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Originally posted by Atlan99

I personally couldn't care less if they took out romances period.
It's probably last on the list of reasons for me to play this game.

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This.

In a single player, maybe, but not in an MMO. All it causes is people from the player base to whinge about some thing silly as what has been happening about this issue.

Im just amazed this is an actual issue.  Ive come to the conclusion that the world is just completely insane.  

Apparently video games have had it wrong from the very start.  Mario wasnt supposed to rescue the Princess in the castle!  Thats rediculous!  It should have been Luigi, or maybe a nice italian named Fredrico, who Mario then passionately made out with upon game completion. 

Honestly, from the online petitions going to have Seseme Street announce that Bert and Earnie are gay, to this.  Im just getting really tired of the gay agenda. 

Han fell in love with Leia?  What bullox!  We all know Han and Luke had a thing going on!  I mean, thats just SOOO Star Wars!  Excuse me while I barf in a bucket. 

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Originally posted by Corehaven
Im just amazed this is an actual issue.  Ive come to the conclusion that the world is just completely insane.  
 
Apparently video games have had it wrong from the very start.  Mario wasnt supposed to rescue the Princess in the castle!  Thats rediculous!  It should have been Luigi, or maybe a nice italian named Fredrico, who Mario then passionately made out with upon game completion. 
 
Honestly, from the online petitions going to have Seseme Street announce that Bert and Earnie are gay, to this.  Im just getting really tired of the gay agenda. 
 
Han fell in love with Leia?  What bullox!  We all know Han and Luke had a thing going on!  I mean, thats just SOOO Star Wars!  Excuse me while I barf in a bucket. 

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And this.

I'm glad I'm not the only sane person around here.

If you're offended by "not being represented." Then don't play. If there was not a 'heterosexual' option in a game. I probably wouldn't play it either.

Originally posted by Corehaven

Im just amazed this is an actual issue.  Ive come to the conclusion that the world is just completely insane.  

 

Apparently video games have had it wrong from the very start.  Mario wasnt supposed to rescue the Princess in the castle!  Thats rediculous!  It should have been Luigi, or maybe a nice italian named Fredrico, who Mario then passionately made out with upon game completion. 

 

Honestly, from the online petitions going to have Seseme Street announce that Bert and Earnie are gay, to this.  Im just getting really tired of the gay agenda. 

 

Han fell in love with Leia?  What bullox!  We all know Han and Luke had a thing going on!  I mean, thats just SOOO Star Wars!  Excuse me while I barf in a bucket. 

I am sorry if I offended you. It was not my intention. And I do not know what these things you say nor do I support them.

Just, when all get a cake, I ask for a tiny piece for me too. That is all. I don't want to take anything from you away. ^^

Originally posted by Corehaven

Im just amazed this is an actual issue.  Ive come to the conclusion that the world is just completely insane.  

 

Apparently video games have had it wrong from the very start.  Mario wasnt supposed to rescue the Princess in the castle!  Thats rediculous!  It should have been Luigi, or maybe a nice italian named Fredrico, who Mario then passionately made out with upon game completion. 

 

Honestly, from the online petitions going to have Seseme Street announce that Bert and Earnie are gay, to this.  Im just getting really tired of the gay agenda. 

 

Han fell in love with Leia?  What bullox!  We all know Han and Luke had a thing going on!  I mean, thats just SOOO Star Wars!  Excuse me while I barf in a bucket. 

whoa, whoa, wait a minute.

Have you ever been disenfranchised? Have you ever felt like a second class citizen or felt marginalized?

I never had until the time I was in New Mexico and entered a taco bell. Suddenly the entire restaruant stopped and became silent and just stared at me. that's because I was the only white person in the restaruant.

It's pretyt easy to start saying you are tired of the x agenda but if you were always considered a second class citizen whose likes and dislikes were considered "less than" then you might have been playing a different tune.

Some advice for you, go watch the movie "Watermelon man". It's a realy good movie and one that really makes you think. You might have to look around for it but it might just expand that mind of yours and really make you think that there are people out there who work hard, have friends, contribute, do brilliant work and yet they are considered outsiders.

Imagine if everything you liked, loved and believed in was suddenly made to be an aberration by society. You might think that "cool" but I wonder how long you would think that it was "neat" to be different. there are many people out there who are just waiting to be tolerated. Not accepted, not anything but tolerated and wanting to go about thier lives.

I know plenty of gay people and some you'd never peg as "gay" unless they told you. They lament the fact that they pay taxes, do good work and have friends who get to enjoy the things in life that you might take for granted yet they have to skulk around in fear of being beaten up just because they are who they are.

Originally posted by AzurePrower

 

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Originally posted by Atlan99

I personally couldn't care less if they took out romances period.
It's probably last on the list of reasons for me to play this game.

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This.

In a single player, maybe, but not in an MMO. All it causes is people from the player base to whinge about some thing silly as what has been happening about this issue.

