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News & Features Discussion  » Star Wars: The Old Republic: Gamescom - A Massive Disappointment

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8/24/11 8:01:11 PM#161

Not gonna let it harden the arteries. Pretty sure they want the game to come out as bad as the players do.


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8/24/11 8:03:39 PM#162

Right on.  I'm sure the game will be a solid hotkey MMO, but the marketing has been questionable at best.  Too much hype and I haven't seen anything I can't convert to Rift or WoW terms.

If you don't worry about it, it's not a problem.


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8/24/11 8:09:36 PM#163

Originally posted by rt33

Yes many of us "clearly" understand what's going on, unfortunately there are far too many who "wont listen" and will learn the hard way, $150 plus hard way.

"Where’s the beef?" there isn't any and is why their hiding behind the veil, it's most certainly grab as much cash as you can before and at launch cause after that it's over.


You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Companies like Bioware are not going to risk long term customers for short term cash. That is just stupid talk...


I just got yet another warning for posting the above comment. I am getting sick and tired of getting bans/warnings for speaking my mind. If I call staff weak punks, will it get me a perma band? Please do it so that I won't be tempted to come here again. I love the site, but the staff here are STUPID!


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8/24/11 8:35:04 PM#164

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Once this game goes live people are going to finally realize how extensive the handholding is in this game.  You want any kind of challenge this game will NOT be for you.

I have already decided that I will not bother with this game.  I want at least some challenge in a MMO and a bit of being able to make my avatar somewhat unique.  No chance for that in this game.

You will see a lot of disappointed people once this game goes live.


Anyone else find the irony in how it seems that a large portion of people that frequent the SWTOR articles all claim they have already decided they will never bother with the game?

Sure seems these people are bothered enough with it that they have to "rescue" by constantly coming to the forum for the one game "they will never play".


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8/24/11 9:53:33 PM#165

Originally posted by Puremallace

Originally posted by monarc333

The author hit the nail on the head. What about crafting? Yea, we've been told the details about it but wheres the vids on it? Why havent they shown any crafting vids at these gaming conventions? At this point, I find it hard to believe they will release the gam this year. Much to my shagrin. I'm excited about this game but I'm also nervous about the lack of info and playable demos being shown.

Here is the real issue I see with SWToR. Bioware seems to spread out and EA seems to be running the show. I mean honestly how long was the SWToR presentation before they were moving onto another game noone cares about?


SWToR should be there main focus, but it does not seem to be getting the attention it deserves.


By another game no one cares about, do you mean Fifa, or Battlefield?  MMO bias much?


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8/24/11 11:05:28 PM#166

Originally posted by Fdzzaigl

Originally posted by Grotar89



Oh GW2 is no clone. It has more info than TOR which should launch soon,

I'm sure a prophet of your standing could tell us more about the last class in GW2, or the WvW and endgame in general then, or maybe when the game that will destroy everything out there will actually even enter closed beta.

Yeah, no.


Let me step up to the plate.

The last class is a Mesmer. Why? They have stated (if you really want to keep this argument going go ahead and ask me for sources, im just feeling lazy atm) That the last 2 classes (before they released the engineer) were something new and something from GW1. Therefore, since the ritualist/assassin/dervish/paragon werent going to be in GW2 in the first place it's either a Warrior (released) a Necromancer (released) a Ranger ( released) a Monk (healer class which became the guardian) an Elementalist (released) or a Mesmer (unreleased, most popular class in GW1.) So Mesmer = almost certainly that mysterious 8th class

The WvWvW has actually been discussed and part of one of the maps has been released. It's a 4 map battle, with each of the 3 server shards having a "home" map and then a neutral central map where you duke it out, if you capture a different server's portal in the central map you can teleport to their home map and start invading their lands. Umm lets see i believe it looks like this:

That's speculated to be part of the central map, with the shaded areas being a "fog of war" of sorts.

They have also stated that closed beta will be here by the end of the year, so my EXTREMELY rough estimate is probably november.

The only thing i cant answer you about off the top of my head is the end game, maybe someone else will tackle that.

Anyway, on topic, i think any company that goes to any of these game shows and doesn't show something that will keep their players interest for the new few days is just wasting their time, and it seems like that's exactly what BW did.


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8/24/11 11:11:16 PM#167
Originally posted by kalinis

They have actually stated that. ON the dev blog they have answered questions on server populations and stuff and mentioned in everyone of them they wont know till after there stress tests in september. 

They will release holiday 2011 they arent gonna miss that target this game is close they just have to do some stress testing to find out if they have enough servers or not. 

Bioware wants the best launch ever if they can and they want a very smooth one. Im not saying it wont get delayed till 2012 but its highly unlikely. i think me and every body who pays attention figured a thanksgiving or early december release at latest . 

Im hoping for an october one but we can hope cant we.

 Highly unlike statement is just a guess on your part.


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8/24/11 11:33:00 PM#168

I made a Poll just yesterday called SWTOR Supporters and Detractors: [Poll] Have you even read the Full Features List for this game?

Ok. i admit that I didn't go through the 18+ pages for this topic, cause frankly I've done it for other posts, and it all comes down to repeating over and over again the same lame arguments and over and over again people replying to those arguments and I just think we get nowhere like that.

Anyway, my point is in this case: There is a massive load of info already out for the game. Full feature list. Some people read it, some people don't. And there are some people who no matter what is revealed, they basically want a full strategy guide to the game before it's even out.

As others have said, yes, I am already convinced that I'm going to like the game, I already pre-ordered my CE, and I'm waiting on the edge of my seat for a beta invite and the oficial release date for the game. I do not need to know every single aspect of the game before it comes out. I want to be awed as I start my journey through The Old Republic.


