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  Onomas

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Sandbox is your only hope for a decent mmo ;)

9/13/11 10:11:40 PM#121

travel the world alone (solo) and this often happens. Whos fault is that? In a pvp environment ganking as you call it is part of the game mechanics. Stop trying to solo everything, group up and travel together. 5 vs 1 is an easy target, 5 v 3+ is not so easy. I mean seriously, most these people that cry "i was ganked" are often alone and die alone. Im a crafter, but when i pvp i never go at it alone, never travel flagged alone, and i rarely get ganked. I have no pity for solo players.

Now if you are in a group of 3+ and get smashed by a group of 8 o so, well tough luck. Take your medicine and keep on going. Crying about every game mechanic because you die is for the weak.

  Ceridith

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Joined: 11/24/09
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The more you hype an upcoming game in your mind, the more it will fail to meet your expectations.

9/13/11 10:23:45 PM#122
Originally posted by Onomas

travel the world alone (solo) and this often happens. Whos fault is that? In a pvp environment ganking as you call it is part of the game mechanics. Stop trying to solo everything, group up and travel together. 5 vs 1 is an easy target, 5 v 3+ is not so easy. I mean seriously, most these people that cry "i was ganked" are often alone and die alone. Im a crafter, but when i pvp i never go at it alone, never travel flagged alone, and i rarely get ganked. I have no pity for solo players.

Now if you are in a group of 3+ and get smashed by a group of 8 o so, well tough luck. Take your medicine and keep on going. Crying about every game mechanic because you die is for the weak.

If you're going to play the "mechanics" card, then don't complain if the game mechanics are changed to discourage, impede, or otherwise remove the ability for you to go out of your way to gank players that have no ability to defend themselves. On the off chance the mechanics don't change, don't complain when there's barely anyone else to "play with" (read: gank) because the game population is so low.

  Onomas

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Joined: 7/05/11
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Sandbox is your only hope for a decent mmo ;)

9/13/11 10:29:17 PM#123
Originally posted by Ceridith
Originally posted by Onomas

travel the world alone (solo) and this often happens. Whos fault is that? In a pvp environment ganking as you call it is part of the game mechanics. Stop trying to solo everything, group up and travel together. 5 vs 1 is an easy target, 5 v 3+ is not so easy. I mean seriously, most these people that cry "i was ganked" are often alone and die alone. Im a crafter, but when i pvp i never go at it alone, never travel flagged alone, and i rarely get ganked. I have no pity for solo players.

Now if you are in a group of 3+ and get smashed by a group of 8 o so, well tough luck. Take your medicine and keep on going. Crying about every game mechanic because you die is for the weak.

If you're going to play the "mechanics" card, then don't complain if the game mechanics are changed to discourage, impede, or otherwise remove the ability for you to go out of your way to gank players that have no ability to defend themselves. On the off chance the mechanics don't change, don't complain when there's barely anyone else to "play with" (read: gank) because the game population is so low.

Are you serious? Dont cry because ganking killed the game and people left? Ganking has been around since pvp has been out. You can gank someone in fps and rts games also lol. Its not going to change. Its risk you take for taking part in pvp. And i rarely see a game die because someone got ganked.

And as i stated, im more of a crafter and pvp about 20% of the time. Dont go out of my way for easy kills. Just no fun in it for me. I like big battles, lots of action. Not beating down one guy as if it took any skill.

 

NO ONE is forcing you to pvp or play on a pvp only server. Even as a crafter i play pvp games like lineage2 because i for one love the rush of getting away. Guess thats why s a jedi in SWG i would make sure i was on the bounty list always. Love strategy and skill to get away safe.

  Ceridith

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Joined: 11/24/09
Posts: 3001

The more you hype an upcoming game in your mind, the more it will fail to meet your expectations.