Pick something about the game that you find important, then have it arbitrarily removed.  I'm sure you'd not hesitate to make a very public show of your displeasure in the forums.  And if that one thing was completely unimportant to me, I'd like to think I'd at least have the decency to not completely denigrate your perspective, even if I don't share it.

Empathy is a chore.  Why bother when callous disregard is so much easier?

EDIT: Oh you got me OP!

HA!!!

I thought you were serious!!!

You bastard lol.

No matter what a person sexual preference no one could be that much of a puss...

You got me good OP LOL.

If this topic is what I think it is about, then I have to say that I'm very sorry, and I tend to agree with you fully, despite the fact that I'm not one of your type, I feel fully that societal taboos in this area are full on pathetic and incredibly stupid.

The only explination I can give is this:

Bioware is based in my home nation of Canada. They gave us games like Mass Effect, Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect 2, etc. etc.

SWTOR is being developed by Bioware Ausrtin, a studio founded by Canadian Bioware, but based in the United States. A huge contributer to the game is Lucas Arts, another company based in the United States. Bioware Austin is owned by EA, another American company.

Certian things are legal in my home nation of Canada, certian acts that are illegal for huge portions of the United States. In Canada, there is absolutely no opposition to these things being legal. Even our right-wing, socially conservative government has no opposition to these things being legal. The United States is filled with people who oppose certain things being legal. Even the vaunted Obama and his political party are opposed to these these things being legal.

I think this is a cultural thing. The sad, pathetic, backwards American culture, believing only in freedom for some, not for all, permeating this game and influencing it for the worst.

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Originally posted by Unlight

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Originally posted by AzurePrower
 

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Originally posted by Atlan99
I personally couldn't care less if they took out romances period.
It's probably last on the list of reasons for me to play this game.

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This.
In a single player, maybe, but not in an MMO. All it causes is people from the player base to whinge about some thing silly as what has been happening about this issue.

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Pick something about the game that you find important, then have it arbitrarily removed.  I'm sure you'd not hesitate to make a very public show of your displeasure in the forums.  And if that one thing was completely unimportant to me, I'd like to think I'd at least have the decency to not completely denigrate your perspective, even if I don't share it.
Empathy is a chore.  Why bother when callous disregard is so much easier?

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WHY AREN'T <insert here> A ROMANTIC OPTION? OUTRAGE!

Why can't I romance a droid?

Why can't I romance that sign spot?

Why can't I romance that random rancor?

WHY IN GOD'S NAME CAN I NOT ROMANCE THAT STAR CUISER?!

Objects have feeling too.

Get my drift of how silly this issue is?

Originally posted by Elikal

Originally posted by Corehaven

Im just amazed this is an actual issue.  Ive come to the conclusion that the world is just completely insane.  

 

Apparently video games have had it wrong from the very start.  Mario wasnt supposed to rescue the Princess in the castle!  Thats rediculous!  It should have been Luigi, or maybe a nice italian named Fredrico, who Mario then passionately made out with upon game completion. 

 

Honestly, from the online petitions going to have Seseme Street announce that Bert and Earnie are gay, to this.  Im just getting really tired of the gay agenda. 

 

Han fell in love with Leia?  What bullox!  We all know Han and Luke had a thing going on!  I mean, thats just SOOO Star Wars!  Excuse me while I barf in a bucket. 

I am sorry if I offended you. It was not my intention. And I do not know what these things you say nor do I support them.

Just, when all get a cake, I ask for a tiny piece for me too. That is all. I don't want to take anything from you away. ^^

Homosexuality doesnt really offend me.  Ive worked with gay people before and had no problem.  The guy talked about his boyfriend and I didnt give a darn.  Whatever. 

But this?  Anyways, Im not sure its possible.  But couldnt players just make a female toon, make her flat chested, give her masculine features, and a male name, and be happy with that?  Use some imagination people.  Then you can have the same sex relationship thing.  Sort off. 

Plus?  There's going to be gay guilds.  There always are.  If the game doesnt give you the romance options you exactly want, there's got to be creative work arounds that might make you or anyone wanting it happy. 

Seriously give Bioware some credit.  They have done same sex relationships in Dragon Age.  Im not sure about Mass Effect.  But they dared enough to at least do it.  Thats saying something too.  Its just not going to happen in this game.  You can pick out what?  Like a thousand games that have romance in the story but dont offer same sex themed romances?   Its not like this is the first time its happened. 

Maybe the writers just didnt feel like including it.  I know I wouldnt.  Or more than likely they have to clear a lot of what they're doing with Lucas or whatever. 

Its not homosexuality that offends me.  Its the issue of including it in Swtor.  Its an actual ISSUE.  Good God people.  Really?   I mean if they did it, I'd shrug and say whatever.  They havent so I shrug and say whatever.  But the fact that people are actually hurt, angry, or dissapointed just sort of gets me.  Why?   Work around it.  You can and will.  I promise.  It'll all work out.  Really. 

