to the OP..

Feel's like a polished Korean MMO grind and there are plenty other Korean mmo's where you don't have to pay a monthly fee.

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Originally posted by Evilkanebel
to the OP..
Feel's like a polished Korean MMO grind and there are plenty other Korean mmo's where you don't have to pay a monthly fee.

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I played at launch until cap, which was 50 then I believe.  The cons outwayed the pros, so I stopped giving a poop about Aion.

Liked:

PvP was great at first, environments were astonishing, gameplay was fluid and fun.

Disliked:

Bots, gold spammers, grind, kill-10-rats questing, support, absolutely no end-game, one-sided abyss, pay-to-play.

I tried Aion at launch and one more time for a month before a couple of months.

No quests at all. If by quests it means kill 100 or kill 200 of these mobs and gather badges then yes aion has quests. All the time i felt like i have to do the job named "quests" after my day job.

No pvp at all. Gank or be Ganged. Mass pvp is also like a routine. Elyos living their castles in order Asmodians to cap them and then the same again. Pointless world pvp. PVP is more like a mob grind to abyss to gather the necessery pvp points (for those who dont know in aion you can gain pvp points by farming mobs...)

and many more i can talk for a few hours. Last time i checked 2 months ago the game, it was westernized in craft and few more thinks, but my opinion remains the same.

Polished, great graphics and boring

PS. didnt manage to play the whole month i pay :/

Originally posted by Mannish

Originally posted by Ganksinatra

It's awesome.....right up until you meet up with a cleric in the Abyss only 2 levels higher then you and your friends and he rapes all 5 of you in a few minutes. They may have changed that, but that ruined it for me. At the time I last played, there was no real guarunteed stuns or interupts...you could use a skill that had a CHANCE to do those things, but to be honest, they hardly ever did, leading to clerics healing themselves to full every couple of seconds, all while dropping their little lightning thingy that kills you. That alone was enough for me to say screw it and leave for another game.

ALL games have problems with balance as far as PvP goes, don't get me wrong, but when the guy that keeps everyone alive is almost unkillable unless you gang up on him, it kind of takes away from anyone NOT being a cleric, and there were a TON of them back then.

 

 

This is the reason I quit because of the horrible class balance in pvp. I played a Templar from launch for about 3 months and made to Level 35. I gave up afther getting pwned over and over again by ranged classes like Sorcerer / Ranger. Aion is an awesome game and I still think its the best mmo out of its kind.

this post its full of no knowledge from class or game , templar with same level/gear loosing to ranger? must be kidding...anyway this is a group zerg orientated pvp game not solo pvp game, and yes gear does matter , but a game without gear GRInd had no chance to survive

The same mis-management as Lineage 2 received led to it being pointless.

Just like Lineage 2, I can find a better experience, with more real players, and things implemented that the playerbase have wanted (e.g. non restricted flight), on a private server at no cost.

While I dont play it on a private server, id never play retail simply for the fact that someone in their bedroom can run a better implementation of the game than NCSoft have managed to do...

Forced PVP after level 20.

That is why i don't play, although I do own the game.

Originally posted by pedrostrik

this post its full of no knowledge from class or game , templar with same level/gear loosing to ranger? must be kidding...anyway this is a group zerg orientated pvp game not solo pvp game, and yes gear does matter , but a game without gear GRInd had no chance to survive

 "a game without gear GRInd had no chance to survive". I sure hope not. P2P games make you grind gear on and on and on just for the sake of draining more subs from you. I seriously dislike the gear grind (raiding and raiding and then more raiding in hopes of getting a drop). It's a job, not a fun game at that point. Many games use the gear grind raiding mechanic to keep you sinking more and more money into the game. You don't have to go along with it. There are enough games out there that don't force raiding on you and games that do, well, I won't be sorry to see them go.

non-existent class balance is the reason why I left. That and retarded drop system with lottery like crafting.

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Originally posted by Britas

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Originally posted by inzane3

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Originally posted by Britas

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Originally posted by WhiteCross
Aion = S U C K A G E!
 
I played in beta and at launch.

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OP, this is why.
Entrenched opinions formed years ago that refuse to acknowledge change or take a reasonable look at the current game. It happens with every game across these boards, because everyone knows having an entrenched 'pro' opinion (ie, one that just stupidly repeats what the 'cool kids' say) makes you 'pro'.
Thanks White for demonstrating that :)

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lol Aion did suck at launch and at Beta and Even months after that.

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That wasnt debated or the point being made.