9/13/11 10:54:21 PM#124
Originally posted by Onomas
Originally posted by Ceridith
Originally posted by Onomas

travel the world alone (solo) and this often happens. Whos fault is that? In a pvp environment ganking as you call it is part of the game mechanics. Stop trying to solo everything, group up and travel together. 5 vs 1 is an easy target, 5 v 3+ is not so easy. I mean seriously, most these people that cry "i was ganked" are often alone and die alone. Im a crafter, but when i pvp i never go at it alone, never travel flagged alone, and i rarely get ganked. I have no pity for solo players.

Now if you are in a group of 3+ and get smashed by a group of 8 o so, well tough luck. Take your medicine and keep on going. Crying about every game mechanic because you die is for the weak.

If you're going to play the "mechanics" card, then don't complain if the game mechanics are changed to discourage, impede, or otherwise remove the ability for you to go out of your way to gank players that have no ability to defend themselves. On the off chance the mechanics don't change, don't complain when there's barely anyone else to "play with" (read: gank) because the game population is so low.

Are you serious? Dont cry because ganking killed the game and people left? Ganking has been around since pvp has been out. You can gank someone in fps and rts games also lol. Its not going to change. Its risk you take for taking part in pvp. And i rarely see a game die because someone got ganked.

And as i stated, im more of a crafter and pvp about 20% of the time. Dont go out of my way for easy kills. Just no fun in it for me. I like big battles, lots of action. Not beating down one guy as if it took any skill.

 

NO ONE is forcing you to pvp or play on a pvp only server. Even as a crafter i play pvp games like lineage2 because i for one love the rush of getting away. Guess thats why s a jedi in SWG i would make sure i was on the bounty list always. Love strategy and skill to get away safe.

Yes, I'm serious.

Whether it be UO, WoW, Rift, etc, certain PvPers have a tendency to kick and scream when their ability to corpse camp lowbies is in some way restricted.

And you're right, it's my and others choices as to whether we participate in PvP rulesets... which is exactly why PvP rulesets hold so many restrictions these days. A fringe group of PvPers tend to take the ruleset to take ganking to the extreme, which is why developers have to go out of their way to deter it. If they didn't, a hell of a lot less people would play PvP ruleset servers.

  madjackred

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Joined: 9/11/08
Posts: 36

9/13/11 11:52:00 PM#125

"Those whining carebears convinced the Devs to NERF corpse camping!  This is SO unfair!"

  Squal'Zell

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Joined: 10/09/04
Posts: 1809

"Next time i log in SWG ill probably see elves and druids"

9/14/11 12:11:27 AM#126

for those getting ganked here is a tip that makes it ohhh so funny (on the ganked side)

nowadays there really isnt much penalty for dying, even in a FFA Full loot (SPECIALLY at lvl 1)

so what you do is when you find a ganker that kills you simply go back and punch him 

you punch ganker for 1 damage

you punch ganker for 1 damage

you punch ganker for 1 damage

you punch ganker for 1 damage

ganker strikes you for 50 damage you die

rince repeat without saying a word until he gets fed up of you just showing up in front of him to get killed

when he leaves to go gank other people

start sending him PMs 

/tell ganker: hey wanna be my friend

/tell ganker: i dont speak english

/tell ganker: give me gold plz

/tell ganker: potions? you got armors you give to me?

/tell ganker: i got facebook i am from small village in affrica, i have internet in local school

/tell ganker: i need friend you be friend

and let your imagination roll

if he blocks you remember his name and just remake a toon and keep talking to him

/tell ganker: you blocked my other character so i made this one so we can speak,

/tell ganker: so when we go hunt? i want kill stuff and be cool like you

and if its a free to play game simply  keep wanting to give him your ultimate love in private PMs and public posts on how he is so cool

 

i did that once, oh how sweet his anoyed tears are

ganker whispers: dude im not your friend STOP SENDING ME TELLS, ILL REPORT YOU!

/tell ganker report for what i just want to be your friend, will you be my friend?

ganker whispers: STOP IT DONT YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE BETTER TO DO?

