Originally posted by Wizardry

 

The animation is ok for looking proper,but it has very little realism as it looks to be one dimensional.There is nothing that moves on the character ,example clothing moving or breathing nothing realistic.Also the animation looks blocky when turning ,it only looks normal when moving in a straight line.

 

 The character models and animations just look off to me. I think that is what bugs me the most. I have to agree with a lot of people that the environments look pretty darn good.

How come they didn't use motion capture for their animations, like AoC did and other games such as Assassins Creed.

Originally posted by DJJazzy

Originally posted by Wizardry

 

The animation is ok for looking proper,but it has very little realism as it looks to be one dimensional.There is nothing that moves on the character ,example clothing moving or breathing nothing realistic.Also the animation looks blocky when turning ,it only looks normal when moving in a straight line.

 

 The character models and animations just look off to me. I think that is what bugs me the most. I have to agree with a lot of people that the environments look pretty darn good.

How come they didn't use motion capture for their animations, like AoC did and other games such as Assassins Creed.

They did.

Originally posted by Atlan99

Originally posted by DJJazzy

Originally posted by Wizardry

 

The animation is ok for looking proper,but it has very little realism as it looks to be one dimensional.There is nothing that moves on the character ,example clothing moving or breathing nothing realistic.Also the animation looks blocky when turning ,it only looks normal when moving in a straight line.

 

 The character models and animations just look off to me. I think that is what bugs me the most. I have to agree with a lot of people that the environments look pretty darn good.

How come they didn't use motion capture for their animations, like AoC did and other games such as Assassins Creed.

They did.

 Hmm, didn't look like it. Oh well.

Originally posted by DJJazzy

Originally posted by Atlan99

Originally posted by DJJazzy

Originally posted by Wizardry

 

The animation is ok for looking proper,but it has very little realism as it looks to be one dimensional.There is nothing that moves on the character ,example clothing moving or breathing nothing realistic.Also the animation looks blocky when turning ,it only looks normal when moving in a straight line.

 

 The character models and animations just look off to me. I think that is what bugs me the most. I have to agree with a lot of people that the environments look pretty darn good.

How come they didn't use motion capture for their animations, like AoC did and other games such as Assassins Creed.

They did.

 Hmm, didn't look like it. Oh well.

http://www.swtor.com/news/news-article/20110318

It's looking AWESOME :)

OH its 200 hrs per class story. If u do empire for one and republic for another character they have 0 quests the same. While a trooper and jedi may share some things like planetary quests not sure how much gameply per class story same side may be same. 

Then u have planetary stories for the 17 major planets and the minor ones which are numerous plus one pve planet thats all story at end game. This game has plenty to do as far as class story. They say one part of a class story is more then they had in mass effect altogether.

As for graphics having played aoc lotro and wow i like wows the best. Forsaken world is prettier then all 3 of them together. Tor graphics look awesome and every review i read since biggining of the season of game shows says graphics are awesome.

So say what u will based on camcorder recordings and screen shots not being real but the proof is in what people who have actually played it say and every review ive read loves them. 

Originally posted by keithian

After watching the latest videos, I am convinced that Bioware has improved the environments 100% from just a year ago, including the animations. When I watch the first 30-45 seconds of the video below and focus on the environments, there is not one game out there that matches it in my opinion. Very detailed and perfect for the Star Wars Universe we are looking for.  I'm not talking about the game play which I think has to show case two of the worst players in MMO history lol, just the enviroments. Now I haven't tried FInal Fantasy because I knew what a disaster that was going to be, but even if the artistry is not your thing the ambiance they have created is top notch...especially considering this is not the final build.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRnXws_37xs&hd=1

 

Updated:

This video is easier on the eyes because a turd isn't playing it lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxMbI30KKJ0

I guess u never played Rift or EVE Online on high end graphics. SWTOR looks like Hello Kitty online compared to this games, also compared to GW 2 ...

I can wait to hear how disapointed fans will be of this game. I will be here with other veteran mmorpgers, to tell. "NO WAI?!!"

i agree mavrick and i read a review on torwars by a fan not a game writer he loved the graphics said they were awesome.

everythng ive read or seen about tor the graphics look awesome only in the ones where they are hand held cameras do the graphics look iffy. Thats because its a hand held camera.

IM sorry i will listen to people who play the game at game conventions saying how good the graphics look and not the haters on here who just want tor to fail for there own petty reasons.

First off i never want any game to fail. The more games that succeed not matter sandbox, themepark or sub or free 2 play or buy to play is good for gamers.

The more games are a success the better it is for us as gamers cause in the end it means more choices and more diversity to choose from.

Originally posted by ioryadragon

I can wait to hear how disapointed fans will be of this game. I will be here with other veteran mmorpgers, to tell. "NO WAI?!!"

 

 

I think allot of the naysayers will be pleasantly surprised by ToR.

Originally posted by MMO.Maverick

Originally posted by ioryadragon

I can wait to hear how disapointed fans will be of this game. I will be here with other veteran mmorpgers, to tell. "NO WAI?!!"

Gloating for something as petty and simple as a game to fail and wanting others not enjoy a game is kind of... I don't know, silly, don't you think? Not something that grown up, well balanced adults should do?

Think it has something to do with this genre, how few and far between AAA games can be, and when one's done especially well, we've had years of almost nothing but clones of that successful game - so of course, we don't want the next big one to be one we personally consider the worst, in terms of our own preferences.  From what I can tell, the genre is finally moving forward, but TOR has the potential to send the genre reeling backwards again, if it does too well.

