR and COS games that could deliver !!

  Mors.Magne

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9/21/11 4:35:36 PM#131
I hate to be the troll, but looking at the gameplay, we have all played it before - it's WoW with Star Wars skins. I think this is the main reason for the fatigue. They have copied the most successful MMO to safeguard their investments and produced something a bit boring.
  User Deleted
9/21/11 4:40:39 PM#132

Originally posted by Jack_Target

I hate to be the troll, but looking at the gameplay, we have all played it before - it's WoW with Star Wars skins.

 


yep and i like the wow skins. All i care about is game play and content. i could care less about grachics.


  Mors.Magne

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9/21/11 4:45:39 PM#133
Originally posted by shinobi234

Originally posted by Jack_Target

I hate to be the troll, but looking at the gameplay, we have all played it before - it's WoW with Star Wars skins.

 


yep and i like the wow skins. All i care about is game play and content. i could care less about grachics.


 

No. I'm saying that the graphics are different (but still cartoonish) but the game play is like WoW.
  BarCrow

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9/21/11 4:50:09 PM#134
Originally posted by Jack_Target
Originally posted by shinobi234

Originally posted by Jack_Target

I hate to be the troll, but looking at the gameplay, we have all played it before - it's WoW with Star Wars skins.

 

yep and i like the wow skins. All i care about is game play and content. i could care less about grachics.

 

No. I'm saying that the graphics are different (but still cartoonish) but the game play is like WoW.

The game play is like every other mmo..including WoW. Until we graduate from keyboard and mouse as interfaces...I don't see it drastically changing anytime in the near future. Most mmo's involve a lot of button clicking and cooldowns. I only say most because I may have missed some that have miraculously changed the genre since the late 90's. Please, anyone, let me know if thats the case.

  Normike

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9/21/11 4:55:36 PM#135
Originally posted by Jack_Target
I hate to be the troll, but looking at the gameplay, we have all played it before - it's WoW with Star Wars skins.

I feel the same way about all games, including GW2. There are some people who act like GW2 combat is a brand new invention, never seen before!   lmao  Get real. I'm sure the combat will feel extremely familiar to anyone who has played video games for a few years.

 

This whole argument of comparing these upcoming MMOs to see which one is too much like WoW is beyond silly.  WoW lost its appeal for many people mostly because the atmosphere of orcs, elves, dwarves and humans has been done to death. WoWs graphics look like a dusty dinosaur bone. And WoWs mechanics of grab a bunch of quests without reading them, raid raid raid, pvp battleground pvp battleground is done to death.

 

GW2, SWTOR, and other upcoming MMOs all share similarities to WoW, EQ, AC, etc.  GW2 wants to set itself apart with pvp and random public quests. SWTOR wants to set itself apart with deeper story, 100% voiced dialogue, sci fi, alignment through story choices, and multiplayer quest conversations. The Secret World wants to set itself apart by blurring the barrier between game world quests vs real world quests, the horror genre, and deep and complex skill system. Arch Age wants to set itself apart by having sandbox elements, building, guild structures, realistic physics, large scale terrain.

 

Each MMO is going to try to keep some things that were popular in MMOs like WoW and also make changes that set them apart.

  SlothnChunk

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9/21/11 5:27:02 PM#136

I'm not that excited about TOR either and agree games like Skyrim and BF3 will be played first.


I'm a Star Wars nut and if you told me three years ago I wouldn't be wildly interested in a Star Wars MMO made by Bioware I would have called you crazy.


TOR, sadly, doesn't look that special and is another WoW-like themepark with on-rails for space combat. Supposedly the highlight is the story and if that's the case the game will be waiting for me six months or whatever after launch. My motivation to run out and buy the game simply isn't there.


  Cannyone

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9/21/11 6:06:57 PM#137

I personally am weary of the secrecy and "when its ready..." BS!  If they weren't ready to announce a release date they shouldn't have begun a preorder campaign.  Now I just want to know if I'll be able to play by the time Christmas break rolls around.  And if not then I'm going to switch my focus to other games and BioWare can twist in the wind.


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9/21/11 6:24:23 PM#138

Well I still am hoping that it will be out  in Nov.


  kraash

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9/21/11 6:32:55 PM#139
Originally posted by ukforze
Originally posted by monarc333

I read that EA has even considered a March '12 release if they need it. I promise you, if it releases past January I wont be playing this game. Feb of '12 is going to be packed with a lot of AAA games. Then GW2 will be coming out, and Ill be all over that with my guild. I sure hope BW doesnt make a huge mistake and assume people will buy it just because its a SW game.


We need a release date soon. SWTOR is starting to wither in peoples minds.

I guarantee it will be next year, quote me on it if ya want, but you'd rather it released in a

playable working state wouldnt you?

NO.. no i wouldnt, id rather they release it now even if it has to start as a text based game  and get graphics later.

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  User Deleted
9/21/11 6:34:40 PM#140

They shouldnt have pushed pre-orders when they cant even get an EU beta client working.

 

 

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