 

and at this point is where he tastes a bit of his own medicine

 

 


  redcap036

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Joined: 8/19/07
Posts: 1236

9/14/11 12:25:02 AM#127

 

So SWTOR ganked the gankers from ganking low levels and now the gankers are crying foul and whining, lol the irony.
  lthompson94

Novice Member

Joined: 4/23/11
Posts: 199

9/14/11 12:38:34 AM#128
Originally posted by travdoty

Because its funny to see how serious some people are about video games. If you really care so much that it makes you angry when someone comes and kills you in a video game, then you need help. No, gankers do not have low self esteem. No, they do not have 'issues' in real life. It's honestly just funny to hear the nerd raging that follows.

*edit* I also look at it the same way I look at people who whine about the AWP in counterstrike. If you don't like a particular feature of a game (the AWP, the ability to gank, etc) then don't play the game. It's that easy.

You do realize that your very logic is basically a fundamental indicator of low self esteem?  Ie, gaining satisfaction from the degradation or despair of others, right?  That is an "issue," my friend.  You're validating the entire arguement.

 

Go ahead and keep ganking.  Then blame the devs that the game was a failure after half the population quits.  "...then don't play the game..." that's exactly what will happen.

 

It's one thing to like PvP.  It's quite another to be a griefer.  Those who shout "carebear" are generally the very ones who can't accept battle on even terms, and thus are the real losers in the scenario.  Calling battleground/arena/scenarios carebear PvP... its beyond me.  Face my team and I'll show you a carebear - and guess what, it will be on even terms. 

  adiktus

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/20/10
Posts: 128

9/14/11 12:39:38 AM#129
Originally posted by Squal'Zell

for those getting ganked here is a tip that makes it ohhh so funny (on the ganked side)

nowadays there really isnt much penalty for dying, even in a FFA Full loot (SPECIALLY at lvl 1)

so what you do is when you find a ganker that kills you simply go back and punch him 

you punch ganker for 1 damage

you punch ganker for 1 damage

you punch ganker for 1 damage

you punch ganker for 1 damage

ganker strikes you for 50 damage you die

rince repeat without saying a word until he gets fed up of you just showing up in front of him to get killed

when he leaves to go gank other people

start sending him PMs 

/tell ganker: hey wanna be my friend

/tell ganker: i dont speak english

/tell ganker: give me gold plz

/tell ganker: potions? you got armors you give to me?

/tell ganker: i got facebook i am from small village in affrica, i have internet in local school

/tell ganker: i need friend you be friend

and let your imagination roll

if he blocks you remember his name and just remake a toon and keep talking to him

/tell ganker: you blocked my other character so i made this one so we can speak,

/tell ganker: so when we go hunt? i want kill stuff and be cool like you

and if its a free to play game simply  keep wanting to give him your ultimate love in private PMs and public posts on how he is so cool

 

i did that once, oh how sweet his anoyed tears are

ganker whispers: dude im not your friend STOP SENDING ME TELLS, ILL REPORT YOU!

/tell ganker report for what i just want to be your friend, will you be my friend?

ganker whispers: STOP IT DONT YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE BETTER TO DO?

 

and at this point is where he tastes a bit of his own medicine

 

 

Hahahaha. That's a very cute idea! :) Although I'm rarely ganked so I don't think I will be able to use this. If ever it does happen to me, I'll try this. Haha.

Anyway, gankers are losers. That's all there is to it.

  lthompson94

Novice Member

Joined: 4/23/11
Posts: 199

9/14/11 12:46:28 AM#130
Originally posted by Onomas

travel the world alone (solo) and this often happens. Whos fault is that? In a pvp environment ganking as you call it is part of the game mechanics. Stop trying to solo everything, group up and travel together. 5 vs 1 is an easy target, 5 v 3+ is not so easy. I mean seriously, most these people that cry "i was ganked" are often alone and die alone. Im a crafter, but when i pvp i never go at it alone, never travel flagged alone, and i rarely get ganked. I have no pity for solo players.

Now if you are in a group of 3+ and get smashed by a group of 8 o so, well tough luck. Take your medicine and keep on going. Crying about every game mechanic because you die is for the weak.