Even if TOR turns out to be terrible, you've got all these casual players who'll only try one MMO after WoW, and if all the hype and advertising succeeds, it could reach that critical mass, where it'll keep growing and growing, as the next standard household name of an MMO that everyone knows about.

I'd personally hate seeing it at the top of the MMO heap, since the more I've learned about it, the more it just sounds terrible to me.  Terrible enough that even if I don't want to see it "fail" per se, I just don't want to see it at the top, but I do think it deserves to fail.

Artstyle + graphics > Artstyle > graphics

This means i like the look of SWTOR a lot [and i mean A LOT] more than AoC.

However i also like the look of GW2 a lot more than SWTOR.

Don't know what people wan't from TOR looks, imo it is pretty good. Hard to expect from MMO Witcher-2-like graphics [when maxed]

Originally posted by MMO.Maverick

Originally posted by ioryadragon

I can wait to hear how disapointed fans will be of this game. I will be here with other veteran mmorpgers, to tell. "NO WAI?!!"

Gloating for something as petty and simple as a game to fail and wanting others not enjoy a game is kind of... I don't know, silly, don't you think? Not something that grown up, well balanced adults should do?

What a lot of people don't realize is that a MMO failure is a big hit to the whole genre, no matter if that particular player likes the game or not.  Whenever a game succeeds, the whole MMO landscape benefits.

There will always be the big games like WoW.  These, in the long run, bring players to the genre that might have not came in the first place.  Many players start off with easier games like WoW and then try other things.  How much SWTOR will resemble WoW remains to be seen, but wishing it to fail because you don't like it is, I agree, pretty silly.

But on topic.  I'm ok with the graphics.  I'll have to wait until I play it to really form an opinion.

SWTOR graphicly "looks pretty good" is a fair statement. I see it as very pastel, and textureless(somewhat overstated). I think this is intened, as masses of people with lower end pc's will be able to play it.  If the game is fun to play, this will not matter to those enjoying it. People with higher end systems want real world realism, of course.  I'm still on the fence, and need to learn more about the game.

Originally posted by LizardEgypt

Too bad the Warrior class' mana stuff is called RAGE. How creative is Bioware these days, eh?

 But that's only fitting isn't it? Seeing as everything the Sith do is driven by rage.

First, the video is a cam version. By that we do not see the real graphics.

By the looks on the SS this game look like WoW in space with just a little better graphics.

TERA, here we talk some of the best graphics for an MMO out there.

SWG even look better in design and animations... and that game is how many years old? 150?

In my eyes this look waaaay too silly.

Disney MMO with child friendly fighting effects and silly superhero character design. Why not add cute pink clouds and little cats jumping around... oh how cute!!!

Originally posted by ShredderSE

SWG even look better in design and animations... and that game is how many years old? 150?

In my eyes this look waaaay too silly.

Disney MMO with child friendly fighting effects and silly superhero character design. Why not add cute pink clouds and little cats jumping around... oh how cute!!!

You seem to be really offended. OP said some of the best, he didn't say the only best so there is a big difference. it is a matter of opinion and how can you disprove an opinion? Bill from this site thinks new Wildstar looks simply gorgeous are you going to tell him too that he is wrong and Wildstar is nothing but updates version of WOW? i love the way WOW looks; i don't like the way Tera looks, it is all matter of taste.

Originally posted by Chilliesauce

Originally posted by ShredderSE

SWG even look better in design and animations... and that game is how many years old? 150?

In my eyes this look waaaay too silly.

Disney MMO with child friendly fighting effects and silly superhero character design. Why not add cute pink clouds and little cats jumping around... oh how cute!!!

You seem to be really offended. OP said some of the best, he didn't say the only best so there is a big difference. it is a matter of opinion and how can you disprove an opinion? Bill from this site thinks new Wildstar looks simply gorgeous are you going to tell him too that he is wrong and Wildstar is nothing but updates version of WOW? i love the way WOW looks; i don't like the way Tera looks, it is all matter of taste.

This game would look so much better if they picked Planetside 2 design / art / look. Not this WoWish design.

It's sad that so many new MMO trying to look like WoW and think that it will be epic...Wildstar also have a very WoWish look on the design...

I think SWG art style captured more of the Star Wars feel to me but, this game looks good, it looks like KOTOR, you cant mistake that when you see it you think KOTOR

Originally posted by ShredderSE

Originally posted by Chilliesauce

Originally posted by ShredderSE

SWG even look better in design and animations... and that game is how many years old? 150?

In my eyes this look waaaay too silly.

Disney MMO with child friendly fighting effects and silly superhero character design. Why not add cute pink clouds and little cats jumping around... oh how cute!!!

You seem to be really offended. OP said some of the best, he didn't say the only best so there is a big difference. it is a matter of opinion and how can you disprove an opinion? Bill from this site thinks new Wildstar looks simply gorgeous are you going to tell him too that he is wrong and Wildstar is nothing but updates version of WOW? i love the way WOW looks; i don't like the way Tera looks, it is all matter of taste.

This game would look so much better if they picked Planetside 2 design / art / look. Not this WoWish design.

It's sad that so many new MMO trying to look like WoW and think that it will be epic...Wildstar also have a very WoWish look on the design...

Sorry SWTOR looks nothing like WOW,i don't want to prove you wrong,  like i said it is matter of opinion. When i first saw SWTOR i knew it is following same artstyle as KOTOR.  Not even once i thought 'hey it looks like WOW' not to this day.