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8/24/11 11:58:50 PM#169



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8/25/11 12:33:05 AM#170

Originally posted by Binny45

I'm still disappointed that random people who've only just signed up on the website and haven't spent a dime are getting beta invites over those of us that have been there for years and have already handed over our money.


agree .. 


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8/25/11 3:57:33 AM#171

what else is there to see.. you kids need to chill your baggy's.  the reason it wasnt so exciteing is because the hype has got you kids expecting great even fantastic amazeing awesome things from a game that just doesnt warrant such things..


you have already seen everything.


pvp exploration

space combat


char progression


come on guys you have all seen and played wow. you already know what this games like so why the dissapointment lol.

i was dissapointed a good 2 years ago with this game, i suppose it is finally nice to see that other people are also starting to see what im seeing and that hype is all just a load of propaganda to make you buy the starwars title.

the game is going to suck.. you have already played this title. except the one you played had a wow skin.


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8/25/11 5:16:40 AM#172

generation of whiners as i heard.


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8/25/11 5:19:27 AM#173
Originally posted by Adamai

come on guys you have all seen and played wow. you already know what this games like so why the dissapointment lol.

i was dissapointed a good 2 years ago with this game, i suppose it is finally nice to see that other people are also starting to see what im seeing and that hype is all just a load of propaganda to make you buy the starwars title.

the game is going to suck.. you have already played this title. except the one you played had a wow skin.

 OMG, you are SOOO cool and alternative!!!! You are my hero, how can I be like you???

Let's hate mainstream togetha boy ....hmm hmm


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8/25/11 6:06:26 AM#174

Ever hear the term, " Here's a dime, call someone who cares!"  ?    If you have a problem with reality, please talk to      PEOPLE, ITS JUST A GAME!   Its not like they rewrote the rules of POKER or CHECKERS.  You'd think that by all the comments here that they trashed and rewrote the rules or added new cards to the original  POKEMAN set.  Get a grip.


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8/25/11 6:13:22 AM#175

One last life lesson...... FANTASY > REALITY......This rules is why the divorce rate is so high.


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8/25/11 7:06:41 AM#176

Originally posted by Adamai

what else is there to see.. you kids need to chill your baggy's.  the reason it wasnt so exciteing is because the hype has got you kids expecting great even fantastic amazeing awesome things from a game that just doesnt warrant such things..

i was dissapointed a good 2 years ago with this game, i suppose it is finally nice to see that other people are also starting to see what im seeing and that hype is all just a load of propaganda to make you buy the starwars title.

the game is going to suck.. you have already played this title. except the one you played had a wow skin.


 Well son you seem to be the one needing to chill. Why?

First because you assume that people are disapointed; guess what? Most of the fanbase is very very far from there...

Second because you talk about WoW reskinning. I am sure that this game will have elements present in WoW and btw in the majority of the games from this genre; after all, it is a MMORPG, isn't it?  But will it only be a reskinning? No at all, but that we will see.

However, even if it is only a reskinning of WoW to better graphics and SW theme, sorry to disapoint you son, but that would also be good. WoW is getting older, it has its flaws and problems, but no one can say it is a bad game. One can say that doesn't like it, but saying it is bad is just crap...

I would also like to remind you that I do what I want with my money. If I want to buy crap stuff I do it and thats my business. Plus I don't think that ANYONE won't buy this game just because you had a vision 2 years ago and you think the game is going to be a fail. Sorry to disapoint you but as me you are just another John Doe.

So friend just go jogging or punch a bag or something to release all that tension bro. You seem too stressed out and needing for a chill.


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8/25/11 8:17:02 AM#177

My only disappointment is that I'm not playing the game yet.

Huttball? I think it looks fun. I'm at best ambivalent about PvP and I might try it out. I'm certain there will be things about the game that will annoy me and bring out my inner Star Wars purist, but I'm not going to start firing on all guns because a PvP arena looks fun. As always, to each their own.

What I really want to know is, can you put money on the teams? Forget about betting on the ponies.

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8/25/11 8:19:26 AM#178
Originally posted by tryklon

For a moment there I thought he was disappointed with the game, lol.


Yeah im pretty much disappointed with the lack of new revelations, GIVE ME A LAUNCH DATE ALREADY.... But what the hell, as long as it comes this year fine by me. Although im still expecting a late November release

lol want me to call the jawa invasion lol they can sneak over there like little jawas they are and get the game :D


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8/25/11 10:39:31 AM#179

I have the GUild Wars 2 page on my facebook and for the last 5 days I got some awesome news and footage on it.  It was great  too bad Bioware isn't pouncing on this big mistake imho.  No matter what they do SWTOR will not match Guild Wars 2 ain't no way not from what I've seen.     And it's F2P   man  it's gonna be awesome.


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8/25/11 11:24:38 AM#180

Originally posted by gw1228

I have the GUild Wars 2 page on my facebook and for the last 5 days I got some awesome news and footage on it.  It was great  too bad Bioware isn't pouncing on this big mistake imho.  No matter what they do SWTOR will not match Guild Wars 2 ain't no way not from what I've seen.     And it's F2P   man  it's gonna be awesome.


You GW2 fanboys are really obsessed with SWTOR, aren't you? Always coming to SWTOR topics talking about how superior GW2 will be and so.. is that a way to increase your self-confidence in the game? Or are you affraid of SWTOR success?  I just can't figure it out..

Just for you information not everyone is desperate to get "awesome news and footage" everyday. I just want the game properly finished and ready to play. All the rest is quite dispensable. All that info sometimes even pises me off because I know I still have to wait...

GW2 is not f2p; it is b2p and to be honest I am very curious to see how often it will get expansions and at what cost.  

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