And a group of 8 killing a group of 3 is not "for the weak?"  Oh please.

 

And guess what, if you want to talk mechanics, and how people need to get used to it... well the implimentations in SWTOR will be a MECHANIC.  So get used to it.  Stop crying about a game mechanic that prohibits your ganking - it's for the weak.

  AKASlaphappy

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Joined: 7/01/06
Posts: 812

9/14/11 1:33:34 AM#131
Originally posted by fansede
The game to become involved with then is Salem.  
I do not think people that like ganking will enjoy Salem! There is a skill that you can get in Salem to track down people that murder other players. This skill will allow you to pull  the character into the game if they are offline and they you can murder them at your leisure and take all their stuff.  Not exactly a game you want to play as a ganker unless you like having all your character die horrible deaths, and since it is permadeath you better enjoy leveling alts. Personally I think all games should add this into the game so bounty hunters can pull gankers into the game and steal all their items, just to spread the love.
 
 
Originally posted by Squal'Zell

for those getting ganked here is a tip that makes it ohhh so funny (on the ganked side)

nowadays there really isnt much penalty for dying, even in a FFA Full loot (SPECIALLY at lvl 1)

so what you do is when you find a ganker that kills you simply go back and punch him 

you punch ganker for 1 damage

you punch ganker for 1 damage

you punch ganker for 1 damage

you punch ganker for 1 damage

ganker strikes you for 50 damage you die

rince repeat without saying a word until he gets fed up of you just showing up in front of him to get killed

when he leaves to go gank other people

start sending him PMs 

/tell ganker: hey wanna be my friend

/tell ganker: i dont speak english

/tell ganker: give me gold plz

/tell ganker: potions? you got armors you give to me?

/tell ganker: i got facebook i am from small village in affrica, i have internet in local school

/tell ganker: i need friend you be friend

and let your imagination roll

if he blocks you remember his name and just remake a toon and keep talking to him

/tell ganker: you blocked my other character so i made this one so we can speak,

/tell ganker: so when we go hunt? i want kill stuff and be cool like you

and if its a free to play game simply  keep wanting to give him your ultimate love in private PMs and public posts on how he is so cool

 

i did that once, oh how sweet his anoyed tears are

ganker whispers: dude im not your friend STOP SENDING ME TELLS, ILL REPORT YOU!

/tell ganker report for what i just want to be your friend, will you be my friend?

ganker whispers: STOP IT DONT YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE BETTER TO DO?

 

and at this point is where he tastes a bit of his own medicine

If I ever get ganked by a high level character again I will have to try this, if you add some I put on my wizard robe into this it would be even more epic.
 
As for the OPs question: I think people do crap like this in games because they know they could never get away with it in real life, so they figure why not I can get away with it in a game. If the person they were ganking was sitting next to them with a baseball bat and they knew when he got frustrated enough he would break their legs and arms with said baseball bat they would not be doing it. That is the horrible part of the internet people are anonymous so they can be the biggest jackass on the planet and they know nothing will happen to them. The internet is the bathroom wall of society times 1000!
 
  DarkPony

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9/14/11 1:53:50 AM#132
Originally posted by Squal'Zell

for those getting ganked here is a tip that makes it ohhh so funny (on the ganked side)

nowadays there really isnt much penalty for dying, even in a FFA Full loot (SPECIALLY at lvl 1)

so what you do is when you find a ganker that kills you simply go back and punch him 

you punch ganker for 1 damage

you punch ganker for 1 damage

you punch ganker for 1 damage

you punch ganker for 1 damage

ganker strikes you for 50 damage you die

rince repeat without saying a word until he gets fed up of you just showing up in front of him to get killed

when he leaves to go gank other people

start sending him PMs 

/tell ganker: hey wanna be my friend

/tell ganker: i dont speak english

/tell ganker: give me gold plz

/tell ganker: potions? you got armors you give to me?