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It may not be the point being made, but that's largely why people are not playing the game. That stigma of a poor launch is going to stick with Aion forever.
 

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I agree, and that fact really reinforces my original statement.

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Originally posted by Qtar

When game come out in spetember i hit lvl 35 and i quit it was pain...grind grind grind.. And i afraid to come back . Good game dont make only graphics and good music..

if aion is a grind game lineage 2 what is? 

stop say aion is a grind game because is not the true...

Originally posted by nblitz

The enchanting and manastoning system depresses me and makes me not want to play for extended periods of time. Those are my main reasons why I have quit several times and why I don't stay subbed for longer periods. 

This is also probably the reason why many dub it a grind and do not recommend the game to others. I know I haven't.

Also I've grown a bit tired of the click-to-attack & stand-there-and-trade-blows-combat (I can't remember the word for this) but I wouldn't unsub from a fun game for that.

Why are you keyboard turning and spell clicking?  Even in WoW they call this NOOB.  Try using hotkeys.  Change 'A' & 'D' to strafe left and strafe right.  Use the mouse to turn the character or camera.  Then the first hotkeys you can use are Q & E.  And in most P2P games you can use Shift + E and Shift + Q.  That's 4 spells right there, for two keys.  

Once you start playing this way, you will never go back.

The Grind is nothing like it use to be. I recently got back into playing myself and its no longer that painful. I can agree with those that quit early on. I also played when it 1st launched, I got to 22 and that was it for me. Now I'm enjoying myself, I actually level 4 classes to 20 in a week, I  even rerolled Templar so I can learn to play the class again.

More power to those that stuck it out before the chnages.

I played this again from April-July 2011 with 3 friends. The xp grind is better, but the game is still a grind in every aspect. While leveling is a bit faster, it's still repeatables and rehashed content. The game was super fun for a week to experience all the changes, 3 months later I realized I was still having to play the game like a second job to get anywhere. And then we quit again. We'll never return, even with a ton of advancement over the last year the game is still a second job.

Grind grind grind grind.....

Also killing pokeman with sounds effects going HIIBA HIIBA CHEE CHEE are not entertaining.

Originally posted by Thydus

Originally posted by Qtar

When game come out in spetember i hit lvl 35 and i quit it was pain...grind grind grind.. And i afraid to come back . Good game dont make only graphics and good music..

if aion is a grind game lineage 2 what is? 

stop say aion is a grind game because is not the true...

If Aion is a grind game, then what is Lineage 2?

Stop saying Aion is a grind game because it's not true...

Originally posted by Painlezz

Originally posted by Thydus

Originally posted by Qtar

When game come out in spetember i hit lvl 35 and i quit it was pain...grind grind grind.. And i afraid to come back . Good game dont make only graphics and good music..

if aion is a grind game lineage 2 what is? 

stop say aion is a grind game because is not the true...

If Aion is a grind game, then what is Lineage 2?

Stop saying Aion is a grind game because it's not true...

If Aion is a grind game, then Lineage 2 is a grindEX game.

Stop saying Aion isn't a grind game just because Lineage have a even bigger grind game.

hehe, Aion has been better streamlined since launched, but I just don't particularly like the art style. Also really turned off by the flying part, when you let me fly at some zones and not others, it feels particularly like out of place.

Originally posted by Painlezz

If Aion is a grind game, then what is Lineage 2?

Stop saying Aion is a grind game because it's not true...

That is not a good argument.

It is like when journalist complains about a country doing bad stuff the goverment would say that "North Korea is worse so whatever we do is fine".

L2 have a lot more grind than Aion, but Aion is still very grindy. Just look on the number of "rat killing quests" the game have and the number of mobs you need to kill.

Aion have it's good sides as well, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have bad sides.

Took me 50mins to get lvl 10

half a day to get lvl 30

30-40 a week.

40-50 was boring but took a few weeks.

1 week to get lvl 50-55.

The real grind is end-game.

Grinding in your 30 and so on, burnt me out.

Bot and Spammers, from the whispers to the chat channel being flooded was just horrible and extremly annoying.

Flying is a joke in my opinion, I would like to have a ground mount.  LOL, the Hype on flying and at a low level was a selling point for me when I bought the game.  Transportation options is the game is weak and it's just something I shouldn't have to be thinking about, and I do.

The game looked and felt like a winner when I first started playing it, but that changed all to fast for me, with all the new batch of MMO's coming out next year, even if I wanted to give this game another go, I wouldn't have the time to play it.