Well they will have species w/ other species relationships going on in Star Wars, I for some reason think that is good enough. Anyways, I always figured players who where interested in online relationships, marriage, and all that pursued relationships with other players in most MMOs, so isn't this a viable option here?

Lots of seriousness applied to a game...

Originally posted by AzurePrower

 

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Originally posted by Unlight

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Originally posted by AzurePrower
 

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Originally posted by Atlan99
I personally couldn't care less if they took out romances period.
It's probably last on the list of reasons for me to play this game.

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This.
In a single player, maybe, but not in an MMO. All it causes is people from the player base to whinge about some thing silly as what has been happening about this issue.

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Pick something about the game that you find important, then have it arbitrarily removed.  I'm sure you'd not hesitate to make a very public show of your displeasure in the forums.  And if that one thing was completely unimportant to me, I'd like to think I'd at least have the decency to not completely denigrate your perspective, even if I don't share it.
Empathy is a chore.  Why bother when callous disregard is so much easier?

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WHY AREN'T A ROMANTIC OPTION? OUTRAGE!

Why can't I romance a droid?

Why can't I romance that sign spot?

Why can't I romance that random rancor?

WHY IN GOD'S NAME CAN I NOT ROMANCE THAT STAR CUISER?!

Objects have feeling too.

Get my drift of how silly this issue is?

I apologize if my text agitated you. But what can I tell you to calm you?

It is a true and honest report how I feel. That is all to say. Please do not see it as an attack. It is not meant in any way against any of your views. Peace! ^^

This is like demanding a same sex romance version is made of every film that features a hetro storyline. It is really that stupid and over sensitive to me.

Look, some stories feature same sex relationships, some don't. People need to get over that and accept not every story has to reflect every human sexual preference to not be 'discriminating'.

The OP is waaaaay too emo about this and, tbh, a thicker skin needs to be grown.

Believe it or not someone actually did ask in a podcast if you could have a romance with the jawa companion. Sci-fi  fans really creep me out sometimes.

Far as the OP, there's nothing stopping you from romancing other players. ;)

Originally posted by AzurePrower

Oh seriously. You guys need to get over this issue already. There was already a news discussion thread for it. Don't need another.

Which was locked so I couldn't even offer my support and denounce the social regressives who think everyone should be exactly like them.

Originally posted by Corehaven
 Good God people.  Really?   I mean if they did it, I'd shrug and say whatever.

It's easy to say that when you are not a second class citizen.

Isn't it?

I mean, after a while from what I see the people who have to go through this are just TIRED.

I just spoke with a lovely young woman who would love to go to maine but she can't get married there. So she has to stay here for a bit. that being the Boston area.

It's not an issue whne it's not an issue. but if you have actulaly sat down and spoke with people who are gay then you might see that they just want to be left alone and tolerated at least.

Personally I don't care about romances in muliplayer games. but if two people want to be "pretend" same sex couples then really who cares?

Well some I imagine.

But again, it's easy to throw up your arms and say "I dont' get it" when you havne't been marginalized your whole life. I imagine you might play a different tune if everything you did was attacked whenever there was a chance. Or if everything you did led to the possibility of being physically hurt.

But no, most of us get to go about our lives without that stuff whereas some are scared to even be seen as who they really are.

i'm happy they closed this topic on the SWTOR forums. they could simply not have ANY romance...... would that be better? you could also simply go play SIMS... perhaps? no?

To my knowledge, George Lucas has never made anything Star Wars that had any sort of same gender romance to it.

IF there is to be anything like this in SW:TOR, George Lucas will end up making that call, don't kid yourself. This would be a big move for the Star Wars universe and anyone who follows Star Wars knows GL keeps a firm grip on his money machine.

He personally financed all 3 the prequals for a reason, his way, all the way.

Anywho, point is, I think being upset over this is silly as it'll be GL's call, he owns Star Wars. You, me, BioWare and EA don't.

agreed. but it's a topic that cant be discussed about one game either.... maybe you should start naming games that do have same sex romances. i sure know WoW does not... could flame that and not SWTOR right?

Originally posted by vesavius

This is like demanding a same sex romance version is made of every film that features a hetro storyline. It is really that stupid and over sensitive to me.

Look, some stories feature same sex relationships, some don't. People need to get over that and accept not every story has to reflect every human sexual preference to not be 'discriminating'.

 

The OP is waaaaay too emo about this and, tbh, a thicker skin needs to be grown.

 

 

I am sorry if I left this impression I wanted this. English is not my first language, so maybe I did not write it clear enough. It is ok that the majority of movies have hetero storylines. I enjoy those movies just the same. I always cried with "Titanic". :)

I just thought in a story MMO with so many romances, I too get one or two for me, additionally. That was all. ^^ I don't want to change any other films or books or existing characters at all.

I guess you are right, things tend to make me feel bad faster than other people. I wish I had a thicker skin. I will work on it.