/tell ganker: i got facebook i am from small village in affrica, i have internet in local school

/tell ganker: i need friend you be friend

and let your imagination roll

if he blocks you remember his name and just remake a toon and keep talking to him

/tell ganker: you blocked my other character so i made this one so we can speak,

/tell ganker: so when we go hunt? i want kill stuff and be cool like you

and if its a free to play game simply  keep wanting to give him your ultimate love in private PMs and public posts on how he is so cool

 

i did that once, oh how sweet his anoyed tears are

ganker whispers: dude im not your friend STOP SENDING ME TELLS, ILL REPORT YOU!

/tell ganker report for what i just want to be your friend, will you be my friend?

ganker whispers: STOP IT DONT YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE BETTER TO DO?

 

and at this point is where he tastes a bit of his own medicine

 

Probably counts as harrassment and could get you temp banned in most games if you'd keep that up for a long time.

Also it would make me think you would genuinly feel hurt and offended by getting killed if you put in all that time and effort.

Sets you back more than the gank did in the first place so it really defeats the purpose :)

 

  maji

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9/14/11 1:58:58 AM#133

I think that PvP in MMORPGs is in general for players who don't want a real challenge but instead utterly destroy people with worse equipment or lower levels.

In an FPS like TF2, each player has basically the same chances. Yes, some have a wider selection of equipment than others, but it's not like that one group of items is quickly superior to the other.

In MMORPGs, it's like "the player who was grinding the most wins". You got far better equipment and thus can easily destroy anyone with worse equipment, obviously. It's not about having a fair match or something, it's rather like going to a kid half your age and kick him in the balls. That's what MMORPG PvP is about. That's why I play PvE in MMORPGs and stay with PvP to "real" PvP games.

It's also why PvP players complain that much about every single patch. "Oh noes, suddenly I can't faceroll my opponents to death anymore because of a patch, how horrible". T_T MMORPG PvP is all about finding players who are no match for you and kill them.

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  Nadya3

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9/14/11 2:08:56 AM#134
Originally posted by maji

I think that PvP in MMORPGs is in general for players who don't want a real challenge but instead utterly destroy people with worse equipment or lower levels.

In an FPS like TF2, each player has basically the same chances. Yes, some have a wider selection of equipment than others, but it's not like that one group of items is quickly superior to the other.

In MMORPGs, it's like "the player who was grinding the most wins". You got far better equipment and thus can easily destroy anyone with worse equipment, obviously. It's not about having a fair match or something, it's rather like going to a kid half your age and kick him in the balls. That's what MMORPG PvP is about. That's why I play PvE in MMORPGs and stay with PvP to "real" PvP games.

It's also why PvP players complain that much about every single patch. "Oh noes, suddenly I can't faceroll my opponents to death anymore because of a patch, how horrible". T_T MMORPG PvP is all about finding players who are no match for you and kill them.

i agree with you.   i think that pvp in a mmorpg is totally useless and a total waste of time.  yet there are some people who are willing to shed 15 euros, dollars each month to play a mmo only for that particular features, knowing that FPS would provide them with a far and superior pvp experience.

  Isawa

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9/14/11 2:11:07 AM#135
Originally posted by BarCrow
Originally posted by travdoty
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by travdoty

No, gankers do not have low self esteem....It's honestly just funny to hear the nerd raging that follows.

That's very difficult to credit when you read their complex construct of justifications--including the contradiction inherent in the above.

 

Lol... do you feel special for using big words on the internet? Explain to me how my statement is contradictory. Because I think it's funny that some people care wayyyyy too much about video games, it automatically makes me have low self-esteem and have inferiority/superiority issues? Are you citing an actual psychological study, or are you just pulling it out of your ass? That's what I thought.

Um...so you think Icewhite used big words?  wow.


And a general response to everyone, all the folks for ganking lowbies are on the Sith side. If anything they are just pissed off that the word younglings was used several time in the prequels, and not being able to kill such younglings in TOR is frickin annoying! :) Carry on!

  Nadya3

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9/14/11 2:28:43 AM#136

i think they get a huge boost of ego, and a general feeling of being powerful and in control,   this people normally have very little to none existant self steem irl, thus you normally see them bragging after each low level player they killed.   they also avoid challenge and run away from higher level players or anyone that pose a challenge or any opposition to them.

their ideal game is one where players would simply stood up still while afk, allowing them to pk left and right untill they or the low players would log off out of boredom. 

they swarm every new MMO like flies to the milk with their hopes and expectations up in search for their new pvp playing grounds,  looking for new virtual victims.

  MumboJumbo

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9/14/11 4:40:58 AM#137
Originally posted by robert4818

SWTOR announced that you would not be able to make your way to the opponents starting world and gank starting players.  It did not say that they removed PVP, that it would only be instanced PVP, or that once someone left the starter planets (around lvl 20 or so) that you couldn't attack them.  ONLY that you you couldn't go and gank brand new toons.

Nerd rage followed from the PK community.

My question is WHY?

Why is the ability to kill brand new players so integral to the playstyle?  Why does the temporary ability to avoid ganking cause so much hate and discontent?

I like the way you have structured this quesion with this context. I'm rightly guessing there are multiplicity of reasons for ganking lowbies gameplay. However beginning at the beginning: If a game is multiplayer and it's possible to play this way, ppl will do so and that's observed. At worst there's dubious motivation and at best there's full expression of capacity to change the game to one's wishes as the game design allows this. And I agree with the last point, if the game allows it, I don't care if players act this way, blame the game not the player!

That said, levels is a system brought into mmorpgs from other games. It's a system that I'd prefer mmorpgs to move away from for more immersive simulation of virtual worlds and so this artificial layering perhaps is latent reason in some gankers rebelling against this, perhaps not fully verbalised, by acting this way (as well as the more odious motives also in the mix) and from that perspective, this is useful negative feedback that should be considered by developers seriously apart from choosing:

1/ Diplomatic Immunity for New Players (eg Themepark SWTOR, GW2 etc)

or

2/ Choose your own passport and which country you will be visiting, warzone or otherwise.

As said, levels are the real problem in my opinion which leads to the fork above.

  robert4818

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OP  9/14/11 9:59:56 AM#138
Originally posted by MumboJumbo
Originally posted by robert4818

SWTOR announced that you would not be able to make your way to the opponents starting world and gank starting players.  It did not say that they removed PVP, that it would only be instanced PVP, or that once someone left the starter planets (around lvl 20 or so) that you couldn't attack them.  ONLY that you you couldn't go and gank brand new toons.

Nerd rage followed from the PK community.

My question is WHY?

Why is the ability to kill brand new players so integral to the playstyle?  Why does the temporary ability to avoid ganking cause so much hate and discontent?

And I agree with the last point, if the game allows it, I don't care if players act this way, blame the game not the player!

I disagree with the point you made here.

We rarely hear this defense for Team Killers in Team FPS games that have friendly fire, even though the game includes the ability to shoot your team-mates.

Why is that?

The answer is simple, because players recognize that this is not the point of either the game or the feature.  Yet, when it comes to an MMO that ALSO has a similar feature we hear its the games fault for including such a feature, regardless of the reason they included it.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

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9/14/11 10:29:53 AM#139
Originally posted by travdoty

Because its funny to see how serious some people are about video games. If you really care so much that it makes you angry when someone comes and kills you in a video game, then you need help. No, gankers do not have low self esteem. No, they do not have 'issues' in real life. It's honestly just funny to hear the nerd raging that follows.

*edit* I also look at it the same way I look at people who whine about the AWP in counterstrike. If you don't like a particular feature of a game (the AWP, the ability to gank, etc) then don't play the game. It's that easy.

You do not need psychological studies on a specific individual for a psychologist (such as myself) to clearly see people who have issues.

Your statement of "It's honestly just funny to hear the nerd raging that follows." is a bit disturbing, as healthier human beings tend to not find enjoyment from seeing others' veins popping out, and mature adults do not "get off" on exciting people with anger issues or inciting additional frustration just to see someone dance.

Your repetitive and rapid defenses against others only helps to add evidence to the hypothesis that "gankers have low self esteem or "issues" in real life." You not only enjoy the suffering of others, which can be a trait of unhealthy people, but you are also quite quick to defend yourself by responding in a way which appears to be very insecure. Most people do not feel the need to defend themselves repeatedly, even at posts not directed at themselves.

Your multiple replies to this thread is actually what convinced me that the hypothesis is most likely TRUE! It is hard to believe it isn't, when the only person defending "gankers" is one which is clearly dealing with some sort of real life issue himself. I do not mean to belittle you or embarass you, but only to point out to you and to others that it does seem to be true, based on the very evidence in this thread.

The real question is, "In online video games, is it healthy for people with real life problems to act out negatively in anger towards others by killing them when they have no chance, just to laugh at their misfortune? Does this benefit the person in any way? Can cruelty to others be positive to those who are cruel?"

Just because a person has issues, doesn't necessarily mean it is wrong or bad to "gank newbies", although most of us would argue against it as seen here.

 

Don't get me wrong, one of my favorite things to do is to prank people, argue with them online, or to drive them crazy when I feel they are being illogical. For most of my life, I enjoy this not because I am a psychopath, not because I have low self-esteem, but because it is just plain fun. HOWEVER, I never pick on newbies unless I am also one, I never have been a PK and dont' really understand harming others innocently and ruining their gaming experience, and I usually only argue or drive crazy those who bully others or attempt to bully me multiple times, noticing they have a bully mentality online. I was always an anti-PK PK, anti-bully bully, or just an immature prankster. If the person got very upset though (such as someone with a short fuse) I would apologize, making sure I made up for making them upset. My intentions for pranks are to poke fun at other people, which I realize is annoying to them. However, I don't wish to annoy them but am okay if I do, but I certainly do not want to do any more than simply annoy them. When I do enjoy frustrating them, I usually justify it with a reason, and it is because I am angry or have "issues" at that time. And yes, all psychologists have as many issues as everyone else. We are human beings also.

  Goatgod76

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9/14/11 10:33:13 AM#140
Originally posted by Disatisfied9
Originally posted by travdoty

Because its funny to see how serious some people are about video games. If you really care so much that it makes you angry when someone comes and kills you in a video game, then you need help. No, gankers do not have low self esteem. No, they do not have 'issues' in real life. It's honestly just funny to hear the nerd raging that follows.

*edit* I also look at it the same way I look at people who whine about the AWP in counterstrike. If you don't like a particular feature of a game (the AWP, the ability to gank, etc) then don't play the game. It's that easy.

You do not need psychological studies on a specific individual for a psychologist (such as myself) to clearly see people who have issues.

Your statement of "It's honestly just funny to hear the nerd raging that follows." is a bit disturbing, as healthier human beings tend to not find enjoyment from seeing others' veins popping out, and mature adults do not "get off" on exciting people with anger issues or inciting additional frustration just to see someone dance.

Your repetitive and rapid defenses against others only helps to add evidence to the hypothesis that "gankers have low self esteem or "issues" in real life." You not only enjoy the suffering of other's, which is a trait of unhealthy people, but you are also quite quick to defend yourself by responding in a way which appears to be very insecure. Most people do not feel the need to defend themselves repeatedly, even at posts not directed at themselves.

Your multiple replies to this thread is actually what convinced me that the hypothesis is most likely TRUE! It is hard to believe it isn't, when the only person defending "gankers" is one which is clearly dealing with some sort of real life issue himself. I do not mean to belittle you or embarass you, but only to point out to you and to others that it does seem to be true, based on the very evidence in this thread.

The real question is, "In online video games, is it healthy for people with real life problems to act out negatively in anger towards others by killing them when they have no chance, just to laugh at their misfortune? Does this benefit the person in any way? Can cruelty to others be positive to those who are cruel?"

Just because a person has issues, doesn't necessarily mean it is wrong or bad to "gank newbies", although most of us would argue against it as seen here.

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